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EK To Shift One DUS Flight To CGN...?  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

As reported in a German aviation forum,EK have apparently decided to shift one of the two DUS flights as of October 2007 to CGN.
Cologne airport -only about 50 Km from DUS,does not impose night-flight restrictions and has a major cargo-base.
The runway in CGN is nearly 4000 meters and the airport has been trying to catch more intercontinental flights recently.
There is no official confirmation yet,but the move would make sens,since EK have clearly announced they would be targeting more German airports other than FRA,MUC,DUS and HAM.
Currently the legal situation does not allow EK to increase their number of flights to Germany.


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User currently offlineEmirates029 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
There is no official confirmation yet,but the move would make sens,since EK have clearly announced they would be targeting more German airports other than FRA,MUC,DUS and HAM.

Apart from CGN what other airports can they really go after? Berlin?


User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

Berlin and Stuttgart. But that DUS-CGN move posting .. on April 1, ... dunno ...

SailorOrion

[Edited 2007-04-02 10:12:54]

User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

They have several times mentioned Berlin,Stuttgart and Cologne..


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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1405 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Stuttgart has to be next, it could easily support a daily 332.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Must be an april fool's joke.


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User currently offlineEmirates029 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 4):
Stuttgart has to be next, it could easily support a daily 332.

But whats the point in serving Stuttgart if Frankfurt is 20-30miles down the road?


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9146 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Quoting Emirates029 (Reply 6):

But whats the point in serving Stuttgart if Frankfurt is 20-30miles down the road

Frankfurt-Stuttgart is 200 km "down the road".

DUS/CGN is roughly in the 20-30 miles category and it does not make sense indeed to shift a flight to CGN.



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User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

CGN has DHL, Fed Ex and UPS. Maybe cargo somthing to do with it.


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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

I realize the post was edited 1 April - but it would be fully in-line with previous statements from EK in Germany,that they will not limit their presence to the current four airports.
While it might be too early for that particular move from DUS to CGN ,the issues of traffic rights will remain an obstacle in the immediate future.Their heavy presence in the UK (currently five-soon six airports) are in indication of their strategy.
All interesting airports above 5 Million passengers /year are on their target list.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9146 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Quoting Rlwynn (Reply 8):
CGN has DHL, Fed Ex and UPS. Maybe cargo somthing to do with it.

Absolutely not. CGN is a UPS hub, DHL routes their Mid East cargo via BAH and interlining between FX and EK might take place in DXB, but hardly in CGN.

EK is a strong cargo carrier and whatever they cannot get from the local market ius usually trucked. CGN loco freight is trucked either to DUS or to FRA.



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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1405 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Emirates029, as kindly pointed out by panHAM, it is a little further than 20-30 miles between FRA and STR.

EK serve both BHX and MAN, a mere 66 miles apart. EK will go into STR at some point.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

How about HAJ ? Could that sustain a 330 op ?

joe


User currently offlineAirevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 872 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

I was on an aviation conference in Frankfurt last week, organised by DVWG (German transport research society) (www.dvwg.de).

A spokesman of Lufthansa said that additional traffic rights for EK would cause negative welfare effects...

A spokesman of the German ministry of transport said that during forthcoming negotiations with EK/the UAE, the ministry would well consider the position of Lufthansa. On the other hand, a new agreement between the EU and Jordan was praised as a milestone...

Thus, it's all politics.
Sven



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User currently offlineEmiratesCPH From Denmark, joined Feb 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

Quoting Airevents (Reply 13):
A spokesman of the German ministry of transport said that during forthcoming negotiations with EK/the UAE, the ministry would well consider the position of Lufthansa

So they are going to favor LH...I understand.

But normally EU stands for free/open market/competition etc etc



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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1632 times:

Can we put this to rest ? It has been confirmed as an April 1 joke on the local German forum.

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