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Munich (MUC): Jetways Not Attached To Terminal?  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7675 times:

This photo of Munich Airport caught my attention:

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How do these "buildingless jetways" work? I have never seen an airport with anything like this.

Any feedback would be appreciated.


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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3023 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7666 times:

these are easy deboarding jetways allowing to deboard the plane like at a finger but at the end there waits a bus and not the terminal.

User currently offlinePacifica From Canada, joined May 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7655 times:

Yep. You board and deplane like at the regular terminal, but then you go down a set of stairs or escalator a bus waiting to take you to the terminal. I'm pretty sure these remote jetways are also used at LAX, not sure if any other airports use them.

User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7612 times:

actually, they are not used for deboarding only but for boarding as well... you get into the bus like with every other remote stand, the bus brings you to the little building connected to each jetway (those buildings basically contain a few escalators and nothing else), you go up the escalator and through the jetway into the plane... happened to me quite often when leaving from MUC on a charter carrier....


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7557 times:

Thanks for all the feedback. I'd like to try them someday!


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7653 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

I think that they are great, especially if it's raining or snowing outside. Nothing worse then sitting on the stairs waiting to board in the middle of a downpour.


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User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7512 times:

Actually reminds me of LA. They have hard stands with jet bridges where passengers are bussed to the terminal facility.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7486 times:

It looks as if they took two gates at the main terminal and built two departure lounge buildings where the plane would have parked. Buses drive up to those buildings and take you to the remote stands.

Between the larger number of remote stands than terminal gates and the long layout of the terminal, that must be one hell of an airport to connect in (but I guess it's not a hub, is it?)



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7469 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
(but I guess it's not a hub, is it?)

MUC is the 7th busiest airport in Europe and is a major hub for LH.

In many cases, it offers better connections to Central and Eastern Europe than FRA does.

Lack of expansion capability in FRA forced LH to expand elsewhere and they chose MUC which opened only in 1992 replacing the old Munich-Riem airport.



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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8657 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7409 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Between the larger number of remote stands than terminal gates and the long layout of the terminal, that must be one hell of an airport to connect in (but I guess it's not a hub, is it?)

To me personally it is the best airport in Europe to connect. You can connect between flights at MUC in as little as 30 minutes. It's not only a very efficient airport, it's also a very easy airport to use. I love it.


User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7312 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Between the larger number of remote stands than terminal gates and the long layout of the terminal, that must be one hell of an airport to connect in (but I guess it's not a hub, is it?)

well, what you see on this photo is terminal 1, which is not a hub and used mainly for charter, low-cost and foreign carriers (everything but Star Alliance, basically). Terminal 2 is located back-to-back on the other side and has a completely different layout. As discribed above it's a major hub for LH and *A.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
It looks as if they took two gates at the main terminal and built two departure lounge buildings where the plane would have parked. Buses drive up to those buildings and take you to the remote stands.

true, but only in parts. Actually, every gate you see on the photo also has a staircase down to the road where the busses pass by and can pick up passengers. So every gate has two numbers and two entrances - one leading to the jetway, one to the staircase. At busy times it's (or was at least, before LH moved to T2) actually more likely to be bussed out than to board via the jetway on the terminal.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7308 times:

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 10):
well, what you see on this photo is terminal 1, which is not a hub and used mainly for charter, low-cost and foreign carriers (everything but Star Alliance, basically). Terminal 2 is located back-to-back on the other side and has a completely different layout. As discribed above it's a major hub for LH and *A.

That was clear once it was explained this was an LH hub. I assumed that this was only one terminal being shown, and generally looking at the jets parked there, they were all sorts of airlines but only a couple LH. But there is an LH 343 parked at one remote stand, so you do get some connections from there it would seem.



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3023 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7234 times:

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 3):
actually, they are not used for deboarding only but for boarding as well... you get into the bus like with every other remote stand, the bus brings you to the little building connected to each jetway (those buildings basically contain a few escalators and nothing else), you go up the escalator and through the jetway into the plane... happened to me quite often when leaving from MUC on a charter carrier....

that's not correct. in the last three months we used this jetbridges two times. all flights were with DI.


User currently offlineMUCFLYER From Germany, joined May 2004, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7137 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 11):
I assumed that this was only one terminal being shown, and generally looking at the jets parked there, they were all sorts of airlines but only a couple LH. But there is an LH 343 parked at one remote stand, so you do get some connections from there it would seem.

Lufthansa use the remote apron of terminal 1 just for temporarly 'storage parking' of their planes...


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5811 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6951 times:

On seeing the remote jetways in the pic my first impression was that they were linked to the terminals by a tunnel or tunnels. Now there's an idea for future airport planners!

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8657 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6349 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 14):
On seeing the remote jetways in the pic my first impression was that they were linked to the terminals by a tunnel or tunnels. Now there's an idea for future airport planners!

Why walk that far when you can take a 3 minutes bus ride? These remote stands at MUC are actually quite efficient, all things considered. I've used remote stands are other hubs like FRA, LHR, AMS, and other than LHR, I was able to transfer between flights in less than 1 hour. Typically these remote gates are used by smaller regional aircraft which don't take a lot of time to boad/deplane and all passengers fit into only 1 bus. But unlike remote stands at other airports, in MUC the passengers are not exposed to the elemants. It a briliant way to add gates to a terminal without the enormous cost of expanding a terminal building.


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6319 times:

Used this remote jet ways once in MUC - in terrible weather, high winds and pouring rain, and guess what, not a single passenger had a drop of rain on them. They work like a dream! Excellent design!

The buses almost enter the jet way structure, so you are effectively continuously "indoors"...



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User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6202 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 14):
On seeing the remote jetways in the pic my first impression was that they were linked to the terminals by a tunnel or tunnels. Now there's an idea for future airport planners!

GVA has had this for years....


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

September 2005:
MUC Question (pic) (by USADreamliner Jan 5 2006 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 997 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5730 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Between the larger number of remote stands than terminal gates and the long layout of the terminal, that must be one hell of an airport to connect in (but I guess it's not a hub, is it?)

Actually I find it very nice and efficient to connect in and prefer it over FRA. Last august, I flew SLC-ORD-MUC-BRE and the connection in MUC was very nice. I prefer it to ORD, or some of the other major airports.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 17):
GVA has had this for years....

GVA is a bit different though. It has three satellites, two of which are equipped with three jetways each and these three satellites are connected to the main terminal by an underground tunnel.

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User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

Does anybody have specific info's about Lufthansa Cityline CRJ's currently operating out of a jetway to the main terminal or to one of these remote stands?

User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

i belive IAD has them as well.

User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4588 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12):
Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 3):actually, they are not used for deboarding only but for boarding as well... you get into the bus like with every other remote stand, the bus brings you to the little building connected to each jetway (those buildings basically contain a few escalators and nothing else), you go up the escalator and through the jetway into the plane... happened to me quite often when leaving from MUC on a charter carrier....
that's not correct. in the last three months we used this jetbridges two times. all flights were with DI.

so what's wrong with what I said? you used the jetbridges when flying DI, I used them when on SunExpress or HapagFly....?  Confused



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Is there a map with gate numbers for those jetways in MUC and GVA?


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25 Justman : All CRJ´s and the rest of regional aircraft (DHC-8, ERJ, Avro/BAe) at T2 operate from remote stands. Except from Swiss Avro´s, they park directly a
26 NW747-400 : FRA also has these remote stands. I deplaned from a DL 763 on a remote stand there a few weeks ago.
27 Oakjam : I deplaned on these from SFO to MUC. MUC has a very nice Airport on the interior and easy to use. People are friendly also if you have a question. The
28 SailorOrion : MUC's jetways (be it T1, T2 or remote) are not capable of "docking" with CRJs from what I know. The CRJs are "bussed" the conventional way. That's wh
29 Connector4you : Thanks Justman Just curious if there's any other large airport out there that currently have regional jets/turboprops loading/unloading pax directly
30 ACDC8 : I believe that ORD has this in place. Also, not a large airport, but YLW uses jetways for Dash 8's and CRJ's on a regular basis.
31 Post contains links Teme82 : In HEL T1 you can park some turboprops on the jetways. When the terminal was opened there were Finnair's MD-11, DC9 and ATR-72-201 at the domestic jet
32 NW747-400 : This ATR can not be connected to a jetway in that position and board conventionally. The way the airplane is parked, the jetway would connect to the
33 Post contains links and images Teme82 : Incorrect! AY's ATR's now Aero's has passenger door on the front I know since I've been in one Here's proof for you : http://www.airliners.net/open.f
34 NYC2theworld : I believe some gates in the B Terminal at IAH (some are boarded by bus), EWR does it at Terminal C, and since I was flying from EWR to PIT on a regio
35 MUCflieger : I boarded an LH Avro last friday from the terminal (gate G18) . Flight was MUC-TLS
36 SailorOrion : The BAe 146/Avros are compatible with the jetways in T1 and T2. Those types board regularly via jetways. SailorOrion
37 Post contains images Leezyjet : Seems like a good idea, but it must be awfully expensive to build and maintain those remote jetbridges. It would be much cheaper and just as efficient
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