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Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing  
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3874 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7690 times:

This Jet Blue aircraft makes an emergency landing due to the nosewheel being stuck sideways.

Sorry no info on where the clip is from or when it happend

http://www.snutter.no/app/viewMovie.action?id=3396

( Click on the big picture )

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User currently offline707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 583 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7670 times:

Wasn't that the landing at LAX a couple of years back? Very widely covered at the time.

User currently offlineCdekoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7655 times:

That was N536JB at LAX, 9/21/2005.

Link: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0926274/L/

[Edited 2007-04-10 19:06:10]


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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7627 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
This Jet Blue aircraft makes an emergency landing due to the nosewheel being stuck sideways.

Sorry no info on where the clip is from or when it happend

http://www.snutter.no/app/viewMovie.action?id=3396

( Click on the big picture )

Thanks for the sentiment friend... but you are a few months too late. I'm afraid this landing was discussed to death on this forum within the week that it happened.

Mortyman, one thing you should realise about this forum is that if it has to do with aviation... there are probably half a dozen people here who would post it on A.net seconds after it hits the newswires. Running a post race with those people is next to impossible if you have to work or go to school.



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User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7618 times:

Hi Mortyman!

Here is a link:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20050921-0&lang=en

Regards. Tom



Tom from Cologne
User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7579 times:

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 3):
Running a post race with those people is next to impossible if you have to work or go to school.
?? ?? ??

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Sorry no info on where the clip is from or when it happend
Prepare to be viciously flamed for not doing a search or being logged on to A-net 24/7
? ?? ??

Every month or so a new member or someone with a life will ask a seemingly naive question only to be chastised to the very pits of hell for actually having a life and not knowing the contents of every thread that has been posted on A-net for the last 10 years. I have a feeling you are about to become this months victim

[Edited 2007-04-10 19:17:43]

User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7538 times:

Well it was a nice clip anyway  Smile

I've been a member since August, but it's impossible to know about everything that is posted here. I did also check with all the headliners that the system informed about before I posted, but there were no similarities there.

So what do you guys do, stay in bed all day with your laptop ? or do you annoy the hell out of your bosses at work, being logged on to ailrines net all the time ?  Smile


User currently offlineEbs757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 758 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7466 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 6):
I did also check with all the headliners that the system informed about before I posted

This happend two years ago.. what did you expect to find in the headlines? Please do a little more research before posting. Thanks for the clip though



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7456 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 6):
So what do you guys do, stay in bed all day with your laptop ? or do you annoy the hell out of your bosses at work, being logged on to ailrines net all the time ?

Both.. hehehe..

the wonders of a laptop..

the wonders of an understanding boss..

what a wonderful world!



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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1761 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7271 times:
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I have a recording of this from one of the LA tv stations in HD ... absolutely amazing video.

In HD, you can see all the faces peering out of the windows during the LGB flyby, and in some cases, even see the LCD screens on the seatbacks inside (showing the airplane's flyby).

Could have done without the commentary during the landing, however ... the guy's going on and on about how any moment the doors will pop open and everyone will start coming down the slides ... and then almost sounds disappointed when nothing actually happens.

It was, however, an absolutely masterful feat of airmanship, and shows just how well trained the guys up front are.

- litz


User currently offlineBrettbrett21 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7251 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 5):
Every month or so a new member or someone with a life will ask a seemingly naive question only to be chastised to the very pits of hell for actually having a life and not knowing the contents of every thread that has been posted on A-net for the last 10 years. I have a feeling you are about to become this months victim

Hahaha. People seem to have calmed down on screaming at repeat posters which is good. Thanks for posting, if we hadn't seen it it woulda been a great find! Never hurts to be reminded of such an excellent display of piloting as well.



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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7204 times:

I remember seeing some pics of the landing gear after the landing. I seem to have lost them and can't remember if I got them on A-net or through work. Anyone have any links to them. They were rather amazing in that they showed the gear ground down almost up to the landing light.

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7147 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 5):
A-net for the last 10 years. I have a feeling you are about to become this months victim

You should know that the forums haven't existed for 10 years yet! Only 9yrs, 10 months! Gosh! Big grin

Anyway, I like these posts because it brings back something to mind that most of us haven't thought about in a long time. Pretty impressive landing, good thing the nose bogey didn't collapse.

LH423



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6876 times:

Quoting Ebs757 (Reply 7):

Well as I mentioned in my post, I did not know when the clip was from.


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6835 times:

Oh, by the way, the pilot could use some instruction for the pilot in this clip.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsYxlXUzgP8


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6743 times:

Well now that the clip is back up, I have afew questions...

How did the pilots know that the nose wheel was turned at a 90 degree angle? Did they instantly know there was a problem when lowering the nose gear or did ATC spot a problem?

Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?



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User currently offlineMorvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6324 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
How did the pilots know that the nose wheel was turned at a 90 degree angle? Did they instantly know there was a problem when lowering the nose gear or did ATC spot a problem?

I assume with this kind of gear system there would be 2 (or more) sensors giving signals to the cockpit.

1: That the gear is down and locked and 2: that the gear has turned and locked into its final position.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?

Yes, then the wheel would have rolled and forced the airplane to one direction.



have a good day, Stefan van Hierden
User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6053 times:

There are a lot of topics on this JetBlue incident on A.net, so if you want to read/learn more:

Jetblue A320 In Emergeny LGB (by Deltaflyertoo Sep 22 2005 in Civil Aviation)
JetBlue Malfunctioning Nosegear (pics) (by Concentriq Oct 29 2005 in Civil Aviation)
JetBlue N536JB(emergency Landing) Flying Again? (by RootsAir Oct 19 2005 in Civil Aviation)
Jet Blue Landing Audio (by Omoo Oct 1 2005 in Civil Aviation)
Evacuating Airbus A-320 (JetBlue Incident) (by ChiGB1973 Sep 29 2005 in Civil Aviation)
A320 Emergency Good Or Bad Advertising? (by Thaigold Sep 22 2005 in Civil Aviation)
JetBlue Landed With PTVs On (by SafetyDude Sep 22 2005 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineGeorgebush From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 679 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5926 times:

what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle? or can you only lock all the breaks on a 320?


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User currently offlineSanjet From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

I remember someone had a video that a pax took inside the cabin during the landing? Does anyone have a link to that video?


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User currently offlineRomeoDelta From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5450 times:

A little thread drift here...

What is it with JetBlue and nosewheels? Last night a JetBlue flight from BOS to RSW had a nosewheel issue, causing mass panic on board (the crew briefed the pax on emergency procedures at 11,000 ft just prior to landing). Plane landed safely, no issues, but it was big news here in Ft. Myers as journalists love a good story (lots of video of pax crying as they deplaned, worried family members waiting, wild claims of "I thought we were gonna DIE!", the usual stuff).

So the question is, anyone with JetBlue know if there was really a problem, or was it just a misindication? Apparently the issue was repaired, and the plane turned around to JFK within a couple hours. Doesn't sound like anything major, but like I said, it was big news here.


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

Oh, no...
Get ready to be incinerated alive by all the A.Net geniuses...


User currently offlineMorvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5101 times:

Quoting Georgebush (Reply 18):
what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle? or can you only lock all the breaks on a 320?

I dont believe they have brakes on the front gears



have a good day, Stefan van Hierden
User currently offlineSteve332 From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5049 times:

Quoting Morvious (Reply 16):
Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?

Yes, then the wheel would have rolled and forced the airplane to one direction.

I doubt it would have! The tyre would have been completly ripped off in seconds (which it was at 90') at that speed it would be too fast for the aircraft to turn on it so the wheel would never have got the chence to turn the aircraft.

Im no expert but id be suprised if anything other than that would happen. Although correct me if im wrong!  flamed 


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1761 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3737 times:
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Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?

Believe it or not, 90-degrees is actually a designed-in failure mode ... the reason is exactly what you pointed out : you don't WANT the gear canted at an unknown angle.

With it at 90, you KNOW it won't affect the airplanes trajectory on the ground, because you can control that via rudder, and once the rudder control is lost, as long as you're dead-on straight, you'll just slide to a stop.

Which is exactly what the JetBlue airplane did.

- litz


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3690 times:

Quoting Morvious (Reply 22):
Quoting Georgebush (Reply 18):
what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle? or can you only lock all the breaks on a 320?

I dont believe they have brakes on the front gears

Correct, no brakes on that plane type or most other plane types.

Quoting Georgebush (Reply 18):
what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle?

If that happened the pilot might opt for a gear up landing.


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