Deaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1403 posts, RR: 2 Posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2953 times:
Jesus..... this has to be the biggest screw up by an airline... our own inflight magazine says that the "brand new 777 - 200 ER's are rolling off the line at seattle!
comments!
** Due thanks to Tsk911 for the pictures and airliners-india.net**
nitin
I want every single airport and airplane in India to be on A.net!
MotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2558 posts, RR: 11 Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2615 times:
No-one will have noticed due the failure of the Indian Cricket Team at the 2007 World Cup. Probably why the proof reader missed it, too much important cricket to watch!
YOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4704 posts, RR: 22 Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2471 times:
Quoting Jammin (Reply 5): it'll fly to umreeka, don't worry
hahahah that was spot on!
It's not THAT big a deal. It's just a few letters and I would be surprised if most people - even on A.net - could give a detailed rundown of the differences between the two. That said it does smack of amateurism.
I would be willing to wager that every single airline has mistakes on its website and corporate literature. I seem to recall seeing Shaheen Air's site saying that they have "one of the youngest fleets in the world" that kind of thing aka pure plagiarized bullshit marketing is more of a concern to me than an oversight.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 71 Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2401 times:
Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1316 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2321 times:
There was a post some time ago about a very highly respected Asian airline talking about its new 777-300ERs and how wonderful they are ... the picture illustrating the article was an A350. Mistakes happen (unfortunately), especially when the copy is written by an agency that 1) is not directly related to the airline and 2) probably knows less about aviation than I do about Hindi.
I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
AKLDELNonstop From New Zealand, joined Apr 2006, 300 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2277 times:
Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 4): No-one will have noticed due the failure of the Indian Cricket Team at the 2007 World Cup. Probably why the proof reader missed it, too much important cricket to watch!
You are referring to the BCCI team right. I dont think there was a team representing India at the CWC.
Signs of improvement mate! Atleast they got the manufacturer's name right. I understand that there can be mistakes but AI seem to be getting too consistent at doing things wrong.
Vtnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2234 times:
Even more funny is the assertion that Air India is to emerge as a "World Class Airline". Kind of accepting the fact that they are not currently, right!!
VT-NYC
First Flight, PA001 DEL-FRA-LHR-JFK; Dream- JFK-COK on a B6 787
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 20630 posts, RR: 62 Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2172 times:
Quoting Brenintw (Reply 8): the picture illustrating the article was an A350
Yup, and if it's who I think you are talking about, their interior cabin shots were of an A380 mockup...
A hint: their name rhymes with Flingapore Hairlines.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
SM777 From India, joined Nov 2003, 132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2059 times:
If you are surprised with that bloomer, hear this one :
I was on flight IC 187 from DEL to BHX via ATQ a few months back, and was in J class.
The flight was operated using a 777, one of the old ex-UA leased Aircraft ( VT -AIL)
The safety card in the seat pocket was that of a 747-400 !!!
Obviously I knew I was sitting in a 777. I called the steward, an ageing punjabi gentleman, and asked him what aircraft we were sitting in. He proudly proclaimed that we were sitting in a "new generation" triple seven. I asked him if he was sure. He replied "100% sure saar". His face fell right to the floor when I showed him the safety card and said "this is a serious safety violation, I don't know what the DGCA will do if they come to know about it"........he quickly apologized and took it away, returning a while later with a 777 safety card.
Well, if AI's staff dont know the difference between a 777 and 747, I hope their Engineers and pilots do !!
God help AI and people who make the mistake of flying with them.
Sammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1683 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2001 times:
Was it the only card that was wrong? Did your neighboring seats have 744 cards too? The FA obviously knew what type of aircraft it was so it seems that a 744 card got mixed in with the 777 cards. Big deal, mistakes happen, there are other ways to find the exits.
BrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3739 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1815 times:
Quoting SM777 (Reply 13):
Obviously I knew I was sitting in a 777. I called the steward, an ageing punjabi gentleman, and asked him what aircraft we were sitting in. He proudly proclaimed that we were sitting in a "new generation" triple seven. I asked him if he was sure. He replied "100% sure saar".
The safety cards are not usualy placed in seat pockets by cabin crews, but rather cleaning staff. The cabin crew were 100% sure of what aircraft they were on, so whats the problem? Im sure the pilots were sure of what aircraft they were on.
Mistakes like this happen at all airlines, and there are numerous threads documenting this. Cards from 747 on 757, 767 on 330. It happens, but is not indicitive of an airlines safety standards.
Brian.
Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2834 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 1): Boy it seems that AI's marketing is out of sync...with the rest of the company. Doesn't anyone check their facts?
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 1): Well, this AI after all, the aviation equivalent of the Benny Hill show, dysfunction and disinformation at it's very best.
As pointed out by others in this thread, such mistakes happen quite often, with the best of airlines.....just because we knowledgeable a.nutters know a lot more than the general public, doesn'tt mean anything....to the average pax, ER / LR means absolutely nothing....still, not a reason to forgive the culprit.....
Quoting Brenintw (Reply 8): There was a post some time ago about a very highly respected Asian airline talking about its new 777-300ERs and how wonderful they are ... the picture illustrating the article was an A350. Mistakes happen (unfortunately), especially when the copy is written by an agency that 1) is not directly related to the airline and 2) probably knows less about aviation than I do about Hindi.
I do recall the condescending remarks on this forum, when this particular incident was discussed......how such mistakes happen, so on and so forth......
Quoting SM777 (Reply 13): Obviously I knew I was sitting in a 777. I called the steward, an ageing punjabi gentleman, and asked him what aircraft we were sitting in. He proudly proclaimed that we were sitting in a "new generation" triple seven. I asked him if he was sure. He replied "100% sure saar". His face fell right to the floor when I showed him the safety card and said "this is a serious safety violation, I don't know what the DGCA will do if they come to know about it"........he quickly apologized and took it away, returning a while later with a 777 safety card.
Now, this is certainly more serious and quite unpardonable.....a safety card is kept in the plane for a certain purpose.....
Quoting SM777 (Reply 13): Well, if AI's staff dont know the difference between a 777 and 747, I hope their Engineers and pilots do !!
Pointless observation.....you asked the FA a question and he answered you accurately....how was he to know that you had a faulty safety card in your seat pocket????
Rest assured that the pilots and engineers know their job.....do you have any information to prove otherwise....?
Mtsubshe From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1591 times:
after all it is AIR INDIA,what else can you expect from them
BrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3739 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1530 times:
Quoting Mtsubshe (Reply 19): after all it is AIR INDIA,what else can you expect from them
Im sorry, but what exactly do you mean by this? I dont notice their jets falling out of the sky, which, lets face it is the important thing. If you know anything to the contary I suggest that you approach the FAA, etc. If you are basing these comments on hearsay and other gossip you may have seen on these boards, I would stay quiet. AI;s cbins and service may not be up to teh cutting edge SQ standard, but AI knows its target market, and provides an appropriate service. Ever seen an AI 747/777 with a low load factor? Neither have I.
Ive never flown with AI, but I would, should they be flying a suitable route at a suitable fare.
Brian.
Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
Mtsubshe From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1427 times:
it is good that you never flown on AIR INDIA, especially on long haul sectors, you have to jump a lot of hurdles to get to the bathroom in the rear, WHY? because you could see a lot of people ( mostly women) sleeping on the floor
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11361 posts, RR: 40 Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1395 times:
According to the Business Standard newspaper, the combined new airline is expected to be Air Indian, rather than Air India and apparently, the maharajah is expected to stay.
So, that seems to indicate that they will introduce a new combined livery, to replace the one just launched on the new 777-200LR; they could, of course, stick and "N" at the end of the AIR INDIA on the fuselage, but that would be a bit cheap!
The thing that amazes me is, that the fleet deals of the two airlines were subject to intense govt scrutiny - backwards and forwards; we know how long this took, yet within a few months of AI Express ordering 738s and IC ordering A320s, the govt announced a merger of the two carriers. What's going to happen now?
Well, for one thing, I'm going to have to get a shot of that 777-200LR!
VTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1366 times:
Quoting Mtsubshe (Reply 21): ( mostly women) sleeping on the floor
you drank all of the cheap scotch they gave you on board, didn't you????
VT-NYC
First Flight, PA001 DEL-FRA-LHR-JFK; Dream- JFK-COK on a B6 787
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2834 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1340 times:
Quoting Mtsubshe (Reply 21): it is good that you never flown on AIR INDIA, especially on long haul sectors, you have to jump a lot of hurdles to get to the bathroom in the rear, WHY? because you could see a lot of people ( mostly women) sleeping on the floor
I'm sorry, but I've flown several times on AI over the years on several different sectors and aircraft types and have NEVER seen any pax sleeping on the floor......if you have had a one-off experience, don't generalise it.....
Moreover, if some wayward pax chooses to momentarily sleep in the aisles, it's no reflection on the airline itself....isn't it the pax who is at fault? And yes, before you frame your reply, if this is a regularly observed practice and the FA's do nothing about it, certainly the airline needs to be condemned for that.....otherwise, I think your comments put you more or less in line with the growing tribe of AI bashers on this forum.....
25 SM777: Well my friend if there is a "growing tribe of AI bashers" there are reasons for it, which are well known and quite evident. Fly it to realise it !!
26 Gr8Circle: Unfortunately, this is more prevalent among the 'knowledgable' a.netters, who know everything about every airline Please read my post where I've stat
27 Mtsubshe: i had flown on AIR INDIA many times and i had seen people sleeping on the floor, all the times i flew on it, and as of FA,they dont care once they are
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