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Takeoff & Landing Camera On ANA 767 Last Night  
User currently offlineSuseJ772 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 820 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10657 times:

Last night I was on an ANA flight from NRT-OKA, using a 767-300ER and to my GREAT surprise, the captain left the the nose camera on during the entire taxi and takeoff, and then turned it back on for the final 6 nm of landing. It was AWESOME! I have never seen anything like that, and for some reason, I thought airlines no longer did that after the AA crash at ORD. I should have taken a picture, but I had an awful angle of the screens.

What other airliners do this?


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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8184 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10635 times:

Both JAL and ANA have this feature on every wide body aircraft.


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User currently offlineHoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3036 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10590 times:
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I've flown on a JL 763 last year which had that feature, and we had a spectacular view of the runway lights at KIX Runway 06 at night. I wish more airlines had this feature!
The CX 773 fleet is also supposed to have it, but it was disabled on my flight...



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10458 times:

Some European charter airlines offer this as well, such as DE and AB. Interesting, but gets kind of confusing if you have a window seat, do I look out the window or do I watch the screen .... lol!


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User currently offlineTimePilot From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10438 times:

JAL has done it every time I've flown out of NRT, ORD and I think JFK. There's also a camera looking straight down that's viewable on JEN (JAL Entertainment Network) channel 3 I think. The flight is always on a 747.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10267 times:

LX had nose cameras on 3 A320s used mainly on charter flights under the SWISS SUN brand. However they would quite often appear on LX scheduled flights. They had normal LX livery except the name was SWISS SUN instead of SWISS. I've been on 3 or 4 flights using those aircraft (HB-IJU/V/W) and the nose cameras were turned on for taxi/takeoff/landing.

LX dropped the SWISS SUN operation a couple of years ago and the 3 A320s are now part of the regular LX fleet (with the word SUN painted over), but not sure whether they have removed or deactivated the nose cameras.


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User currently offlineCoolGuy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 414 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10265 times:

What AA at ORD are you referring to?

User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10222 times:

It's standard (AFAIK) on EK aircraft - quite amzing watching the lights coming up over the gulf at night as you descend into DXB; also the downwards-facing camera is pretty useful... On some of my most recent EK flights I've had 3 seats (in economy), so I could have one PTV set to the moving map, one to the forward camera, and one to the downward camera. And if they had the moving map on the public screen, then I had one PTV free for a computer game ot two...  Smile

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User currently offlineSfomb67 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10173 times:

Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 6):
What AA at ORD are you referring to?

Had to have been the DC10 with the pylon accident. Only one I know of.



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User currently offlineGothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10073 times:

Quoting SuseJ772 (Thread starter):
I thought airlines no longer did that after the AA crash at ORD.

 Confused

Cameras outside the plane are a very recent development. There were few if any planes that had even TV monitors in the passenger cabin back then, never mind cameras broadcasting the view from the nose.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10053 times:

TG have this feature on their aircraft... I took it by surprise and had to grab my camera and get it on video!

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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5472 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10015 times:

AA had a nose camera (used during takeoffs and landings) as part of their new "ASTROVision" product back in maybe the late 60s or 70s; I think they were the first. I remember flying a 707 Astrojet from SAN to JFK and being able to enjoy the climb out and landing (unfortunately in black and white) broadcast on the screen -- really cool!

bb


User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10002 times:

I've had it on SAS HEL-CPH-LHR.

It's almost as cool as Channel 9 on UA


User currently offlineAidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9974 times:

I know Mytravel have them on their 767-300s and A330-200s .

User currently offlineKdm From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9964 times:

Cathay Pacific have it on some 777's. It was mounted just behind the noise wheel so you could watch the wheel go up and down. On Emirates I think it was mounted on the actual front wheel so during the flight you of course could not see anything.

User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9858 times:

Finnair have the cameras too, on the A319 / 320 / 321- not sure about their other aircraft

[Edited 2007-04-08 13:21:23]


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User currently offlineHelvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9829 times:

LX also have them on the A340s.

The last time I was on a LX 320 with the camera we had the camera on the screen for the takeoff but just the normal Airshow for the landing - same on the 340s.in C (the PTVs are stowed by this time)

I can see why, you can imagine how some pax would react if the plane had to make a go-around due to a runway incursion and they saw it. On the other hand they put connecting gate info on the Airshow for the last 20 minutes so maybe that was the reason.


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9824 times:

SK has this on their 340s. They have a nose view, and a bottom view. They can also be accessed during flight.


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User currently offlineAerLingus747 From Ireland, joined Apr 2006, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9821 times:

SAS have them on the A330 and I think the A340.

AerLingus747


User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9563 times:

Flew CPT - FRA two days ago and SA had them also on their A346

The tail camera is quite interesting during taxi  Wink

BTW I had access to the tail, downward an front camera the whole time during taxi, flight, and even after we arrived at the gate...


User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1448 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9291 times:

Quoting TimePilot (Reply 4):
JAL has done it every time I've flown out of NRT, ORD and I think JFK. There's also a camera looking straight down that's viewable on JEN (JAL Entertainment Network) channel 3 I think. The flight is always on a 747.

Here are a couple of pictures I took on-board a JAL 744on finals. Great little feature if you ask me.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u271/Norcal773/FebTriptoCali158.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u271/Norcal773/FebTriptoCali157.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u271/Norcal773/FebTriptoCali159.jpg

[Edited 2007-04-08 15:28:38]


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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9229 times:

Iberia A340-600 take-off from Montevideo:



User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12521 posts, RR: 35
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9016 times:

Emirates has it on its fleet as well; in these days when you can't get jump seat access anymore, it's a great plus. I remember having it on a CX 773, in J Class. The unfortunate thing was that these were the armrest PTVs ... which had to be stowed for t/o and landing. D'oh!

I've experienced it on a JAL 763 coming into KIX on a really nasty day; that was interesting to watch on the cabin screen.


User currently offlineHotje From Netherlands, joined Jul 2004, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7482 times:

Garuda did this already in 1998 on their 747s.

User currently offline707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 585 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7185 times:

re: 1979 crash, American Airlines., Flight 191, at O'Hare. One thing I distinctly remember is there was a tremendous amount of distress over some PAX perhaps having been able to witness their own demise on live TV in the cabin. I also remember thinking the notion was overwrought at the time, and it still is. Nonetheless, nearly thirty years later and millions of take-offs and landings, no TV - in the US anyway.

25 Post contains images InnocuousFox : Yeah... as if they couldn't look out the bloody windows and see that they were rolling into the ground. Maybe we should ban windows on planes, too.
26 SANFan : Unless of course you're on JetBlue or someone with live TV broadcasts in the cabin and CNN is filming your demise for the TV audience... bb
27 Avallillo : The DC-10's in the AA fleet in the 1970's had a cockpit camera, not a nose camera. As others have pointed out, external cameras, especially in color,
28 GregQuinn : In '83 or '84, well after the '79 ORD crash, I flew AA on a DC-10 from LGA to YYZ and there was a camera operating, probably from the nose landing-gea
29 FXMD11 : I had it on SK BKK-CPH and CPH to MUC
30 757ops : I have also seen these great videos on EY A330's and 773's and BD have had them on the A330 flights from the start and I can tell you landing into BGI
31 Platinumfoota : This would be a great feature for UA to have to go along with Ch. 9
32 Post contains images Sabena332 : I experienced it first on a SAA A346 flight from CPT to JNB, it was indeed very amazing! ... ... But nothing can beat a cockpit jumpseat flight. Patr
33 Post contains images InnocuousFox : Heh... what I want on UA is a local area radar scope in the seat back TV!
34 Sfomb67 : When I was in the military, 1964-68, I flew on an AA plane, either 707 or 727 and it had a nose gear camera, with the T/O & Ldg shown on TV's mounted
35 Spacecadet : I hate JAL's and ANA's exterior cameras - I have to deal with them on every flight between JFK and NRT. I'm a nervous flier as it is, and on a fully l
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