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Olympic Airlines Carries Light From The Holyland  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27313 posts, RR: 60
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5198 times:

Which other airlines do this ??? Do SU/PS/JU/???

http://news.ert.gr/en/4/24459.asp

All Orthodox Christians are looking forward the hopeful message of Jesus Resurrection. The Ceremony of the Holy Light took place at noon at the Holy Sepulcher, in Jerusalem and will be transported to Athens on board a special Olympic Airways flight arriving at 18:25 at Eleftherios Venizelos Airport. The President of the Republic and the Prime-minister will spend Easter in Yiannena, the PASOK party leader in Patra, the Gen.Secretary of the GCP in Athens while the SYN party President on the island of Tinos. On Holy Saturday morning Prime-minister, K.Karamanlis had a meeting with the Prefect and the mayor of Yiannena and the regional prefect of Epirus. He also met with local officials.





Holy Light Arriving


A special Olympic Airways Tel-Aviv- Athens flight, chartered by the Foreign Ministry will bring the Holy Light, from the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem to Athens today
The plane left for Tel-Aviv at 07:00 on Saturday morning and will return to Athens at 18:25 on the same day where it will be received with state leaders honours.

Holy Sepulcher Metropolitan Bishop, Theofanis, accompanied by Metropolitan Bishops of Diavlia and Alexandropolis, Damaskinos and Anthimos respectively will escort the Holy Light to Athens. Foreign undersecretary, Thodoros Kassimis heads the government delegation, including deputies and local administration officials.

Next, the Holy Light will be sent to all Metropolis and the Alexandria Metropolis on board 16 Olympic Airways regular flights which have been re-scheduled and passengers have been already informed. A military aircraft will transfer the Light to Larissa and a helicopter to the islands of Syros, Kea, Patmos, Leros, and Leipsi.
Olympic Airways administration board apologizes and calls for passengers’ understanding for possible delays in departures.

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User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5066 times:

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Which other airlines do this ??? Do SU/PS/JU/???

None.


What aircraft type did OA use?


Kalo Paska everyone!


Yanni



Fly Olympic - Aviation GREEK STYLE!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27313 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5061 times:

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 1):
What aircraft type did OA use?

B734. Nice to see some traditions still in place but I guess this will die out eventually .

On another note I see Sarbel ( Greek Eurovision entrant ) is flying to Bulgaria and Turkey on OA. They filmed him in the 734 and in the cockpit. They gave him an Olympic Airlines baseball cap !!!! Damn what Id do to get one of those ....


Kalo Pasxa/Xristos Anesti / Xponia Polla

OA260


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5724 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4975 times:

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Olympic Airways administration board apologizes and calls for passengers’ understanding for possible delays in departures.

 rotfl  No wonder OA is going down the loo. Taking scarce resources (an entire 734 in this case) for a media jaunt such as this. Now, Im as Orthodox as the next Greek, but, this is ludicrous IMHO. Why couldnt the Hellenic Air Force fly the light?


Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Kalo Pasxa/Xristos Anesti / Xponia Polla

Alithos Anesti OA...Xronia Polla kai se esena.  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4946 times:

Kali Anastasi! Alithos Anesti!

Although OA is in the crapper, I am proud to have the light. So it was brought to America on OA 412 to JFK i presume? (A340)

Na'ste Kala,

highflyer



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User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4912 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 3):
   No wonder OA is going down the loo. Taking scarce resources (an entire 734 in this case) for a media jaunt such as this. Now, Im as Orthodox as the next Greek, but, this is ludicrous IMHO. Why couldnt the Hellenic Air Force fly the light?

Any good media exposure is good for OA.  yes 

I think OA done a good thing.  bigthumbsup 

Kalo Paska everyone

Yanni



Fly Olympic - Aviation GREEK STYLE!
User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

What a ridiculous waste of resources! I have nothing against a nice ceremony, but using an airliner to carry a flame...


I scratch my head, therefore I am.
User currently offlineAlitis From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

Too bad they still dont have the 747 SX-OAD, "Olympic FLame" around.........

-Alitis


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27313 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4774 times:

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 6):
What a ridiculous waste of resources!

The Greek government paid OA for this so they made money !!!

Quoting Alitis (Reply 7):
Too bad they still dont have the 747 SX-OAD, "Olympic FLame" around.........

Ahhh yes Olympic Flame,Olympic Spirit,Olympic Eagle,Olympic Peace!!!! Those were the days .

I was looking through my photo album the other day and I found these so I though I would scan them ::

They used Olympic Eagle for June 1989 Elections on the LHR-ATH route and I was lucky to be booked on that flight. Sorry for the bad picture quality but I was 14 at the time. Little did I know at that time that 4 years later I would be boarding passengers on the same A/C dressed in an OA uniform!!!






Some other pics but not too sure of dates.


A300 of OA and in the back ground a OA 727 just landing.


A piece of history given to me when they refurbished the OA ticket office in Syros in June 1989 .


User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4694 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Ahhh yes Olympic Flame,Olympic Spirit,Olympic Eagle,Olympic Peace!!!! Those were the days .

You forgot the first OA 747 "Olympic Zeus." Zeus was purchased new from Boeing in 1973, later sold to TWA.
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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Johan Ljungdahl



I enjoyed the pictures!  bigthumbsup  Especially of the 707, my username! My first airplane trip was on an OA 707 in July 1970, JFK-ATH. I don't remember the fuel stop.

Yanni



Fly Olympic - Aviation GREEK STYLE!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27313 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 9):
I enjoyed the pictures! Especially of the 707, my username

Yes I know !!! Why do you think I added that one !!!! Mono yia sena .......

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 9):
You forgot the first OA 747 "Olympic Zeus." Zeus was purchased new from Boeing in 1973, later sold to TWA.

LOL, how could I forget that !!! Cant believe I did that ......

Greeks selling 747's to the Americans !!!! They will be serving Souvlaki in KFC next LOL.....


User currently offlineAlitis From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4604 times:

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 9):
My first airplane trip was on an OA 707 in July 1970, JFK-ATH. I don't remember the fuel stop.

1970 was also my first flight ever...707 jfk-ath-jfk in june also, how funny, but I do remember the fuel stop in Paris. Next flight was in 1973 in one of the 747's and I was sitting in the "Erecthium Zone" . Anybody know which part of the plane that was? A few weeks ago I found a whole bunch of old OA printed timetables, postcards and even a deck of OA playing cards, all in a box in my closet that I almost threw out...almost.

One last comment on flying OA JFK-ATH, you feel like you are already in the "horio" as soon as you get on the plane in JFK, I think you all know what I'm talking about, haha  Smile All in good fun.

-Alitis


User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4588 times:

I don't think it's a waste of resources at all. I would be honored to receive the fos (light - flame) that was lit by the Patriarch! I would one day like to be present for the service in person but, for now, it would be nice to have that light.
Anyway, good move by OA!
Xristos Anesti kai Xronia Polla!!!
Stefanos



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User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Yes I know !!! Why do you think I added that one !!!! Mono yia sena .......

Efharisto!  Big grin

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Greeks selling 747's to the Americans !!!! They will be serving Souvlaki in KFC next LOL.....

Here is Zeus in TWA colors
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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Frank C. Duarte Jr.



Serving Souvlaki in KFC sounds like a good idea! Hell add an order of Mousaka platter!  yes   hyper 


Yanni



Fly Olympic - Aviation GREEK STYLE!
User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

Quoting Alitis (Reply 11):
1970 was also my first flight ever...707 jfk-ath-jfk in june also, how funny, but I do remember the fuel stop in Paris.

I think your correct.

Quoting Alitis (Reply 11):
Next flight was in 1973 in one of the 747's

You flew on "Zeus" when it was brand new!  Smile

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
One last comment on flying OA JFK-ATH, you feel like you are already in the "horio" as soon as you get on the plane in JFK, I think you all know what I'm talking about, haha   All in good fun.

Not anymore. Board a OA A340 in JFK and you will hear Kenny G. boarding music. The old Boeings had Greek music while boarding.


Yanni



Fly Olympic - Aviation GREEK STYLE!
User currently offlineSkyduster From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4523 times:

Olympic was chartered by the Foreign Minsitry, meaning that OA got paid to do this. The question should be, how much did this cost the state...but I doubt it cost much. This really isn't any different from religious ceremonies sanctioned by the state, or by regional and municipal governments, anywhere else in the world. Easter Egg hunts on the White House lawn, and massive Christmas trees at Rockefeller Center are the same type of deal.

I think the question about OA's future is much more pressing than its cultural usefulness at Easter time. I hope I'm not getting off-topic, but OA has failed to reinvent itself, and is not keeping pace with the rest of Greece which is changing rapidly. Its aircraft livery is a bit of an outdated 1970s relic in the beautiful, brand-spanking-new Elefthérios Venizélos airport. The airline's service has improved tremendously since the 1990s, but it seems that the airline is failing to take advantage of this opportunity in order to reinvent its brand. Personally, I would be happy to see the airline let go its logo, livery, and even the name "Olympic," and completely reinvent itself. (And no, I'm not a fan of the proposed "Pantheon Airways." I think that references to mythology are too cliché and whimsy, and that a simpler name like "Aegean Airlines" is much more professional.)

For a succesful succesor to OA, I envision an airline that would increase frequencies between ATH and Middle East (TLV, AMM, CAI, RUH, DXB, and more..), as well as expanding its European network to provide direct leisure service between CFU/RHO/HER/SKG and BUD/BEG/OTP/PRG/WAW/KTW/LED/DME/MXP/FRA/DUS/LHR/CDG/ARN/AMS/MUC/VIE/ZRH/GVA (turning CFU, HER, and RHO into succesful mini-hubs, like Aegean is sort of doing with SKG). Aegean is already on its way to becoming this type of powerful airline, becoming an ever more potent competitor (with flights now from ATH to CAI, as well as direct leisure flights between Italy and Cycladic Islands). First Emirates and now Saudia, Israir, and Gulf Air (and perhaps Etihad?) are stepping in to fill any ATH-MiddleEast void. And a whole army of European charters are doing the leisure routes. And all of this is happening under OA's nose as it contemplates flights to HKG and PEK because of an anticipated surge in tourism arrivals from China (while over 90% of visitors to Greece are EUROPEANS, with eastern and central Europe being the fastest growing segment. Not Chinese. Not Americans. EUROPEANS). I can't say for sure if HKG is a bad business decision, but I would like to see OA overhaul its brand first. For HKG to be a succesful route, won't it have to rely on feeder routes from LHR, CDG, FRA, MAD, MXP, AMS?

Aegean is making the right business moves. OA isn't. It's too bad Aegean's offer to buy OA was declined.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27313 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Quoting Skyduster (Reply 15):
Its aircraft livery is a bit of an outdated 1970s



Quoting Skyduster (Reply 15):
I would be happy to see the airline let go its logo, livery

Totally disagree. The Olympic brand is a strong one its just been mis managed. The livery is classy and timeless. Whats all this obsession to change colours and livery all the time. The name represents everything that is Greek and many Greeks are proud of this. We have had this discussion many many times before. OA just needs to have some good management and modernise also I agree with you on that point but modernising doesnt mean scrapping a good livery and a good name !!! OA blends in very well into the new ATH airport. The service has improved and attitudes have changed for the better. OA's future is in long haul and turning ATH into a proper hub. As you said the infrastructure is there in ATH and it needs to be used. They are at least heading in the right direction but it has been a shame that it didnt happen years ago. I think with a decent management and some proper decisions then it can break even in the next 2 years and then make a healthy profit in 3-4 years.

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 14):
Board a OA A340 in JFK and you will hear Kenny G. boarding music. The old Boeings had Greek music while boarding.

Thats a discrace!!!! Ok time to shut OA down ....LOL.....

The one thing that when I board an Olympic flight is that you are already in Greece and it feels like home and you feel safe.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5724 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
The one thing that when I board an Olympic flight is that you are already in Greece and it feels like home and you feel safe.

Ahhh...anyone down for some dancing in the A340 aisles?  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineSkyduster From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

OA260,

Well, I guess the issue about OA's livery is a subjective one. Personally, I don't think it's right for the airline's future. I'm not saying that OA should change livery often. The current livery is old; it's been there longer than dust. OA should find a new livery and logo that will be timeless for years to come. (And no, I dont think the current livery is timeless, I think it's dated.)

I've been visiting this site for years now and just started posting yesterday ( wave  greetings everyone) ...I am well aware that the white color-schemes (like LH's and AF's) are not very popular around here, but at least they are more "timeless" and fitting (for a major national airline), in my opinion, than OA's outdated livery. The only OA livery I ever liked was the scheme on the 717s. OA's 717s look awesome.

And yes, public sentiment in Greece is in favor of inertia for OA. But that shouldn't stop progress. Since the restoration of democracy in 1975, successive Greek governments (both center-left and center-right) have made quite a few not-so-popular decisions; the Greeks eventually get over it and admit that it was for the better. Case in point, entry into the European Union in 1979 (membership finalized in 1981), and the initially unpopular decision to replace Hellinikon with an new airport in the Mesogeia valley (a controversial idea that was put on the drawing board back in the late 1970s, not for the 2004 Olympics as most people think). And now -controversially- education reform. I think an overhauling of OA should be the next such decision (it's still mostly -if not entirely- owned by the state), as I think that the Greeks deserve a better national airline (that's not spending away their tax money). Quite frankly, I don't like the livery, and I especially don't like the 6 rings and the name "Olympic," both of which are cliché for a Greek-based company. (No, I don't think the airline should have an anglocized name either. It should be a name that's derived from Greek -but NOT from mythology- and at the same time easy for non-Greek speakers to pronounce and remember). I was playing around with my Paintbrush program some months ago and -with my limited computer graphics skills- came up with a cool scheme of my own, if you're intrested to see it via email!  Smile



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User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 17):
Ahhh...anyone down for some dancing in the A340 aisles?   

I think I'll pass. The aisles are too narrow, we might end up being hurt Big grin

Yanni



Fly Olympic - Aviation GREEK STYLE!
User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Totally disagree. The Olympic brand is a strong one its just been mis managed. The livery is classy and timeless. Whats all this obsession to change colours and livery all the time. The name represents everything that is Greek and many Greeks are proud of this. We have had this discussion many many times before. OA just needs to have some good management and modernise also I agree with you on that point but modernising doesnt mean scrapping a good livery and a good name !!! OA blends in very well into the new ATH airport. The service has improved and attitudes have changed for the better. OA's future is in long haul and turning ATH into a proper hub. As you said the infrastructure is there in ATH and it needs to be used. They are at least heading in the right direction but it has been a shame that it didnt happen years ago. I think with a decent management and some proper decisions then it can break even in the next 2 years and then make a healthy profit in 3-4 years.

 checkmark  I agree. The problem with OA besides bad management is that OA needs more planes.  airplane  With the new China route, US, Canada and South Africa, the 4 A340's are not enough especially if OA wants to expand more long haul routes. OA also needs more short haul planes too.



Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
The one thing that when I board an Olympic flight is that you are already in Greece and it feels like home and you feel safe.

I agree. I feel safe because of OA's great safety record.  bigthumbsup 

Yanni



Fly Olympic - Aviation GREEK STYLE!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27313 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Quoting Skyduster (Reply 18):
The current livery is old;

Yes thats why I like it !!! People think that because somethings old it needs to be changed when it does not. OA's current livery is ''new'' its a much lighter blue and modern compared to the original one in the 80's. I like AF and LH liveries by the way .

Quoting Skyduster (Reply 18):
especially don't like the 6 rings and the name "Olympic,"

That is everything that the national airline is famous for. The Olympic Games and the Olympic rings. Thank god they will never change it. If the rings go then it means OA has gone . When you look up in the sky and see those rings you know its OA.

There are so many airlines that look the same these days and they are designed by school children and paid thousands for it . Im a traditionalist and very proud of it, that doesnt mean im against improving things and modernisation within reason and when it warrants it. Maybe thats the Greek part of me. Tradition's a big part of being Greek. We dont sell our souls.

I agree with you about the 717's though they used to look very nice. But you know now they have gone out of the fleet much to my sadness.

Anyway we do not agree on certain things but that is what makes the world go around. Nice to see one of your first posts was a OA one !!! Maybe its a good omen lol.....Welcome / Kalosorisete  Smile


User currently offlineSkyduster From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

Quoting Olympic707:
I agree. The problem with OA besides bad management is that OA needs more planes. With the new China route, US, Canada and South Africa, the 4 A340's are not enough especially if OA wants to expand more long haul routes.

Won't OA be dropping JNB, before starting this rumored service to HKG? I think I read that on another thread here. And if that's the case, wouldn't it be unwise to drop JNB?

Quoting OA260:
That is everything that the national airline is famous for. The Olympic Games and the Olympic rings.

The airline has nothing to do with the Olympic Games, nor should it...the airline was named after the Olympian gods (and hence, a reference to mythology); it was not named after the Olympic Games, although OA's logo (which supposedly rerpesents the "6 continents") is a bad rip-off of the Olympic Games logo.

The Olympic Games are one of Greece's legacies to the world. The 6 rings of Olympic Airlines are bad Greek cliché, and I don't think that it does the Greek nation any justice. Greece has far too many enduring legacies, and far too many artists, sculptors, authors, playwrights, philosophers, scientists, thinkers, and explorers..Greece has so much more going for it, why should it only be known for one thing? (Olympic Games) And that's the paradox I'm trying to point out here: that this nation which is one of the world's culturally richest civilizations, is misrepresented by a few repetitive clichés. And I think OA is contributing tremendously to this insanity.

But, like you said, we disagree.  Smile

Quoting OA260:
There are so many airlines that look the same these days and they are designed by school children and paid thousands for it

I really need to show you my ideas! I think you'll like them!  Big grin

Quoting OA260:
Nice to see one of your first posts was a OA one !!! Maybe its a good omen lol

Haha, we both want the best, we just envision it in radically different ways. Cheers.  Smile



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User currently offlineJetfan727 From Belgium, joined Dec 2006, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 20):
the 4 A340's are not enough especially if OA wants to expand more long haul routes. OA also needs more short haul planes too

This is a situation which has been recurrent for a long time. They cannot take on Aegean if they do not renew the fleet. They have a constant shortage of planes which they try to hastily solve each year by leasing almost whatever they can grab. Not cost efficient, not good for the already quite tarnsihed image...
I would think of a short-haul mix of mainly A319s/320s + a couple of A321s, to get rid of all the ageing 734s. As well as some two or three A330-200s to support the long haul new routes. A32xs would be looking smart with the rings on their tail
Oh yes, and they need to finally focus on ONE livery all over the fleet....whatever they chose.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27313 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4199 times:

Quoting Skyduster (Reply 22):
I really need to show you my ideas! I think you'll like them!

Perimeno!!!! Show me


25 Post contains images Olympic707 : Agreed, some A318 would not hurt, for serving smaller airports on the main land. The A340 would be a better fit because OA has them in the fleet now.
26 WesternA318 : All those are great ideas, but I would think it would be easier for OA to have a narrowbody fleet of 737-700/-800/-900ER and the widebodies to be A340
27 Post contains images Olympic707 : That will work too. It all depends on what deals OA can get. In the old days OA was an Boeing customer. Politics play into the decision on what aircr
28 OA260 : I think that OA should go for an all Airbus fleet. A320's A340's and then maybe in time the A350XWB . I just think it will be easier to maintain one f
29 Alitis : Granted I've only been in coach but OA's 340's in coach are anything but comfortable. I'm 6'1" and had the displeasure of finding out that the IFE bo
30 Post contains images Olympic707 : That is another option, acquiring some 747's and name one of them "Zeus" Yanni
31 OA260 : I was in coach too but then im only 5''7 and it was fine. Alot of airlines have that box thing under the seat. Yes your too tall!!! But ideal for the
32 Post contains images USADreamliner : Are you talking about the Holy Light or Olympic?
33 Post contains images OA260 : HAHA ...USADreambuster could be both but I hope not !!!
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