HUYguy From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 274 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1512 times:
I suppose its quite realistic actually. I can see Humberside becoming more and more popular as a freight airport.
As for passengers however, I can't see it growing all that much, although reaching 1 million passengers is a target I think Humberside could strive to and possibly achieve by 2016. DSA, EMA and LBA to some extent are too close for HUY to grow significantly though.
Its a shame, because HUY is my local airport really, but EMA and DSA are actually more accessible.
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4913 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1412 times:
Quoting HUYguy (Reply 1): I can see Humberside becoming more and more popular as a freight airport.
A lot of the regional plans (e.g. The Northern Way) focus on the freight potential. Icelandair's flights have been a huge success and as well as fish they are now carrying general cargo trcuked in from LHR and NEMA. The imported fish is vital to keeping the remaining local fish factories open so theres a lot of importance on freight traffic growing at HUY
The airport has definetly got to focus on its core market - the Humber region and develop new services that meet the needs of local people and businesses. The current KLM service being a very good example of a service developed around the needs of the local market. Theres definetly no point in trying to serve the wider region beyond possibly a few niche routes. And Im pleased the masterplan recognises this
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4913 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1324 times:
FR were doing well at weekends but it was the midweek flights that let things down, at least as far as loads go. However, with the service attracting about 5000 passengers a month, I too dont see why RE couldn't make a go of the route, say 5xWeek (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun). Though sadly if they were going to do it, I think they would have done it by now
HUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1397 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1280 times:
I think the HUY masterplan is more realistic than the initial version.
I think we all have to accept the fact that DSA has basically curtailled any potential growth at HUY. HUY would undoubtedly have grown at a faster rate, with a based Lo-co, had DSA not come along. DSA is not a bad thing, it just means that HUY will probably remain as is, and that expectations for any developent, especially in the scheduled sector should remain minimal. I don't think London will, or should happen, Hull Trains have taken the majority of the potential market, and the development of these services, as well as being healthier for the environment, is key to shorter domestic travel within the UK.
I doubt lo-co will happen, and I can only see the charter programme shrinking, so HUY's only option for constant growth remains freight.
Rineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1271 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 4): Though sadly if they were going to do it, I think they would have done it by now
I wouldn't be so sure. RE have ten brand new ATR 72s on the way from Toulouse, starting this summer. I'm not sure if their plans are more for fleet replacement rather then fleet growth, but I'm sure there will be some network expansion. Given the size and range of the 72s, the Irish-UK market is probably the optimum one for them, and RE will probably be looking to capitalise on routes FR/EI have pulled off of or haven't served thus far. Therefore, HUY should be in the reckoning given that EI and FR have pretty much all of the rest of the DUB-UK routes covered. Plus, as you pointed out, the loads weren't all that bad. The capacity of the aircraft would be significantly reduced, which would most definitely result in higher prices on the route, but it will also take alot less to break-even on the route.
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4913 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1198 times:
Quoting HUYfan (Reply 5): I think the HUY masterplan is more realistic than the initial version.
I couldnt see any major changes from the first draft. What changes did you notice?
As a side note, I noted there were only 29 responses to the draft, which is very disappointing
Quoting HUYfan (Reply 5): I don't think London will, or should happen, Hull Trains have taken the majority of the potential market, and the development of these services, as well as being healthier for the environment, is key to shorter domestic travel within the UK.
I was shocked to see London and Belfast specifically targeted from services. LON would have worked maybe say 5 years ago, but wouldn't now as you say. LHR may work, but thats not going to happen. And as for Belfast, BE at DSA have that market
Quoting HUYfan (Reply 5): I can only see the charter programme shrinking
Personally I think we need to wait and see what the impact of the Airtours/Thomas Cook and Thomson/First Choice mergers are before having any long term thoughts on the charter programme. The 1st Edition Summer 2008 brochures will be interesting. However I agree things aren;t looking good, especially with the late cancellation of Monastir by Airtours/Panorama for this summer
Quoting HUYfan (Reply 5): HUY's only option for constant growth remains freight
Definitely growth potential, though I dont think we can depend too much on this. There plenty of potential for fish and other 'niche' services but there isn't going to be the likes of DHL or TNT turning up. Being part of the same group as EMA will make sure of that (along with the location of the airport)