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DL's DXB-ATL: Weight Restrictions?  
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Just wondering, is there any possibility that DL's new DXB-ATL flight will have weight restrictions? I hear DXB can be extremely hot in the summer.


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3969 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2962 times:
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extremly hot is an understatement!!!!! when i was there in august on the ramp, it must have been about 130!!  Smile


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

It absolutely must.. as MH's DXB-EWR does (did?) and EK never desired to fly the route before receiving 345s.

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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

Well the flight departs DXB at 10:45 pm so that should help....


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 3):
Well the flight departs DXB at 10:45 pm so that should help....

In the Middle East during the summer temperatures don't tend to drop much from what they were during the day. For example when I was in Morocco two summers ago it was 112 during the day and 102 at night.

[Edited 2007-04-02 04:09:43]


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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

the flight is still about 1 hr shorter than BOMJFK and that flight operates at the full MTOW of the aircraft. DXB has very long runways and DL's 777s have 95K engines. I can't say it won't but DL has done everything it can to minimize the possibility.

User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4504 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 3):
Well the flight departs DXB at 10:45 pm so that should help....

MH's DXB EWR was in the middle of the night, around 2am, and still took weight restrictions.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30989 posts, RR: 86
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2754 times:
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Worst comes to worst, DL can move some of their 772LRs to the route once they enter the fleet.

User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

You should look forward to the high temps in India as well.

User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

DL has been pretty ambitious in reducing the weight of their in-service 777-232ERs, even going so far as to reduce the amount of beverages stocked on ultra-long-hauls to squeeze every drop of range out of those puppies. While I'm sure they will take some weight restriction on either end, I don't believe the penalties will be extraordinary.

On a similar note, DL's new 76C (reconfigured 767-432ER) have all overhead LCD monitors removed throughout the cabin to save weight, requiring flight attendants to do a manual demo. Can't remember the last time I saw a manual safety demo on a widebody under normal operations...not saying it will be very interesting, but sort of strange!


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Quoting 777gk (Reply 9):
On a similar note, DL's new 76C (reconfigured 767-432ER) have all overhead LCD monitors removed throughout the cabin to save weight, requiring flight attendants to do a manual demo. Can't remember the last time I saw a manual safety demo on a widebody under normal operations...not saying it will be very interesting, but sort of strange!

They can't show it on the PTVs?



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User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

The PTVs in the BusinessElite cabin as well as row 30(?) in Y stow in the armrest and are not visible during taxi, takeoff, and landing, thus requiring a manual demo.

[Edited 2007-04-02 05:54:59]

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13126 posts, RR: 100
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2469 times:
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Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 4):
For example when I was in Morocco two summers ago it was 112 during the day and 102 at night.

First, that 10 degree F drop is significant from a performance standpoint. However, at 102F, the airframe/engine will be weight restricted.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 7):
Worst comes to worst, DL can move some of their 772LRs to the route once they enter the fleet.

 checkmark  however, India routes will be more profitable for the LR's.

Question: Does anyone know what seats DL selected for their 777's? The carbon-fiber seats can save 10lbm per seat and that can be significant.

I'm hearing about more and more non-EK flights to DXB. Does this flight interact with EK (code sharing)?

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineEmirates029 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2426 times:

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 12):
I'm hearing about more and more non-EK flights to DXB. Does this flight interact with EK (code sharing)?

Nope, EK doesn't tend to do much code-sharing, apart from with CO from LGW to North America and a few others.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2374 times:
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Quoting 777gk (Reply 9):
DL has been pretty ambitious in reducing the weight of their in-service 777-232ERs, even going so far as to reduce the amount of beverages stocked on ultra-long-hauls to squeeze every drop of range out of those puppies

Yes, duty free carts have also been removed from the 772ERs to BOM as well as most carts from the mid-Y galleys. The refurbished 772ERs have also had the overhead and front monitors/screens removed (since each seat has a PTV), thus helping to further reduce weight.

Quoting 777gk (Reply 9):
On a similar note, DL's new 76C (reconfigured 767-432ER) have all overhead LCD monitors removed throughout the cabin to save weight, requiring flight attendants to do a manual demo. Can't remember the last time I saw a manual safety demo on a widebody under normal operations...not saying it will be very interesting, but sort of strange!

As mentioned above, same case with the refurbished DL 772ERs. UA also does 'live' safety demos on their 777s as the overhead and front monitors have all been removed as well.

Quoting 777gk (Reply 11):
The PTVs in the BusinessElite cabin as well as row 30(?) in Y stow in the armrest and are not visible during taxi, takeoff, and landing, thus requiring a manual demo.

Could they not try to do it like BA - in ClubWorld, the FAs go through and pull everyone's PTVs out for the demo and then walk through the cabin again to make sure everything is stowed before takeoff......


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