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Allegiant Nose Gear Collapse On Landing  
User currently offlineRadiocheck From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17325 times:

Just caught a fleeting headline on CNN about an Allegiant Air nose gear collapse on landing. Included video of aircraft on runway. Looks to be Orlando Sanford Int'l.

Though I say gear collapse on landing, it is unclear whether or not the nose gear was down at all.

Does anyone have any further details?



rc

[Edited 2007-03-29 22:49:45]

66 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17334 times:

100 Pax Jet Just Landed @ SFB W/out Nosegear! (by MIAMIx707 Mar 29 2007 in Civil Aviation)


Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17203 times:

This post beat mine for a few minutes, sorry I didn't see it, so I'll ask the mods to delete mine.


The local radio says everyone is ok, I assumed it was an Allegiant flight since the airport's page shows one of their flights is "delayed" on departure.

Does this type of accident means a write-off or can the plane be fixed?


User currently offlineCoolGuy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 414 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17140 times:

It didn't look like spoilers were deployed, and I wonder about thrust reversers and brakes. Are those recommended in this case?

User currently offlineRadiocheck From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17156 times:

No worries about the double thread, MIAMI...

Flight was AAY758 from Portsmouth, NH. 157 souls aboard, no injuries reported.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY758

rc


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17152 times:

Just caught the local live news coverage, the nosegear was up for landing....Emergency equipment was standing by at end of runway, virtually no damage to aircraft, probably back in the air in a couple of days...All aircraft diverting to MCO!

Joe Patroni not needed.....


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9375 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17174 times:

great video

see WKMG tv.



if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
User currently offlineDenplanenut From United States of America, joined May 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17099 times:

WOW... that must have been nerve racking! Allegiant Air MD-80

User currently offlineRadiocheck From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17082 times:

Quality Airmanship...

http://www.local6.com/news/11441316/detail.html

Also, to correct my earlier report, WKMG is reporting 147 on board, not 157.

I wonder how this could've happened, what with Allegiant having the 'youngest MD-80 fleet in the world' and all...

rc


User currently offlineGeotrash From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17006 times:

A fine job by the flight crew. They held the nose off for as long as possible, and appear to have done it just right. Everyone walked away and the airplane will fly again some day. Bravo!

Dave


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9375 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 16963 times:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16875 times:

I HATE the press: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17860590/
WTF is OSIA? not even the LOCALS call it that  Yeah sure


User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3106 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16901 times:

Courtesy: WKMG-TV

Video of Landing:

http://www.local6.com/video/11441180/index.html


User currently offlineAV8orWALK From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16882 times:

That was a great video! WKMG always does a good job covering stories like this. I remember a few things from Inflight Training, which was over 10 years ago. In a nose-gear up landing, the best exits to be used are the forward exits, since the back of the aircraft will be higher off the ground, and the slides may not reach. However, I noticed that emergency vehicle pull right up to the forward entry door as soon as the plane landed. If they needed to evacuate (thank God they didn't) those flight attendants would have been in for a real shock as soon as the slide inflated ON TOP of an emergency vehicle! Thus, rendering it useless!

Glad everyone is ok!

Drew
MCO



The safest place to be in an airplane crash is on the ground.
User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16771 times:

Not too many diversions, an Excel 767 diverted enroute to SFB from LGW to MCO and the local news reports that two more flights will also divert....

User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16744 times:

and to think I was gonna go to SFB this afternoon about 30 minutes before this happened to get a shot of the new XL c/s on the 767.. now kicking myself for not going.

It would've been great to get a shot of that MD80 landing without gear lol


User currently offlineMCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16738 times:

Does anyone know the status of SFB right now? Is it closed?

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16746 times:

Quoting AV8orWALK (Reply 13):
However, I noticed that emergency vehicle pull right up to the forward entry door as soon as the plane landed. If they needed to evacuate (thank God they didn't) those flight attendants would have been in for a real shock as soon as the slide inflated ON TOP of an emergency vehicle! Thus, rendering it useless!

I hope the person that drove that vehicle gets a tad more training in the future (they may have had good intetnions). Not the place to park, especially since you do not know the condition on the inside. Bad move, indeed.

The forward cabin door, regardless of the extent of damage (in this case, none), is the exit people are likely to try to get out. It is the door in which they entered. Statistics and accidents have proven this. The emergency vehicle should have parked adjacent to it, not in front of it.

Just glad all are ok.

GREAT job on behalf of the entire crew. Job WELL DONE!!!

[Edited 2007-03-30 00:02:50]

Must have been the view from the helicopter that showed that vehicle in that area. Just saw a different video.

[Edited 2007-03-30 00:13:45]


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16676 times:

I had heard that plane was going out by the end of the year anyway,,, but i dont think there was really any damage at all


i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3106 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16650 times:

Courtesy: WFTV-TV

Only One Minor Injury After Plane Lands Without Nose Gear - Video

http://www.wftv.com/video/11441962/detail.html

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Courtesy: WOFL-TV & STLgph

Airliner Makes Hard Landing at Sanford Airport - Video

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Edited 2007-03-30 00:29:29]

User currently offlineUnknownUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16602 times:

I see photos on site B. I imagine the photog has uploaded them here as well. Just depends how quick they get them up here. They are really freaky looking.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9375 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16565 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 11):
WTF is OSIA? not even the LOCALS call it that

it's the name given to the airport.

duh.



if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16567 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 11):
WTF is OSIA? not even the LOCALS call it that

It says they had 176 passengers on board too. I don't think an MD-80 is certified to carry that much.

Quoting AV8orWALK (Reply 13):
That was a great video!

The video is good, but it cuts off just as the overwing exits are opening. I want to see the entire evacuation as well. I'm sure they had the camera rolling.


User currently offlineDLCnxgptjax From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16532 times:

Quoting MCO2BRS (Reply 16):
Does anyone know the status of SFB right now? Is it closed?

There were two more Allegiant flights, a biz jet, and a cessna that arrived after the incident. They used Rwy 18 for the jets ands 9R for the cessna. Didn't see any flight training going on though. So I guess they're open, but to limited traffic.


User currently offlineBOE773 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16531 times:

Really no big deal with rgds to airmanship.
Just hold the nose up as long as possible and let her skate along.
A L or R mlg angled or hung up on the uplock hook or whatever is more of a handful.


25 AirTranTUS : Did anyone else notice that the main gear doors were hanging open? Definitely some sort of hydraulic problem. The flaps obviously did come down OK tho
26 MIAMIx707 : Is this the first time something like this happens at Orlando Sanford? It's kind of annoying how the media keeps saying how one person was injured...
27 MCO2BRS : But this is quite possibly the most interesting thing that has happened in Borelando this month!! I'm surprised that they didn't start out by saying
28 Comet2404 : I was there and watched it happen in person. I was standing on the ramp as the jet came in. He first did a fly by past the tower with the nose-wheel u
29 F9Animal : The pilots did a fine job! What a smooth landing. I noticed the main gear doors came down, which if not mistaken could be related to hydraulic problem
30 Ebs757 : Great Job by the crew but this really worry's me...the AA MD80 no nose gear last year and a few weeks ago on my moms flight they were getting a bad li
31 Sideflare75 : Assuming they pulled the emergency extension handle to try and get the nose gear down then the main gear doors will be hanging open on a MD-80. That
32 JetBlueGuy2006 : They do have windows, but they are all in really bad spots. If you look at my TR, some of the pics were taken at some really bad angles because all t
33 Wjcandee : Uhhh...for all the allocades to the pilot, he bounced it pretty hard on the nose and then pulled it back up; did I see the airframe flex?? I'm doubtin
34 LASOctoberB6 : ok in a situmacation (
35 Cubastar : Delta took delivery of a brand new DC-8-61 way back when and before placing it on the Line, was doing flight training at Jacksonville municipal (Flor
36 DLCnxgptjax : Local news is reporting that the plane is still on the runway. A "specialized" team is driving up from Miami to help move it off of the runway. Should
37 F9Animal : Yes, it does appear that he bounced it a bit. But, he could have been trying a last ditch effort to knock the nosegear loose in hopes that it would e
38 BOE773 : Yes I noticed the nose score the rwy for a while, then he pumps in some elevator and has enough airflow over the h stab to lift the nose again. Keep
39 Comet2404 : Yeah I'm sure they do. Allegiant usually has a few planes sitting down at their MTC base here at SFB. I'm hoping they just drag the airplane from the
40 Post contains images Alphaomega : Flight crew was relatively new pilots so great job on their part. 18-36 is a shorter runway at 6003ft but was able to handle the A330s due to them lea
41 DLCnxgptjax : What do you mean "leaving back to England ferry? Did they ferry back to England, or is that a term for something else? If they did indeed ferry back
42 Mir : Recording of parts of the event are on the LiveATC.net forums. Also on the tape is a seaplane that's piloted by the world's foremost "me first" person
43 Bruce : Is this frame going to be a write-off? Such a landing could have damaged the stringers or beams in the fuselage like it did on that A320 of America We
44 Post contains links Max777geek : Italian news video : http://tv.repubblica.it/home_page.ph...=8659&fromplayer=8659&stream=video looks like only nose gear not extended, not main landi
45 Boeing767mech : It can be rebuilt in about 2 weeks the 2 AAirframes my employer banged up had them flying within 2 weeks. The guys in TulsAA do wonders with sheet met
46 Alphaomega : A ferry flight means a flight carrying no passengers or bags, also known as a positioning flight. With the exception of Allegiant, Flyglobespan and I
47 DLCnxgptjax : LOL.... I know what ferry means. I just wasn't sure what you meant by "back to England ferry" as opposed to ferry back to England. Same difference I
48 Gihanjay : STLGph, I like the way the media sometimes overstate comments. On your post the Fox news had to put, "The plane made a hard landing on its nose and ..
49 MIAMIx707 : Could it be you're talking about the domestic terminal on the left side? The intl. terminal to the right is an enclosed box with no windows (unless t
50 MIAMIx707 : Forgot to ask, how was the plane moved? Thanks!
51 Post contains images STLGph : a) it is Fox... b) well ... it wasn't exactly the "softest of landings" though c) you're welcome
52 Comet2404 : They brought up a team from Miami, and it sort of looked like an airbag or something. They jacked up the front end, then got the nose gear out, and t
53 TWAL1011727 : Except when the news anchor(Bob Friar) blantantly states that the pax were staring at death or words to the effect. Its stupid irresponsible statemen
54 JetBlueGuy2006 : Yeah, I wasn't able to get into the Intern. Terminal, although you could see gate 6 and the back of the Icelandair 757. What is up with the glass, ha
55 Alphaomega : It has to do with gates 6, 7, 8, and 9 so they can be used for domestic and international flights. For domestic flights, the passengers just go right
56 AirTranTUS : That kind of system seems weird, but the airlines must have done the studies and know they make money the way they fly now.
57 Zvocio79 : Thank God every one came out alive
58 Post contains links and images UnknownUser : A.net finally has a photo: View Large View MediumPhoto © Ryan Richter - Rocky Mountain Aviation Photos
59 JetBlueGuy2006 : Thank you very much for the answer
60 Post contains images DeltaAVL : Wow, great photograph! And I love how the media was saying "They were preparing for mass casualties".
61 Wjcandee : All those window shades should be full-up open for landing, much less an emergency landing, and it is clear that several have been pulled half-down.
62 Isitsafenow : Did anyone notice the load factor reported and that the plane was full? This says quite a bit about Allegiant and the way it picks small city America
63 Post contains images Yellowstone : Better make sure no corporate bean counters get a hold of this video...they might start thinking that nose gear should be optional!
64 SFO777200LR : How soon after the plane's landing did the evacuation take place? By watching the videos, it had been some time.
65 Comet2404 : Yeah it was some time. They let the fire trucks and all come over and evaluate the situation before they let them off. Yeah - that picture was taken b
66 Alphaomega : Just an update on the aircraft, N877GA was ferried out to TUL for the structure maintenance earlier today at around 2:30pm. Have fun AA mx!
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