According to an article in atwonline LH has upto 18 A380 destinations on the radar. If they'd go ahead with all 18 of them on a daily basis with the majority of the roundtrips taking longer then 24 hours ( ie. NRT, HKG, SIN, BKK, PEK, PVG, CPT, JNB, LAX, SFO,...) they'll need a lot more then the initial order for 15.
from the article,
According to a source close to the airline, LH has up to 18 A380 destinations on the radar and plans to select initial gateways one year before putting the aircraft into service. Johannesburg and Cape Town are among cities under consideration.
edited: I see that PM was quicker with posting the link.
The obvious meaning is that 18 LH destinations are being evaluated as to whether the 747-8 or the WhaleJet makes the most business sense.
With 15 WhaleJets plus 20 747-8s replacing 30 747-400s, it is not at all clear that LH will be exercising options for either anytime soon. I believe the 747-8 order probably forclosed the exercise of WhaleJet options and the 747-8 options were taken only as a contingency in case Airbus fail completely to deliver the WhaleJets. Time will tell.
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4183 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8634 times:
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6): I believe the 747-8 order probably forclosed the exercise of WhaleJet options and the 747-8 options were taken only as a contingency in case Airbus fail completely to deliver the WhaleJets. Time will tell.
Last week´s comments from Mr. Mayrhuber clearly point towards a follow-on order from LH for the A380 and indicate that the B747-800 order for 20 firm is likely not to remain at 20 in the long-term. BTW, what is the "WhaleJet"?? Never heard that one before. Are you refering to the A380?
Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 3122 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8462 times:
Quoting Tom_eddf (Reply 14): ... but the term "WhaleJet" is only used by a select number of people on select forums on the internet. Media and most people I know commonly refer to the A380 as the "superjumbo".
the time will show which term we'll use for the A380 The plane is still in its infancy
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3440 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8388 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 16): Lufthansa is currently the forth largest A380 customer with 15 frames on orders. Previously they were the second largest customer, but have since been over taken by Qantas and Singapore Airlines.
They'd better do it soon or they'll be down to 5th (when BA orders 20 + 20!)
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 10401 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8273 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 18):
Does anyone know if they is likely to happen?
Lufthansa Cargo is a separate company, which does not mean that they could eventually take over slots if required.
LHCargo is not making any investments at the moment as there is a silly night curfew attached to the new runway expansion at FRA. If that night curfew is actually imposed, the existance of LH Cargo in its present form is threatened.
GDL go to hell
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