SuseJ772 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 909 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11397 times:
Last night I was on an ANA flight from NRT-OKA, using a 767-300ER and to my GREAT surprise, the captain left the the nose camera on during the entire taxi and takeoff, and then turned it back on for the final 6 nm of landing. It was AWESOME! I have never seen anything like that, and for some reason, I thought airlines no longer did that after the AA crash at ORD. I should have taken a picture, but I had an awful angle of the screens.
Hoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3316 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11330 times:
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I've flown on a JL 763 last year which had that feature, and we had a spectacular view of the runway lights at KIX Runway 06 at night. I wish more airlines had this feature!
The CX 773 fleet is also supposed to have it, but it was disabled on my flight...
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TimePilot From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11178 times:
JAL has done it every time I've flown out of NRT, ORD and I think JFK. There's also a camera looking straight down that's viewable on JEN (JAL Entertainment Network) channel 3 I think. The flight is always on a 747.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 28768 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11007 times:
LX had nose cameras on 3 A320s used mainly on charter flights under the SWISS SUN brand. However they would quite often appear on LX scheduled flights. They had normal LX livery except the name was SWISS SUN instead of SWISS. I've been on 3 or 4 flights using those aircraft (HB-IJU/V/W) and the nose cameras were turned on for taxi/takeoff/landing.
LX dropped the SWISS SUN operation a couple of years ago and the 3 A320s are now part of the regular LX fleet (with the word SUN painted over), but not sure whether they have removed or deactivated the nose cameras.
Rivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10962 times:
It's standard (AFAIK) on EK aircraft - quite amzing watching the lights coming up over the gulf at night as you descend into DXB; also the downwards-facing camera is pretty useful... On some of my most recent EK flights I've had 3 seats (in economy), so I could have one PTV set to the moving map, one to the forward camera, and one to the downward camera. And if they had the moving map on the public screen, then I had one PTV free for a computer game ot two...
Cameras outside the plane are a very recent development. There were few if any planes that had even TV monitors in the passenger cabin back then, never mind cameras broadcasting the view from the nose.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 6055 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10755 times:
AA had a nose camera (used during takeoffs and landings) as part of their new "ASTROVision" product back in maybe the late 60s or 70s; I think they were the first. I remember flying a 707 Astrojet from SAN to JFK and being able to enjoy the climb out and landing (unfortunately in black and white) broadcast on the screen -- really cool!
Kdm From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10704 times:
Cathay Pacific have it on some 777's. It was mounted just behind the noise wheel so you could watch the wheel go up and down. On Emirates I think it was mounted on the actual front wheel so during the flight you of course could not see anything.
Helvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10569 times:
LX also have them on the A340s.
The last time I was on a LX 320 with the camera we had the camera on the screen for the takeoff but just the normal Airshow for the landing - same on the 340s.in C (the PTVs are stowed by this time)
I can see why, you can imagine how some pax would react if the plane had to make a go-around due to a runway incursion and they saw it. On the other hand they put connecting gate info on the Airshow for the last 20 minutes so maybe that was the reason.
Norcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1461 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10031 times:
Quoting TimePilot (Reply 4): JAL has done it every time I've flown out of NRT, ORD and I think JFK. There's also a camera looking straight down that's viewable on JEN (JAL Entertainment Network) channel 3 I think. The flight is always on a 747.
Here are a couple of pictures I took on-board a JAL 744on finals. Great little feature if you ask me.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 13175 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9756 times:
Emirates has it on its fleet as well; in these days when you can't get jump seat access anymore, it's a great plus. I remember having it on a CX 773, in J Class. The unfortunate thing was that these were the armrest PTVs ... which had to be stowed for t/o and landing. D'oh!
I've experienced it on a JAL 763 coming into KIX on a really nasty day; that was interesting to watch on the cabin screen.
707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7925 times:
re: 1979 crash, American Airlines., Flight 191, at O'Hare. One thing I distinctly remember is there was a tremendous amount of distress over some PAX perhaps having been able to witness their own demise on live TV in the cabin. I also remember thinking the notion was overwrought at the time, and it still is. Nonetheless, nearly thirty years later and millions of take-offs and landings, no TV - in the US anyway.
: Yeah... as if they couldn't look out the bloody windows and see that they were rolling into the ground. Maybe we should ban windows on planes, too.
: Unless of course you're on JetBlue or someone with live TV broadcasts in the cabin and CNN is filming your demise for the TV audience... bb
: The DC-10's in the AA fleet in the 1970's had a cockpit camera, not a nose camera. As others have pointed out, external cameras, especially in color,
: In '83 or '84, well after the '79 ORD crash, I flew AA on a DC-10 from LGA to YYZ and there was a camera operating, probably from the nose landing-gea