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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

This is from wikipedia ( not a reliable source, but anyway):

Angola's government has enjoyed a long, good relationship with the Cuban government. Seeking a connection with Latin American countries, the now private airline looked forward to starting flights to that Caribbean nation.

TAAG bought a Boeing 747 with this route in mind. When granted rights to fly to Cuba, TAAG gained the "distinction" of being the only African airline to fly to José Martí International Airport in Havana. The airline still uses the 747 on this route.


As far as I know, they don't fly to Cuba, at least not scheduled routes.
Any more information about this flights or when they operated this flights?

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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

I'm guessing DT has seasonal service to HAV. The other question is whether that information is indeed reliable or not.

User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2716 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

TAAG flew to Havana back in the 70s/80s, and early 90s,(I believe) and so did the airline from its sister country LAM Linhas Aereas de Mozambique. There was a lot of interaction with Cuba during the civil war in Angola. I've heard that many Cuban professors, doctors, and others in specialized fields were sent to Angola to assist with the organization of the country once Angola declared its independence from Portugal. Cuban workers reached very high numbers warranting the need for once every two-week service between the two points. Today, TAAG only maintains a sales office in Havana as a political gesture for all the help Angola received from Cuba when it was a very young nation.

 Smile LatinPlane

P.S. on Myaviation.net, you can search for a foto of a LAM Ill-86 parked on the tarmac of Havana


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 2):
TAAG flew to Havana back in the 70s/80s, and early 90s,(I believe) and so did the airline from its sister country LAM Linhas Aereas de Mozambique. There was a lot of interaction with Cuba during the civil war in Angola. I've heard that many Cuban professors, doctors, and others in specialized fields were sent to Angola to assist with the organization of the country once Angola declared its independence from Portugal. Cuban workers reached very high numbers warranting the need for once every two-week service between the two points. Today, TAAG only maintains a sales office in Havana as a political gesture for all the help Angola received from Cuba when it was a very young nation.

x2

Cuba also had soldiers in Angola aligned with the MPLA organacion. Since they were both comrades in the Communist world, Cuba found it in it's best interest to help the new Communist states in Africa at the time.

This was reflected by the sheer number of routes to Allied nations and rogue states purely for political reasons.

Saludos,
Devan  cool 



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User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

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First time I've uploaded photos so if I f it up, sorry.

Now TAAG....Reading local magazines of the T7 and 737 order, infrastructure upgrades, seeing the A/C parked here and Varig engineering techs around, does anyone want to speculate on a future fleet order for a few extra routes north and west?

Felipe, did you have a chance to browse the mags I sent? Got an opinion?

Tchau



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Well since we are on to pictures, I'll post a few from my collection  cheerful 

First and foremost, Angola possess the World's fastest economy and last year it's GDP grew by 20%.



http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/luanda1.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/luanada3.jpg



(The bottom picture is the new Luanda WTC)



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User currently offline3201 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 2):
TAAG flew to Havana back in the 70s/80s, and early 90s,(I believe) and so did the airline from its sister country LAM Linhas Aereas de Mozambique. There was a lot of interaction with Cuba during the civil war in Angola. I've heard that many Cuban professors, doctors, and others in specialized fields were sent to Angola to assist with the organization of the country once Angola declared its independence from Portugal. Cuban workers reached very high numbers warranting the need for once every two-week service between the two points.

I remember when I was a kid, late 70's/early 80's, I got my hands on a worldwide OAG, and was shocked to see amongst the few international flights to HAV, flights to some place in a country called Angola that I'd never heard of. I asked my parents about it and they explained the political situation. My memory says it was a weekly flight that alternated between the Angolan airline (was it still TAAG back then) with a 707 and Cubana with an Il-62 -- so each flew a round-trip every two weeks.


User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

MD90fan

Thanks for posting the pics, I have some more I'll upload on the next TAAG thread. I'm on a slooow dial up downtowm.

How about some speculatoin that TAAG could fill 4 787-8s?

One thing I could never figiue out why there isn't a there a national airlines rinning routes up the coast. Lack of open skies?

Some 787s TAAG?



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2177 times:
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Quoting AirSpare (Reply 4):
Felipe, did you have a chance to browse the mags I sent? Got an opinion?

Yes Michael, thanks again. It's impressive the size of an economy that "borned" again just a couple of years ago. Probably is the country with more opportunities today for a lot of corporations !

Quoting AirSpare (Reply 7):
How about some speculatoin that TAAG could fill 4 787-8s?

May be, IMO LAD could be an important connecting airport for some others closer countries and this could help TAAG to fly more to LIS, GIG, JNB and to begin flights to other markets like CDG, MAD and in the future a US regular route.

Felipe



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User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2716 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1965 times:


MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © propfreak



Here is the pic I was talking about earlier. LAM - Linhas Aereas de Mozambique also flew tranatlantic services to Havana at the same time that Cubana de Aviacion flew its African revolutionary La Habana - Isla do Sal - Luanda - Maputo route. What an exotic route of the bigone era.


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TAAG also flew its Luanda - Isla do Sal - La Habana flight with machinery produced by communist U.S.S.R., while at same time flying Boeing 707s on its other route to the Americas, the still running Luanda - Rio de Janeiro.


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 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Cubana flew to many african destinations in the eary days including accra


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1730 times:
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Well, not many years ago (about ten or twelve years) I remember Cubana had a weekly flight from HAV to LAD and MPM with stop in SID.

They used to operate IL62 equipment.

But I must to recognise that I don't remember TAAG operating to Cuba... only to Rio de Janeiro with 743 equipment (when I had notices about these flights, I remember I was shocked!)



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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8287 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

IIRC LAM never flew to Cuba regularly. Those pictures are most likely charters that were used to carry Cuban professionals and aid to Mozambique, or Mozambican students to go study in Cuba.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 5):
First and foremost, Angola possess the World's fastest economy and last year it's GDP grew by 20%.

Lets not lose sight of the fact that despite all this, Angola remains one of the most depressing places in Africa and without a doubt the most bureaucratic and corrupt by far. And this comes from someone who has worked all over the continent from Liberia to Kenya to South Africa to Nigeria.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 13):
Lets not lose sight of the fact that despite all this, Angola remains one of the most depressing places in Africa and without a doubt the most bureaucratic and corrupt by far. And this comes from someone who has worked all over the continent from Liberia to Kenya to South Africa to Nigeria.

I'm well aware of that my friend, 70% of the people live on less than $2.00 a day and while the country made 30billion dollars in oil exports much of that has not made it's way to the average Angolan.

Angola ranks 142nd among 163 countries in Transparency International's annual corruption perception index, I read that in a article not too long ago.

Still Angola has come a long ways from it's pre-2002 standards IMO.



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