EGNRA380 From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 13 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7094 times:
Have just been browsing the airbus route proving mini site and it is states that "halfway through the route proving lufthansa announces it is buying more a380's."
Haven't seen reference to this anywhere else - and dont know if this is their options/new aircraft.
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6716 posts, RR: 65 Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7062 times:
On today's ATW Online:
According to a source close to the airline, LH has up to 18 A380 destinations on the radar and plans to select initial gateways one year before putting the aircraft into service.
Wow! How many frames would they need to serve 18 destinations? I guess it would depend on frequency but I assume that routes suitable for an A380 wouldn't only have one service a week.
This would certainly point to further LH orders for the A380.
According to an article in atwonline LH has upto 18 A380 destinations on the radar. If they'd go ahead with all 18 of them on a daily basis with the majority of the roundtrips taking longer then 24 hours ( ie. NRT, HKG, SIN, BKK, PEK, PVG, CPT, JNB, LAX, SFO,...) they'll need a lot more then the initial order for 15.
from the article,
According to a source close to the airline, LH has up to 18 A380 destinations on the radar and plans to select initial gateways one year before putting the aircraft into service. Johannesburg and Cape Town are among cities under consideration.
edited: I see that PM was quicker with posting the link.
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6828 times:
Quoting ATW Online (Reply 1): LH has up to 18 A380 destinations on the radar
The obvious meaning is that 18 LH destinations are being evaluated as to whether the 747-8 or the WhaleJet makes the most business sense.
With 15 WhaleJets plus 20 747-8s replacing 30 747-400s, it is not at all clear that LH will be exercising options for either anytime soon. I believe the 747-8 order probably forclosed the exercise of WhaleJet options and the 747-8 options were taken only as a contingency in case Airbus fail completely to deliver the WhaleJets. Time will tell.
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4111 posts, RR: 39 Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6790 times:
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6): I believe the 747-8 order probably forclosed the exercise of WhaleJet options and the 747-8 options were taken only as a contingency in case Airbus fail completely to deliver the WhaleJets. Time will tell.
Last week´s comments from Mr. Mayrhuber clearly point towards a follow-on order from LH for the A380 and indicate that the B747-800 order for 20 firm is likely not to remain at 20 in the long-term. BTW, what is the "WhaleJet"?? Never heard that one before. Are you refering to the A380?
Tom_eddf From Germany, joined Apr 2000, 449 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6653 times:
Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9): WhaleJet stands for A380 like Jumbo for B747 or Jumbolino for BAe146
... but the term "WhaleJet" is only used by a select number of people on select forums on the internet. Media and most people I know commonly refer to the A380 as the "superjumbo".
Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2870 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6618 times:
Quoting Tom_eddf (Reply 14): ... but the term "WhaleJet" is only used by a select number of people on select forums on the internet. Media and most people I know commonly refer to the A380 as the "superjumbo".
the time will show which term we'll use for the A380 The plane is still in its infancy
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 70 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6610 times:
Lufthansa is currently the forth largest A380 customer with 15 frames on orders. Previously they were the second largest customer, but have since been over taken by Qantas and Singapore Airlines.
Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2870 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6567 times:
Another question is what are they going to do with their current fleet of B747 or A343/6 ? Will they keep them and just increase the frequency on several routes or what?
I could imagine to see some B747's flying as LH Cargo in 2012-2015
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 70 Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6543 times:
Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 17): Another question is what are they going to do with their current fleet of B747 or A343/6 ? Will they keep them and just increase the frequency on several routes or what?
I could imagine to see some B747's flying as LH Cargo in 2012-2015
I have always wondered if LH has the option of converting it's 20 firm and 20 options for the B748i into the freighter model?
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3254 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6544 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 16): Lufthansa is currently the forth largest A380 customer with 15 frames on orders. Previously they were the second largest customer, but have since been over taken by Qantas and Singapore Airlines.
They'd better do it soon or they'll be down to 5th (when BA orders 20 + 20!)
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3254 posts, RR: 10 Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6458 times:
Quoting EGNRA380 (Thread starter): Have just been browsing the airbus route proving mini site and it is states that "halfway through the route proving lufthansa announces it is buying more a380's."
Whereabouts does it say that I'm struggling to find it
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7771 posts, RR: 26 Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6429 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 18):
Does anyone know if they is likely to happen?
Lufthansa Cargo is a separate company, which does not mean that they could eventually take over slots if required.
LHCargo is not making any investments at the moment as there is a silly night curfew attached to the new runway expansion at FRA. If that night curfew is actually imposed, the existance of LH Cargo in its present form is threatened.
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25 Flying-Tiger: Might be one argument of several. I rather guess that they are very reluctant to pay high(est) prices now on top of the cycle for new equipment, and
26 PanHAM: That's not the way a blue chip company is run. LCAG is in air cargo and not in gambling. Fact is that they have deferred all investments, including i
27 SAOAP: I heard MEX and GRU were being studied too... Maybe ORD. That would leave 1 gateway unacounted for.
28 Scouseflyer: Agreed the 748F seems to be the right lane and the right time and the right price.
29 PM: I assume it's the FRA-TXL shuttle to replace - at last - the A300s!
30 Columba: Lufthansa has always pointed out that their biggest rivals are the Gulf carriers such as EK and that they can only grow on long haul routes. EK will
31 Columba: but I doubt a that there still will be a FRA-TXL shuttle in 4 years. FRA-BER on the other hand will likely see at least one A330 per day together wit
32 PanHAM: 'Ya never know in Berlin. May be BBI turns into a pink elephant? Whatevere, I challenge the 2011 opening date for BBI. As to the potential 380 destin
33 GBan: " target=_blank>http://www.google.nl/search?hl=en&q=...+a380 Hey, the hit count is only 900.000 vs 2.000 and you are already drawing conclusions...
34 TommyBP251b: I guess CGN will be the winner in this case.
35 CXfirst: This is a huge increase in VLA, but it might happen. They can't really replace the A343/6 with 747 and A380's (maybe A346, but those are so new), so
36 PanHAM: with a 100% night curfew there will be no winners, only losers. The all important connectivity between freighter and passenger aircraft cannot be mai
37 Slz396: Still remember the press conference where John Leahy said customers showed great satisfaction with the A380 by ordering more, and then specifically me
39 Scouseflyer: They'd have an even better show if Ek chose to buy 100 copies of the XWb too!
40 Asturias: Not really. The 380 is sometimes called Super-Jumbo in the general news, but the silly whale nickname is really only known to a.net nerds. It's just
41 Flyorski: I also would not be surprised if EK orders the A350...... The only way boeing could blow this would be if they announced a 737/757 replacement, with
43 Keesje: the Airbus annual press conference on 17 January in Paris.
44 Zvezda: Thanks Keesje. That brackets when LH might have exercised WhaleJet options, if they have. If could not have been before 6 Dec 2006, when LH ordered th
45 Slz396: Thank you; I couldn't find the date, but luckily there are always members with an eye for details like these. What theory? The one you came up with (
46 Zvezda: That is a very optimistic (to put it generously) paraphrase of what Mayrhuber actually said. All he said was that LH have placed follow-on orders to
47 Qazar: Strong candidates for the A380 on the LH network: 1. JFK 2. EWR 3. IAD 4. ORD 5. LAX 6. SFO 7. MIA 8. BOM 9. NRT 10. PVG 11. PEK 12. HKG 13. BKK 14. S
48 Jfk777: Singapore and Shanghai are some the A380 will se in Lufthansa colors. Boston is also missing, Sao Paulo & J'berg are another pair missing.
49 GBan: Why do you assume that is a reference to Mayrhuber saying that LH have placed follow-on orders to prior models?
50 GBan: Another LH comment from Süddeutsche Zeitung (German): http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/artikel/824/107717/ Nun, 60000 Flugkilometer und 65 Flugstu
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