ThaiA345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 888 posts, RR: 15 Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5308 times:
Taken from GA's Website
"Garuda Indonesia to Add 25 New Aircraft Starting 2009 In an important step to support its business expansion and upgrade its service, Garuda Indonesia plans to bring in 25 new Boeing 737-800 Next Generation (B-737-NG) aircraft, which it has ordered from The Boeing Company.
These planes will join Garuda Indonesia fleet in several stages: eight units in May - December 2009, ten in January – October 2010, five in August – December 2011, and two in January – February 2012.
In addition, ten Boeing 787 series 8 (B787-8) Dreamliner aircraft which the Boeing Company began producing in 2006, will join the fleet starting in 2011. The B-737NG is a modern, sophisticated narrow-body, twin engine aircraft with a body length of 40.68 meters and wingspan of 35.81 meters.
It can fly at a speed of 0.79 mach, faster than the Classic B-737, which can only reach 0.74 mach. The B-737NG can also fly at elevations up to 41.000 feet, and has a maximum take-off weight of 79,015 kg and maximum landing weight of 65,317 kg.
The other new plane, the B-787-8 Dreamliner is a wide body aircraft with the latest state-of- the art technology including a monitoring system that enables the plane to monitor its own maintenance needs and report the automatically to a ground based computer.
This model can reach a speed of 0.85 mach and can fly 8,500 nautical miles (15,700 km) non-stop. It has two engines, a body length of 57 meters, height of 6 meters, and wingspan of 60 meters. The B-787-8 Dreamliner’s body is built from a composite material, making the plane much lighter and therefore 20% more fuel-efficient than other similar sized planes.
The arrival of these new B-737NG and B-787-8 Dream liner aircraft will be constitute the realization of the Garuda Indonesia Fleet Development and Modernization Agreement signed with the Boeing Company on 15 September 2005 in New York City"
Hopefully they won't make the mistake on the B738's they have now which is in a all economy config. Business travellers always travel in J.
As far as I know, GA already signed up with Boeing for the 787's back in 2005. But whether it was an intent or a frim purchase order, I am really not too sure, perhaps HB-IWC can give us some input on this.
Lijnden From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 583 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4705 times:
How is GA doing financially? Their network to Europe and USA is gone now for several years and as far as I understood are most existing international flights still losing money. Domestically Garuda is doing pretty well, which makes me wonder for what routes would they actually use the ordered B787 Dreamliners? I can only think of the following: CGK - USA West Coast. CGK- Europe can also be done with the B777 or A330. Anybody with more info? At least I hope they will come back to AMS...
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AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3523 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4635 times:
Garuda's 787 order remains an intention to purchase- probably with some sort of refundable deposit. It was speculated that it would be cancelled, but the fact that they mention it so recently means its still on the cards and negotiations are ongoing- let us not forget QR's 100 year negotitions with Airbus for A350s (still ongoing) and 777s (recently concluded). Also the fact that Garuda mentions a specific timetable means that talks are perhaps at an advanced stage- I expect a firm order by the end of the 1st 1/2 2007!
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A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10522 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4581 times:
I remember reading in the past GA will restart the AMS route this year (summer?). A friend of mine who works at Schiphol also told me this before. What about TG plans to start AMS flights with the A346? This was also rumoured to start this summer 2007 but I have not heard anything about TG and AMS yet (?).
Depends how you measure this! LF's are certainly high on most routes but debt servicing eats up any revenue as soon as it's earned. I'd like to see GA get back into the long-haul market properly but I remain pessimistic so long as there is so much governmental interference with GA management. Top management changes completely with each new government while too many operational decisions are influenced by political considerations. The same goes for a/c orders which are made, deferred, canceled or renewed on a frequent if unpredictable basis.
HB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4591 posts, RR: 70
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4380 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 10): I remember reading in the past GA will restart the AMS route this year (summer?). A friend of mine who works at Schiphol also told me this before.
I remember discussing that in here about a year ago, based on an article of the Dutch Luchtvaartnieuws. I said at that time that it wouldn't happen, and I'll say it again right now: Garuda will not return to Amsterdam in the near future.