Paul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3 Posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
I would like to discuss with someone about airports around the world. What do you think is the best one, in terms of facilities, interiors, space, comfort, airlines, access to the city, connecting easiness, spotting places and what else you might think of.
Personally I prefer One-Terminal Airports, as I like the idea of having all airlines and planes next to each other and not far apart, therefore I like airports like Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Milan Malpensa, Miami, Minneapolis, Singapore, Sydney, Melbourne and so on.
Let me know what you think.
MD-11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
Well, in a recent poll of about 70000 travelers as I recall, HEL (Helsinki-Vantaa International) was found to be the best airport in the world, because of the various characteristics that you listed. I personally have the same opinion also.
Dan From France, joined Aug 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
CPH was elected as "Airport of the year" 1999.
Hereunder is a quote from the Wolrdwide timetable from CPH airport.
"In the extensive global "Airline/Airport of the year"-survey, carried out by OAG (Oficcial Airlines Guide), frequent travellers have recently voted Copenhagen airport "Best Airport in Europe, Middel East and Africa" ... and as the third best in the world."
I guess that true from a travellers point of vue, but from an "aviationer" point of vue, tha glamour is slightly fallen. You have one good spotting-place around the whole perimeter of the airport, and it covers approx. 1/3 of the RWY's, that's it!
Fortunately, the rebuilding of the airport will include a "spotters lounge" in terminal 2, but will see then if that's an improvement.
Inside the airport everything is very nice though, and the rebuilding has certainly improved the overall look of the airport.
Cubanaair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
Paul: Even though I would usually have to agree with you on the superiority of "one terminal" airports,I was shocked to see you include Miami in your list of good airports.I am a flight attendant based at MIA , and I go through it at least twice a week, sometimes more often. The ticketing area is too close to the entrance doors and at peak times you must fight your way through "wall to wall" passengers wating in line to check their bags.I normally use concorse D or E when arriving and depending on the gate , it can be a LONG and unconfortable walk to passport control and customs. You may have to use a shutle train to get to the main part of E concorse from the remote gates, (sounds like another terminal to me),and when the train doors open , aproximatly 60 people have to use a "single lane" escalator to reach the immigration hall!!!. The departures level passenger drop-off area is so small and narrow that traffic police has to be stationed every few feet to keep cars moving at all times or the airport aproach road screeches to a halt in minutes, (I've seen it happen).While I could go on for hours , in all fairness it's not all the designer's fault.MIA is always changing and growing and sometimes plans are obsolete before construction is even finished!
Granite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5613 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
My personal preference of the ones I have been through so far is Schiphol Amsterdam. One terminal and everything is "there".
As for cleanliness, I passed through Kai Tak in '95 and '97 and I can honestly say that for being an old building the terminal was spotless. Toilets are usually "iffy" at airports, but the ones in Kai Tak were spotless (Well, when I used them!!)
I will be flying in to Changi in November and i am looking forward to that.
Paul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2294 times:
Yes you are right, MIAMI Airport is not that nice at all. Only thing I like about it is the idea of the single Terminal, with so many Concourse next to each other, so that you can walk around and see all different carriers, especially the South American ones and the Carribean Airlines that you do not see very much here in Europe. I guess that is what impressed me. I was just recalling all the airports like that , just to give an idea of what I meant.
Another good airport is Zurich, and also Copenhagen which was mentioned above, the only thing is that you do not see those many airlines
Gardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
I have never been there, but I have heard a lot of good comments about Helsinki-Vantaa even though it is supposed to be a very small terminal. As for Frankfurt, I would certainly not include that on this list. Whenever I am there, there is always not enough seats airside, and it was all very "messy". Singapore Changi has to come on top for everything - shops, space, efficiency, cleanliness. I will be going to Copenhagen for the first time in Nov, so Im looking forward to checking it out.
V Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2291 times:
I agree that one terminal airports are best. I'm surprised you include Sydney in your list. It is very definately a 3 terminal airport as if you arrive at the international terminal you still have to bus it to the domestic terminals if you are transferring to a domestic flight. Thats why I think Melbourne Tullamarine is a much easier airport to transit through.
Paul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2292 times:
Hi, I visited Kingsford Smith years ago (93), and maybe it has changed a while since then, as I remember they were already working hard to renew it. You are right, Melbourne is much better, especially because it has a great viewing deck from which spotting is just great (93).
As I said earlier my list was a quick draft, don't be to strict on that one, I just meant to give you an idea.
Airports I don't like are those like JFK, Heathrow, Toronto and so on, where basically you have completely different buildings, and there is no way to see it as a whole.
Anyway give me a list of your favourite airports.
FlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2309 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2292 times:
As you can tell by my username, my hometown airport, Port Columbus International, is one of my favorite airports ever. Port Columbus is a clean, one terminal, two runway, 3 concourse airport. It also has some great spots to spot (hehe), and the variety is pretty good for the airport's size. I would like to see larger planes at CMH thought. Currently the largest scheduled plane at CMH is the 757 operated by AWA, UAL, and DL. But probably the best airport I've ever been to is Brussels International. It's a one terminal facility, very new, clean, and modern, and has some amazing spotting areas, and plenty to do during long layovers. I also like Zurich, and Orlando International.
Leo-ERJ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2292 times:
Hey Paul. Check out this airport. The terminal design is pretty unique, a kinda satellite termial in "UFO" format with connection to the main building. It is part of the Brasilia International Airport, and still is though One terminal only as a whole, the type you mentioned you prefer...
Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2939 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2294 times:
I reckon the new Kuala Lumpur International Airport does pretty well in terms of design, space and comfort. Opened in June '98...it's certainly a marvel to travel through.
Designed with the 'forest in the airport and airport in the forest' concept, you can shop, rest and relax amongst the tropical waterfalls and plants. The airport will also host a leg of the Formula One Grand Prix this October as the new Sepang F-1 track is built adjacent to it.
Built extensively from steel and glass...they have a website at http://www.klia.com.my
William From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1478 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
I love Washington National too for convenience,but keep this one thing in mind,an airport that has as dangerous northern approach as National does would not be open if it was in any other city,if it was not Washington DC,that was a comment from a safety expert.
Charles802 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
Ooh boy is Newerk great. I had to use the bathroom, but I couldn't because all the toilets in the particular concourse were broken by some vandal. And my flight was actually only one half hour late leaving...which must be a new Newerk punctuality record!
IB6400 From Mexico, joined Jun 1999, 247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2292 times:
At least this airports are just fine for me: (They are in order) (MEX) México City International (MAD) Madrid Barajas International (CDG) (BCN) El Pratt (GDL) Miguel Hidalgo (EZE) Ezeiza They are not so big... not so small they are just perfect...
Yo soy yo más mis circunstancias - J. Ortega y Gasset
Dash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2292 times:
The PDX renovations are to facilitate the light-rail coming in, more ramp space for Horizon Air's growth, and continually increasing air traffic into PDX to give SEA some breathing room. But, you're right PDX is great. But my favorite is.....EUG (Eugene, OR)
Darrell From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (16 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
Without a doubt, it would have to be Portland, Oregon PDX.
Lots of recent construction makes it a little bit difficult to park, but when the construction/expansion is complete, it will be a world class airport. PDX has a good restaurant, lots of bars, great shopping, (people in Portland actually go to the airport just to shop) it will soon have light rail access and a brand new ATC tower.