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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 24700 times:

Continuing on from the other thread since it was taking quite a while to load!

I've not been to MAN recently but I have been told that Level 13 has been resurfaced and the fences have been taken down. Anybody confirm this?

Cheers
Paul


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User currently offlineSpeedbird19 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 449 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 24656 times:

I think it's re-opened now but the TAS shop is now in T1 arrivals and they've pulled the old one down completely. Best place for spotting is the viewing park though to be honest  Smile


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User currently offlineScottieDog From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 24562 times:

Received today from the airport community relations department.

Note the night closure between 3rd-8th June, which wil include Runway redesignation work - as discussed in Manchester News 10.

Hope it helps somebody.

"Please be aware that the forthcoming Nighttime runway 1 closure will commence this evening at 22:15. The runway will be closed every night between 22:15 and 06:00 until the morning of Tuesday 24th April.
This is due to resurfacing and repairs to adjacent taxiways and runway lighting checks. During the stated times, all flights will operate from Runway 2. In the event of bad weather/low visibility, the works may be deferred and Runway 1 will be reinstated. Normal operations will resume at all other times. As always, the prevailing wind conditions will determine in which direction aircraft will take-off and land.


We do apologise for any inconvenience these changes may cause and would like to assure you that the work will be carried out as quickly as possible. These exceptional changes are permitted within the terms of the Planning Permission for Runway 2 and should you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Other planned future closures in 2007:-
· 22:15 hrs on Sunday 3rd June till 06:00 on 8th June (5 nights). Routine maintenance, the annual walking inspection plus Runway re-designation works.
· 22:15 on Sunday 7th October till 06:00 on 12th October (5 nights). Routine maintenance and lighting checks. "


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 24323 times:

Here's another one which appears to have slipped beneath the radar.

Croatia Airlines don't appear to be operating their usual summer schedule to Dubrovnik, Split and Pula. Last year GB Airways operated MAN-DBV, replaced by TOM this year, which explains the loss of OU on that route.


User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 24212 times:

Any news on a replacement MAD service?

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 24137 times:

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 3):
Croatia Airlines don't appear to be operating their usual summer schedule to Dubrovnik, Split and Pula. Last year GB Airways operated MAN-DBV, replaced by TOM this year, which explains the loss of OU on that route.

I guess thats probably down to the tour operators who take a number of seats on the flights - Inghams, Holiday Options and Balkan Holidays. But while they can use TOM to DBV, who will they use to Split and Pula?



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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 23938 times:

Finnair to be handled by Swissport from 14th May.

Mark



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User currently offlineBoeing74741R From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 1184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 23927 times:

Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 1):

I've not heard anything about T1 Level 13 being reopened again, but I haven't been to T1 much since they closed Level 13. The times I have been there a lot of the spotters from upstairs have gathered around tables in the food court landside.

Totally agree the best place for spotting (and in my case photography) is the AVP.


User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 23860 times:

Will this involve a terminal move for AY?

User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 23760 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 5):

I guess thats probably down to the tour operators who take a number of seats on the flights - Inghams, Holiday Options and Balkan Holidays. But while they can use TOM to DBV, who will they use to Split and Pula?

Balkan Holidays have flights on Saturday mornings listed, but the airport website doesn't have a carrier against Pula or Split in the charter services timetable, and there are no scheduled services on the summer timetable (which was released yesterday). It's a mystery.


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23736 times:

A cursory glance at the summer scheduled timetable makes for quite interesting reading (and I can't quite believe I've just said that!) It looks like FCA have gone scheduled, along with many TOM services.

A few highlights.....

FCA are now providing sched. service from MAN to Agadir, Alicante, Almeria, Antalya, Aruba, Banjul, Barbados, Bodrum, Bourgas, Cancun, Chania, Corfu, Dalaman, Faro, Fuerteventura, Funchal, Heraklion, Hualtulco (where?!), Ibiza, Kefalonia, Kos, Lanzarote, Larnaca, Las Palmas, Malaga, Male, Mahon, Monastir, Montego Bay, Mytilene, Nassau, Orlando Sanford, Palma, Paphos, Porlamar, Preveza, Puerto Plata, Puerto Vallarta, Punta Cana, Reus, Rhodes, Salvador, Sharm el Sheik, Skaithos, Taba, Tenerife, Thessalonika, Thira, Varna, Verona, and Zakinthos.

What this means is that MAN has its first ever services to South America (Salvador, Brazil), Mexico, the Bahamas, Aruba, Banjul, and the return of Jamaica services.

A few other points.....

Antwerp and Rotterdam up and running by VLM.
Barcelona now twice daily thanks to Jet2.
Zurich and Basel increase in capacity courtesy of Swiss.
Damascus increased to Tue, Thur and Fri on Syrian 320s.
Jeddah and Riyadh from the 22 June on SV, which also provides the only MAN-GVA service.
Islamabad Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun throughout June, daily from 1 July on Air Blue. This will be successful IMO.
Minsk on Mondays again between 4 July and 3 Sept with Belavia.
Tehran increasing to daily except Mon and Tue.
Tripoli increasing to Wed, Thur and Sun on LN.
Isle of Man BE services operated by 145s - all four daily services, plus a selection of 'villes regionales francaises'.

Dhaka, Bergen, Pula, Split and Madrid have disappeared from the departure boards as we know.

[Edited 2007-04-17 13:43:57]

User currently offlineJonnyWishbone From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23722 times:

It's scheduled, but not as we know it.....

Losing BA Connect has made the whole airport look and feel LOW COST.

You have to look long and hard to find a good service airline in the pages and pages of LS, BE, TOM, FCA, ZB, WW etc etc.

Great if you have a portfolio of properties in a profusion of French regional centres though!


User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23704 times:

Quoting JonnyWishbone (Reply 11):
It's scheduled, but not as we know it.....

Losing BA Connect has made the whole airport look and feel LOW COST.

...and BA Connect was wonderful?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I trust you will deign to continue to use the now utterly downgraded and low rent airport or will you feel out of place with your overpriced full service ticket?

The airport is a SERVICE and provides for passengers using airlines which can make a profit by creating and responding to a given demand. If yours is different and you want to spend x times as much as the majority on transportation, that's your prerogative but you are swimming against the tide. Air travel is no longer the preserve of the rich, famous and those on expense accounts - nor has it been for a good many years.


User currently offlineHarleyf150 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23682 times:

Hi Paul

Level 13 has been reopened i managed to get a shot of the Emirates 777 as it pushed back on April 5th, although within 30 seconds of setting up my tripod i was approached by a policeman and told to leave the area, he told me that due to security reasons you are not allowed to take pictures from the top of the car park especially of the Apron area then when i questioned him about the hundreds of pictures that are on the various websites from this location he didn't have an answer,i didn't tell him that i worked at the airport and that i had my pass with me because i was just curious to hear what he had to say,Level 12 for the time being is still closed due to the ongoing resurfacing

Regards Mike


User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23672 times:

Quoting Harleyf150 (Reply 13):
he told me that due to security reasons you are not allowed to take pictures from the top of the car park especially of the Apron area

Another unthinking jobsworth. I thought you had to have some common sense to be even a lowly constable. Good for you for putting him on the spot and having him justify his misuse of uniform and authority.


User currently offlineJonnyWishbone From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23667 times:

Unfortunately, MAN is no longer the preserve of business travellers who want to go to the following places for a day's business returning that night.

Hanover - gone
Berlin - gone
Madrid - gone
Eindhoven - gone
Rome - gone
Oslo - gone
Geneva - gone unless it's winter

I am sure there are others that can be found!

I'm not a snob, travel with whatever suits my plans best, but i'm sure there are more people like me who miss Manchester as a business airport. I know it's the way the industry is going, but unless you live in London, there are many European destinations can no longer be done in a day. I travel to Berlin and Hanover a lot - two services a day worked well and were usually fairly full. One service a day is no good, so I therefore have to travel via somewhere, so how long will the one a day last?

If I was off on business to Murcia, Faro or that great business hub of Paphos i'd be laughing!!!!


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 23663 times:

Quoting JonnyWishbone (Reply 11):
Losing BA Connect has made the whole airport look and feel LOW COST.

You have to look long and hard to find a good service airline in the pages and pages of LS, BE, TOM, FCA, ZB, WW etc etc.

Great if you have a portfolio of properties in a profusion of French regional centres though!

The 'proper' airlines are still there, if you look amidst the vastly expanded offerings of the low costs. Lufthansa 321s, Air France 320s and SIA 777s are still hoovering up and spewing out business passengers on a regular basis.

I haven't got a problem with LCCs, I rather wish there were more of them at MAN. If you think about how Barcelona's gone Clickair, Madrid's got the FR plague, Dublin's a true LCC hub with FR and EI, Geneva's now largely orange and Dusseldorf is credited with LTU, it's only the very few remaining and big high yielding cities which have any hope of staying purely 'legacy'.........Paris, Frankfurt and London Heathrow, and that's about it.

I prefer to see MAN as the North's answer to LHR, LGW and STN all rolled into one. BA Connect may have looked nice at T3, but as far as I'm aware, not many people ever used them!


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 23651 times:

Quoting JonnyWishbone (Reply 15):
Hanover - gone
Berlin - gone
Madrid - gone
Eindhoven - gone
Rome - gone
Oslo - gone
Geneva - gone unless it's winter

I am sure there are others that can be found!

Point taken, but the loss of these is circumstantial, just at the moment. TXL was never twice daily (was it?). Rome and Oslo are not massive business destinations from MAN, and I agree that MAD's a problem, most likely to be taken on by FR.

Take HAJ as an examle. I'm surprised that BE have retained it, because competition from HLX must have a pretty devastating effect on yields and load (but apparently not enough to scrap it all together).


User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 23643 times:

Quoting JonnyWishbone (Reply 15):
If I was off on business to Murcia, Faro or that great business hub of Paphos i'd be laughing!!!!

Just how many of the list you post could realistically have been destinations for same day return travel for a businessman seeking worthwhile time in front of a customer/supplier at the destinatiion?

Jet2 serve Berlin daily which was the "standard" set by BA from around 1969 when, for over 2 decades, they operated MAN-GLA-MAN-DUS-TXL changed aircraft and flew the reverse schedule.
FlyBe serve Hanover, presumably on a schedule they can sustain.
Madrid will, no doubt in time, be picked up.
Eindhoven is hardly a well served destination from anywhere and unless you have major business with Philips, is relatively unimportant to most airlines - and there is an excellent train service from Schiphol.
Rome is served by Jet2
SAS serve Oslo and Geneva will be served 2x weekly by SVA from June - assuming they have 5th freedom rights.

So the destinations you list have not all "gone" as you make out. You may not be able to fly BA or "pretend" BA but you can get there and back on modern aircraft by reputable airlines.

If you want to blame someone, look to BA and their antecedents who (apart from the period of the 1-11 Division where local management strove to build a European network from Manchester) have done everything in their power to ensure their own traffic was routed through Heathrow and competition on direct routes from Manchester was stifled at every turn - dating back to the days even before the opening of Barton.


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7437 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 23522 times:
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Quoting MainMAN (Reply 10):
Isle of Man BE services operated by 145s - all four daily services, plus a selection of 'villes regionales francaises'

It's now 5 daily on weekdays - they did an unannounced increase in frequency between the acquisition of BACon and stating 4 daily on weekdays on that route and the actual start of combined ops!


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 23450 times:

Quoting Philb (Reply 18):
If you want to blame someone, look to BA and their antecedents who (apart from the period of the 1-11 Division where local management strove to build a European network from Manchester) have done everything in their power to ensure their own traffic was routed through Heathrow and competition on direct routes from Manchester was stifled at every turn

A situation now relegated to the rubbish bin of history. I'm hoping that flybe will enjoy a meteoric rise to be the airline which knows how to serve MAN and BHXs' business communities profitably.

Quoting David_itl (Reply 19):
It's now 5 daily on weekdays - they did an unannounced increase in frequency between the acquisition of BACon and stating 4 daily on weekdays on that route and the actual start of combined ops!

Looking at the timetable, they operate this with one 145 - or potentially could do so. And I bet they make money out of it too. The flybe fleet replacement at MAN will be worth waiting for. I know it's officially done and dusted, but will IOM, DUS, BRU and FRA etc really become operated by props?

There must be several new opportunities presenting themselves to flybe at Manchester right now. Split and Pula to name but two!


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 23437 times:

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 20):
The flybe fleet replacement at MAN will be worth waiting for.

Indeed! My first flight that used to be flown by BA is going to be this weekend and apparently the aircraft isn't even going to be Flybe let alone G- registered. It's going to be flown by WDL Aviation of Germany! Who? Big grin

Apparently it's a BAE146-200 for SOU-MAN but still, who? Oh well....



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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 23419 times:

I wonder if the BA aircraft will ever get any FlyBe titles on them, or even full livery? It looks weird seeing them in full BA livery, and the cabin crew in FlyBe red.

Mark



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7437 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 23398 times:
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Quoting Myt332 (Reply 21):
WDL Aviation of Germany! Who?

An airline that has stepped into the breach for BACon/BACitiExpress on a few occasions!

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 20):
but will IOM, DUS, BRU and FRA etc really become operated by props

IOM is a natural route for DHC8-4s but whether we'll see it still at 5 daily weekday is a moot point as that would be the equivalent of operating E145s about 8 times a day! So that's one route which I can see dropping to 4 daily.

We've already seen quite a few services to CDG operated by DHC8-4s. I imagine that fuel burn will be lesser than the E145 so that should improve the profitability of those routes and then throw in an extra 20 to 25 seats to fill and BE will be "laughing all the way to the bank".

But the big question is how many E195s will be based here, and on what routes? I can possibly see what the tentative plans for the to-be-based aircraft will fly: perhaps 1 CDG service, 1 MXP service and even BHD having 1 or 2 flights a day with it.


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 23381 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 21):
Apparently it's a BAE146-200 for SOU-MAN but still, who? Oh well....

WDL Aviation of what??!! Who's that then? You'll soon find out.  Wink

On the online MAN timetable, one of BE's daily SOU-MAN-SOU services is listed as being flown by a Fokker 100. I can't imagine what that means........!

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 22):
I wonder if the BA aircraft will ever get any FlyBe titles on them, or even full livery?

I went to the AVP last week for the first time in months basically to have a look at the new BE fleet. I was a bit taken aback at the sheer number of BA 145s and DH8s arriving (talk about false advertising!!!).........I reckon they'll be left in BA colours until the end of the summer season, or whenever they're finally replaced.


25 MainMAN : This......I didn't know. The fare paying public don't expect a DHC8-4 when flying to Paris. What precise affect this has on its long term success rem
26 JonnyWishbone : GREAT! I'll queue in T2 with the other 3000 people in an Emirates style, just get the flight by the skin of my teeth, get to GVA, do my day's work an
27 Philb : Instead of sarcasm at my full and accurate reply to your erroneous post on services, an answer to my question might have been interesting. Unfortunat
28 Ryan h : Do Balkan Holidays still send their TU 154s to MAN?. Also do many A318s fly there?.[Edited 2007-04-18 10:37:46]
29 Speedbird19 : AF fly their 318's in quite frequently on their daily services to CDG.
30 Ryan h : Thanks Speedbird19, the A318 is the only airbus I have not seen.
31 Boeing74741R : I can second Speedbird19, I've seen various AF A320 family aircraft at MAN The flights to look out for A318s are AF1669/AF2569 and AF1169 to CDG. The
32 ScottieDog : Recently there appear to have been a number of negative posts with regards to services from Manchester - some warranted and others probably not. I tho
33 Post contains images TuRbUleNc3 : Probably D-AMAJ
34 MainMAN : Scottiedog - there's a lot to be pleased about in the performance of many of MAN's routes. As a European regional non-hub city, it's very well connect
35 Myt332 : Which used to smile at PSA back in the day, mmm, used aeroplane goodness! Now this is proper hearsay but I was having a few beers and vodkas at 'The
36 Philb : Had the airlines been able to develop services over the last half century and more without government and "national flag carrier" interference, the n
37 GayrugbyMAN : The first 195 arrives at MAN in September and will operate MAN - BRU initially.
38 Post contains links and images Oly720man : Seen from my back garden... F-GUGN on the AFR 2268/9 7/4/07 (it also did the early morning flight 1668/9) http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/apr07schedu
39 GayrugbyMAN : On a email from MAN received today, under new routes it list Jet2 MAN - Brussels.
40 Cornish : I understand that MAN is one of three airports still in the running for EI's first base outside the Republic. Would be interesting to see what they wi
41 Post contains links Oly720man : They almost had a base in MAN in the 70's as they flew BAC-111 on DUB-MAN-Europe routes. What are the other airports in the running? Belfast - http:/
42 GayrugbyMAN : Where else is there for an airline like Aer Lingus to fly to from MAN? Sunshine routes seem pretty covered, business centres in Europe look more or le
43 Post contains images Cornish : Now that would be telling
44 Post contains images Cornish : I don't understand why you would not want a carrier like EI at the airport. MAN needs carriers that will bring in extra revenue to boost the airport
45 Philb : In the 1950s and 1960s Manchester was all but a base for Aer Lingus as, until BEA managed to have their fifth freedom rights removed, Aer Lingus's en
46 Humberside : I agree the likes of ALC and AGP probably wouldnt be the best idea from MAN competing against TOM scheduled, ZB, LS and WW plus the charters, but if
47 Post contains images BlueShamu330s : As it seems to be for most of the indigenous population of Eire on a Man United home fixture !!! Shamu ps to Philb....Mersey has more class than the
48 MainMAN : I had this too, I think it's a mistake and perhaps they meant to say 'Prague'.
49 Philb : When we moved into Carlton Rd in 1956 the GPO had the address as Heaton Mersey. Most people in the road wanted the address to be Heaton Moor as it ha
50 Boysteve : The Moor Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
51 Post contains images BlueShamu330s : Oh bugger off and go back to your Smirnoff Ice in the 'Lizzie !!! I think Philb would feel quite at home in Cassidy's, mind you The Crown is more lik
52 GayrugbyMAN : Heaton Moor is Manchester's answer to San Francisco's Castro district.....aparently!
53 Philb : Heaton Mersey Park used to be an ideal spotting point on days when there wasn't the time to cycle to Ringway. It was a good place to get excellent vie
54 Post contains images BlueShamu330s : It's not until you cycle the A34 to Heald Green that you realise it's really one very long, tiring hill climb (atleast it seemed to be as a kid). Hea
55 Philb : We used to be allowed to cycle to Ringway from the age of 9 going on 10. The trip to Parrs Wood was easy and on to Cheadle wasn't too bad (no Kingswa
56 BMED : Does anyone know any more about bmi regional flying MAN-SOU or was that nothing in the end?
57 ScottieDog : Delayed until September is the last I heard Scottiedog
58 GayrugbyMAN : Any info on football charters for the AC Milan Man Utd game next week?
59 Jetset7E7 : Ringway Reports is showing 2 Air Itlay 757's doing 5 flights each over Tuesday and Wednesday, Blue Panorama 763, Neos 738, Livingston A321. No doubt
60 GayrugbyMAN : The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has published a statement on the future regulation of Manchester Airport, setting out a number of options for consu
61 Gooner : Just read on the BBC/Wales website Air Southwest are ending their MAN-CWL service in June
62 Sammyb : Does anybody think Manchester will ever get a Bangkok service?
63 Pieinthesky : Maybe. TG actually said 18 months ago they were looking to start a service to MAN when they received 'suitable aircraft', which basically meant the 2
64 MainMAN : Eventually, yes probably. And a Hong Kong service. At the moment I'm scratching my head a bit at what's going on at MAN and BHX in terms of the lack
65 MANmatt : Mahan Airlines are to increase their IKA-MAN-IKA flights to 5 weekly flights starting 27th June. Flights will operate every day except monday and tues
66 HUYfan : Does anyone else think that Bangkok Airways would be the perfect carrier for MAN-BKK? They have A350s on order, and they are primarily a leisure airli
67 Cornish : ...and apparently stopping their BHX flights. Perhaps this accounts for the MAN increase?
68 GayrugbyMAN : So who's the new Madrid service rumoured to be announced shortly going to be operated by?
69 MANmatt : Yeh, their BHX flights have supposedily stopped already which is why they are increasing their flights to MAN.
70 MainMAN : One of several airlines (or do you know?) FR have talked about the need to expand into more primary airports in future. Whoever it is will have to wa
71 ScottieDog : New tower for Manchester? At the back end of last year there was mention, at 'an aviation society' meeting, of Manchester looking to build a new tower
72 777way : MASkargo and Dragon Air Cargo have quit MAN.
73 Daleaholic : Dragonair? or Dragon Air? Seems odd if it is Dragonair... don't they fly out of MAN twice a day?
74 MANmatt : MASkargo quit years ago mate! Dragonair Cargo flights are now operated by CX Cargo who fly HKG-MAN twice daily since they bought Dragonair Cargo out.
75 GayrugbyMAN : Finnair are now using T1 at Manchester and are being handled by Swissport.
76 Boeing74741R : Does anybody know what the situation was with G-WWBD today at MAN? I was at the very wet AVP today when I came out to see fire engines by it. It was c
77 Post contains links Vinniewinnie : is this mistake confirmed? As per CAA ( http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/5/ergdocs/manchester_policy_jan07.pdf): "During 2006, there have been a number of s
78 Jetset7E7 : I don't know the real reason, but it certainly didn't take off!!! It taxied back to stand under the power of one engine, and with fire service follow
79 Post contains images Boeing74741R : My bad about stating it took off late. I was getting confused.
80 Ryanair737 : For anyone in the know are the runway assignment changes still aimed for the 7th June to 05L/23R and 05R/23L? Ta
81 Londoncenter : The runway change is still scheduled for 0001Z on the 7th June. Think there are going to be a lot of transmissions by us at air traffic requiring a "
82 Ryanair737 : Thanks for the info. Ha yes, it was the same when the approach frequency was changed from 119.525 which it had been for years to 135.0, caused a lot
83 Post contains images David_itl : Provisional CAA stats for April show the Flybe/BAConnect effect: No more MADMAN routes MXP with a sharp drop in passenger numbers (down 7500!). Brest
84 Londoncenter : The change is part of a trial at the moment of using what was the approach north frequency. As the two approach sectors spend most of the time operat
85 GayrugbyMAN : I know several BA gold card holders who regularly used BA and then BACON from MAN who now won't touch BE with a bargepole. The problem is reliability,
86 Speedbird19 : Rather snobbish in my opinion, they're the same aircraft and mostly ex BACON crew so what's the problem? LS aint exactly "gormet" in service terms ei
87 Boeing74741R : Yes but Jet2 have a better reputation. You could put all this down to teething troubles following the integration of BACON into BE so I'd give it mor
88 Post contains images JonnyWishbone : Well i'm one and now started using LH via FRA and damned fine they are too... Going for Gold in Star now and even found Bmi good from LHR on the way
89 MainMAN : Just like BHX, these figures make rather depressing reading, but unlike at BHX, they don't try to insult our intelligence by blaming unusually sunny
90 Philb : Had A.Net been around when BA's predecessors took action which had a deliterious effect on passenger figures at MAN, i,e, BOAC forcing SABENA off the
91 Stirling : Mexico's Pacific coast. Bliss.
92 GayrugbyMAN : Looks like a delivery for OA is passing thru MAN tonight from MIA, OA418. Anyone know anymore?
93 Oly720man : Flightaware has it as B717, Goose Bay to Keflavik, eta KEF 4.50pm. SX-BOA on mantma2 group.
94 Boysteve : This mornings BA2901 MAN-LGW was 10 minutes late pushing back as breakfast had not ben delivered on time! Departure is scheduled for 06:25 but the Alp
95 David_itl : Flybe fleet update: At least 1 ERJ145 now displays their titles. LAst weeks order for 15 DHC8 (+15 options) is to replace the ERJ145s; this weeks Flig
96 Mhodgson : Almost certainly - MAN will charge BA for the delay, and so BA will certainly want to pass that cost on to someone else!
97 GayrugbyMAN : Nice to see LS doing well on the new routes: CDG and PRG doing amazingly well, BCN getting off to a bit of a slow start and SXF also looks like a winn
98 GayrugbyMAN : The airport has agreed a deal with Premier Travel Inn to build a seven-storey, 168-bed hotel just off junction six of the M56, near the airport. The n
99 Ryanair737 : I'm not surprised the timings are absolutely dreadful! 19:40 arriving in BCN at 23:10 and coming back 23:50 arriving at MAN at 01:20. I know who I'd
100 David_itl : EI have stated that the ORK-MAN route started this summer has been extended into the winter...so the 3 or 4 month break in operations coming up must m
101 Post contains images BlueShamu330s : That's even too late for GayRugbyMan to get the last train to SItges !! Shamu
102 GayrugbyMAN : If you are on time and you spront, you can just about make the connection at El Prat!!
103 BlueShamu330s : Spront ??!! Very true, though just missed the last Airport train departure last week to El Prat, which also happens to be after the last bus. Ended u
104 GayrugbyMAN : I put my money on LS or ZB taking on the route, not daily, probably SUN,MON,THU,FRI? Am not sure a 737 or a 320 could sustain a daily service.
105 Candid76 : MAD is different from other Spanish markets as it relies on connecting traffic through Iberia's hub, which really makes Iberia or more likely Click wi
106 Jetset7E7 : ZB tried it last summer, and it wasn't a very big hit, lasted about as long as the NAP did, the MAD had really low loads on the A320. Mark
107 Post contains images Cornish : with more and more villa complexes springing up in newparts of Spain then the LCCs will be there to cater for them. I see MAD-MAN as a Click market i
108 Cornish : news a couple of weeks old that i forgot to mention (and I haven't seen it above - apolgies if i missed it) but Aero Asia, who had ambitions to fly to
109 GayrugbyMAN : Air Blue commece 4 times a week MAN ISB from 1st June I think. Flight via Ankara for refueling.
110 Candid76 : This illustrates my point. As a comparism if Lufthansa only offered Frankfurt and Qatar only offered Doha (i.e. with no onward connections) what woul
111 Cornish : Ah that's the one. I give it one season - at most...
112 Brymon : I agree - it would definately work better with a twice daily service. BA used to get a fair bit of connecting traffic for IB services. Any morning se
113 GayrugbyMAN : Would probably work if they did a night stop routing, a la Portugalia used to. Thinking outside the box.....what about an extension to a South America
114 Post contains images Cornish : This has all the hallmarks of yet another rumour springing from the MAN management approaching airlines and trying to sell a route opportunity than a
115 A340600MAN : Just a quick question. When did Portugalia actually move away from Manchester and why? Is there a prospect of them coming back at some point in the f
116 Ryanair737 : A combination of poor loads caused by lack of demand and high fares, Ryanair opening up OPO from LPL didn't help too. Thomsonfly have taken over the
117 GayrugbyMAN : It was something to do with using the F100 on an AF/TP codeshare route like Lyon/ Paris - Porto where it was considered to be more financially lucrati
118 Cornish : Well given the purchase of 98% of them by TAP Air Portugal, there is more of a question mark of whether Portugalia will exist at all in the future or
119 Boeing74741R : That combined with the fact that FAO being well served as it is means that the three primary airports in Portugal are catered for from the North-West
120 David_itl : Even though talk of this service has come from the airline itself? They've notr mentioned if it was going to be a through route or a tag-on to an exi
121 Findingnema : This Easter I went to a tourism conference in Barcelona and got speaking with some of the management and representatives from vueling, practically be
122 Cornish : Really ? do you have a source for this? I'd be interested to see it. good for MAN if they do launch it, but I'd be surprised to see it actually start
123 GayrugbyMAN : I understand the KU proposal is to start later this year. Not sure how advanced the talks are though. Extensive media coverage on local BBC Radio Manc
124 ScottieDog : From the BBC website Passengers want security "over with", the airport says Manchester Airport's Terminal 1 is to get a £35m overhaul - based on the
125 Post contains images Cornish : Ha Ha - I like the way they word all this when what they really mean to say is "we want passengers in a captive airside environment as quickly as pos
126 Boeing74741R : When the T1 redevelopment is complete it will remind me a lot of how some Spanish airports, such as LPA, AGP and MAH are like; where security is right
127 GayrugbyMAN : What a nice sight FHSEX made at MAN today, a rare sight to see a 747-400 at T1, all blue and gleaming. Arrived yesterday from ORY.
128 Post contains links David_itl : http://www.arabianbusiness.com/index...n=com_content&view=article&id=9302 "According to the airline's sales and marketing director, Ahmed Al-Hilal, K
129 Boysteve : I can imagine that this could be fairly easy to achieve. The main concourse to T1, behind check in and overlooking the airfield, becoming 'behind sec
130 Cornish : Thanks for that. I'm not quite sure how they're going to compete successfully with their Gulf rivals but good for MAN if it comes off.
131 GayrugbyMAN : ItWhat are connections through KWI like?
132 Cornish : Not a patch on DXB, AUH or DOH. Nowhere that wouldn't be better served through one of those three points. I guess they'll aim for some of the Pakista
133 MainMAN : I'm going to Paris in a few weeks and I dug out my most recent guide book, from the last time I was there as a teenager in 1987 (oh no! 20 years ago!!
134 Cornish : Something the Ryanair and LCC haters of this world should bear in mind next time they are moaning about them. How things have changed in the UK in 20
135 Candid76 : Surely though if the likes of Syrian and Mahan can make it work then Kuwait can? MAN seems to succeed better with these obscure airlines than the lik
136 MainMAN : I seem to remember that the ticket I booked in 1987 was under £100, which says a lot about what's happened to air travel since then (even with low i
137 Cornish : Well Syrian and Mahan have much larger local domestic populations than Kuwait, but Kuwait has more wealth of course. Maybe there's enough Kuwaiti dem
138 Myt332 : Does MAN have a permanent police presence patrolling departures nowadays? When I arrived from LGW the other day I was waiting for my pickup to arrive
139 Philb : Greater Manchester Police provide the policing at MAN. All officers are provided from the Special Operations Branch. If you break the rules you pay th
140 MainMAN : That's completely outrageous. The only way a GMP copper can make such a big deal about threatening 3 points and a fine is if you either stop on a dou
141 GayrugbyMAN : MAplc's plan, as I understand it, is for T3 to become the focus for all loco's in the next few years, and fr full service carriers such as AA and BD
142 GayrugbyMAN : ACE flights announced for winter by LS.
143 GayrugbyMAN : LPA also announced by LS for winter in last few mintes.
144 Candid76 : What days? LPA is a useful winter spotting destination which I've fancied for some time but I've noticed that the lo-cos seem to be offering just a c
145 GayrugbyMAN : VLM have pulled the LPL to LCY route, perhaps more routes from MAN (LDY has been rumoured) may come as a result.
146 Speedbird19 : tbh that doesn't come as a suprise at all, VLM flying from both MAN and LPL to LCY is like having EZY flying from MAN and LPL at the same time, its n
147 USAIRA330 : considering the number of low cost airlines serving MAN, is T3 big enough. also how cheesed off would BD be if they were moved back to T1 after movin
148 GayrugbyMAN : T1 is to become a 'retail paradise' with new lounges, a rebuilt B pier and new scurity area, compared to T3, it will be a far more attractive option
149 David_itl : I hope that the MAN-ANR and MAN-RTM services are enjoying better success than the LCY-LPL route! Not necessarily. easyJet will continue to look at MA
150 Ferengi80 : I'm curious, why are the runways at MAN being reassigned? They have been 06LR and 24LR for as long as I can remember. I know the number correlates to
151 David_itl : all it need for the runway designation to change is the runway headings to alter from 235 degress to 234 degrees - the runways are based on the headi
152 Philb : Because the magnetic north shifts and runway headings change with the movement. There is an international convention regarding at which point runway
153 Philb : Liverpool has never been able to sustain a profitable link fto any London airport for any airline over the last 55 years.
154 Ferengi80 : Thanks for the explanation. Now I know why I was never any good at physics!!!
155 A340313X : Does anyone have a list (or could anyone make one) of the routes cancelled or reduced due to various circumstances recently?
156 Boeing74741R : I'm not surprised they've pulled it, considering that the sensible option between Liverpool (and Manchester) and London these days is to take the tra
157 David_itl : I'm sure Air Berlin's highly delighted that you left them out! Flybe/BAConnect: pulled = ABZ, MAD. GVA (though I think this will be back for the wint
158 GayrugbyMAN : Really? Fron when?
159 MainMAN : From tomorrow apparently. Passengers directed now on SK via CPH. Not doing very well to the Baltics are we?
160 Post contains links Oly720man : Air Blue must be popular. Going 5x a week (new thursday flight) from 28th June. http://www.pakistantimes.net/2007/05/26/top5.htm
161 Philb : " target=_blank>http://www.pakistantimes.net/2007/05...5.htm
162 GayrugbyMAN : ED to be handled by SAS
163 GayrugbyMAN : MH are apparently looking a possibly restarting their MAN - KUL route, once they have secured some extra longhaul aircraft that they are currently loo
164 Borat : G-WWBD had a #1 engine change the night before. On test run no EPR info was been reported to EICAM from the new powerplant. The aircraft came back to
165 Pieinthesky : Where do you get these from ?. MH looking for extra longhaul aircraft ??. MH are currently DOWNSIZING their longhaul fleet (SQ are taking 2 of their
166 GayrugbyMAN : Looks like MAN may have missed out to STN on the Air Asia X service to Malaysia.
167 Post contains links GayrugbyMAN : http://www.airasia.com/site/en/page.jsp?reference=aax No mention of MAN here, but STN is listed.
168 MainMAN : That route map has been online for months. It's more of a representation of where they might fly.
169 Post contains images Sammyb : MAN always misses out, its not fair.
170 Post contains images Boeing74741R : That's exactly what I was thinking Oh well, life goes on!
171 Col : MAN is still on the route Map???
172 Oly720man : Always? MAN's recently seen the start of Great Wall, soon to see AirBlue and Saudia. It's not all gloom.
173 GayrugbyMAN : It's not all rosy either, apart from Jeddah, Brest, La Rochelle and Rennes, I am not sure there are any new scheduled destinations at all this summer.
174 Post contains images Col : I think the PAX numbers say it all. Look at the comparable flights from MAN and LPL, LPL are winning hands down, wonder why LCC
175 Philb : Which flights are you comparing? London City for instance, and what figures can you quote? If you mean pax growth rate - a totally different thing. C
176 Col : Don't believe London City shows a true picture!!! Take it anyway you like, PAX number growth or individual route growth. Look at the CAA figures, som
177 David_itl : It'd be a bit difficult for MAN-BSL on a 3 weekly RJ100 basis to outperform a daily A319 operated by U2 on LPL-BSL!?!? For all we know, the margins fo
178 Philb : You are comparing apples and pears. The routes you show above are operated by larger equipment ex LPL at bargain basement fares and are attracting th
179 Col : Not quite, I am comparing Airports and PAX figures, these seem like people to people. Don't disagree, BA is the main cause of MAN, BHX and to a lesse
180 MainMAN : I don't think BA has helped but to my mind the main cause of lack of growth at MAN, BHX and LHR is STN, LTN, LPL, LBA, DSA and although not wanting t
181 Boysteve : SQ's website shows a daily B772 from 1st November 2007.
182 Boysteve : MainMAN you beat me to it!
183 Post contains images MainMAN : Any advance on the 26th October anyone? Whether SQ's daily MAN-SIN is in place for the peak travelling down under season, and reverts back to 5 a wee
184 Philb : What you are looking at are growth figures which are skewed by two factors:- BA's rundown of direct services from the provinces to Europe - which was
185 Pieinthesky : The daily flights from Winter have been loaded into the system for months. This will stay at a daily 772 into next summer and going forward for the f
186 Col : Use MAN about once per month, will arrive this Sunday. I have used (LCC's) Jet2 (Good), Ryanair (Good) and BMI Baby (Not Good) out of MAN, and Easyje
187 Candid76 : I agree quite strongly with this point. It's an issue for the whole LCC bandwagon which I think will hit them harder than they think, particularly if
188 Philb : Many of Manchester's historic slowdowns have been entirely due to BA and its predecessors imposing.(through the old regulatory process) unfair disadva
189 Post contains images Col : Phil, is this 0.4% per annum . I am not sure who Geoff Muirhead is, but I would not put money on his prediction for the Kentucky Derby. The same was
190 Humberside : FR are increasing SNN to 6 times a week, in what appears to be an attack on Aer Arann at Galway
191 Post contains images MainMAN : Col, I tend to think of MAN's passenger figures as a re-adjustment of the market, to a more level playing field where there's room in the North for mo
192 Col : MainMAN, Loved the Jamaica article. Stopped using BA a long time ago, got sick of loosing baggage at LHR. Good luck VS. Col
193 Philb : Well you'd lose out. Geoff Muirhead: The Manchester Airports Group, Group Chief Executive 2001 - Appointed Group Chief Executive, The Manchester Airp
194 Candid76 : Maybe it was but the US market is very different. The vast majority of pax using LCCs from the North West are outbound leisure passengers. I'm not su
195 David_itl : How about some of the same for ABZ? Seems strange that BD operate 6 weekdaily Barbiejet profitably but BAConnect couldn't get a 3 weekdaily DHC8 serv
196 Col : Good to see MAN has a great leader at the helm. Hopefully he can take the airport back to where it used to be under Gil Thompson (think that was his
197 Boeing74741R : I know easyJet pulled the ZRH route, but that was when U2 pulled out of there altogether. Having said that it isn't really a far comparison between th
198 DptMAN : BD had the advantage of connecting services from the USA, mainly ORD and also ABZ passengers flying onto the Caribean and Las Vegas. Where as BA only
199 ScottieDog : Not seen this officially announced by the airline, but I understand Air China plan to commence PVG-MAN cargo service on a 3 times weekly basis with ef
200 Philb : Sir Gil Thompson who, ironically was ex BA, was a personal friend of mine for many years when I was in Manchester and did a marvellous job for Manche
201 Post contains links and images Kiwiandrew : http://www.atwonline.com/news/other.html?issueDate=6/1/2007 Air New Zealand CEO Rob Fyfe said the airline intends to "open one new long-haul destinati
202 GayrugbyMAN : Hate to be cynical but whether it is ANZ or Thai CEOs chirruping on about services to MAN, we have heard it all before for many, many year now! Still
203 GayrugbyMAN : Any news on other new Jet2 routes for the winter? ACE and LPA already announced, will the WAW finally take off this winter? MAN also now needs a RIX,
204 GayrugbyMAN : Worth a visit is the 'Terminal 1 Experience', an exhibiton on the 1st flooe of the GTI building showcasing the T1 redevelopment with a full scaled dow
205 Post contains links Umzy : MANCHESTER Airport is to renumber its runways, because of changes in the position of the magnetic North Pole. The two runways have a number at each en
206 Post contains images Raventom : I was listening to my scanner around 2350Z last night and i thought the pilot had made a mistake saying 05R and the controller was going along with th
207 ScottieDog : Had a walk up to the airport last night and could not find the exhibition - do I presume that the GTI is the Ground Transport Interchange - aka The S
208 Zkojh : 'QUOTE' gayrugbyMAN Hate to be cynical but whether it is ANZ or Thai CEOs chirruping on about services to MAN, we have heard it all before for many, m
209 DptMAN : Wouldn't a MAN to Australia sevice via an Asian city make more sence than services to New Zealand? I know EK and SQ have saturated the market for pass
210 GayrugbyMAN : Dare GSM bite the bullet and head east and maybe downunder? Surely BKK at a start would do well?
211 David_itl : Be a little patient - we may have the Jetstar 787 service in 2011, though I really doubt QF/Jetstar would want to wait that long as SQ/QR/EY/EK will
212 GayrugbyMAN : What is LS' winter schedule looking like? Any increases or decreases in service?
213 GayrugbyMAN : Hoardiings down opposite gate 20 in T1 tp reveal very swish new bar and escalators and stairs up to new food court.
214 DptMAN : I would really like to see LS launch a MUC flight for the winter schedule even if 3 or 4/x Weekly. LH flights are prety much always full, well on the
215 Jetset7E7 : Anyone who wants to the last Runway 06 departure and arrival, and first Runway 05 arrival and departure, I have them here, as I was wondering what the
216 GayrugbyMAN : Well from the figures I have seen SXF is doing well for LS and DUS too from LBA, so maybe the German market wouldn't be a bad one to get in to further
217 Post contains links and images Daleaholic : This picture found on MAN's website. T1 Revamp Looks very futuristic. Exactly what Terminal 1 needs!
218 Pieinthesky : An already saturdated market I'm afraid. SQ, EK and later EY and QR will have one stops to SYD from MAN. MH used to also have a one stop but sadly pu
219 GayrugbyMAN : To work via an unexploitws market, a service would either have to pass through the USA or China.
220 Cornish : and given the hassle of transiting through the US, why would anyone go that way when its so much easier through the Middle and Far East? as for China
221 GayrugbyMAN : How are the MYT flights to Sanya doing? Anyone know?
222 GayrugbyMAN : Reports on another forum mention some 'announcement' expected this week about 'several Asian cities'. What is it all about?
223 Cornish : I've heard talk about yet another new airline venture planned by UK businessmen to serve the Indian subcontinent due to be announced. The intention i
224 GayrugbyMAN : *YAWN* Another Global Spirit, Backpackers Xpress blah blah. Oh well, thought it was sopmething exciting for a minute!
225 Post contains links Cornish : This was the airline I'd heard about, Air Sylhet....... http://www.travelindustrydeals.com/news/3234 I'll believe it actually happening when I see it
226 Post contains links GayrugbyMAN : www.airsylhet.com Well their wensite looks promising, but as you say, until it touches the tarmac....
227 Cornish : The website looks hilarious to me if you look in more detail. Still its clear from it that they are still looking for an awful lot of money to get it
228 Post contains links Oly720man : Don't forget Royal Bengal as well http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/busine...nch_manchester_to_dhaka_link_.html http://www.royalbengalairline.com/home
229 GayrugbyMAN : Some handy Casio keyboad work on that Royal Behgal website, hilarious!
230 GayrugbyMAN : Where can the latest CAA figures for MAN be found? Would be interested to see how BE are doing compared with BA since the takeover.
231 Nickrose87 : anyone know when flights will stop landing on runway 2 at night? ive been having many sleepless nights as i live just under the flight path about a mi
232 Post contains links David_itl : here
233 GayrugbyMAN : Why are Jet2 stopping the BCN route early on 4th Sept?
234 Speedbird19 : Could be that ZB are too competetive and are getting the higher loads!
235 GayrugbyMAN : ZB should maybe think of a second daily then, so a day's business in Catalunya could actually be possible from Manchester.
236 Boeing74741R : Unless people are prepared to use LPL on the return flight in the evening with U2, but not good if you're parking the car at MAN.
237 David_itl : Flybe is adding an extra daily service to Southampton from August (7 per weekday, only 1 less than when Flybe and BAConnect competed with each other)
238 GayrugbyMAN : Is this to head off move by BD to muscle in on the route?
239 Jetset7E7 : The loads on selected days doesn't value the need for a 2nd daily operation of BCN. Yesterday it had 98 pax on an A320 inbound. Mark
240 David_itl : Right, here's a quick round up of the May route stats: Flybe French follies: Bergerac 758, Brest 799, Limoges 266 and Rennes 1072. Hanover had a fanta
241 ScottieDog : Following on from David's excellent posting on the Middle East Figures, I thought it would be of interest to show the American statistics: BOSTON 4555
242 Post contains images Daleaholic : This is the US flight. Listed as LAX but just MAN-PHL and you have to connect in philly. More than likely... since AA used to run the MAN-MIA winter
243 COEI2007 : I wonder is MAN still being considered as a potential new base for EI??? I'd love to see them launch a base in MAN! Theres definite potential, and a a
244 COEI2007 : Just looking at the ''EI to choose BFS as new base'' thread..... ''I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but a friend of mine is cabin crew for EI and he
245 Post contains images MainMAN : The RTM passengers must be a bunch of very wealthy high-yielders, assuming that VG did their homework correctly! Shhhh.......don't tempt fate. The EI
246 COEI2007 : Hopefully EI can get into MAN and launch some long-haul routes before some other airline realises there's a lot of potential!
247 MainMAN : EI have a history of stepping in where UK airlines fail. I've only once flown on EI and that was to AMS from MAN, the last time they had a base here
248 David_itl : Not really a base, but a clear indicator of what they think of the MAN potential is that they operated extensive 5th freedom services from the 1960s
249 MainMAN : Intriguing.....I wonder which one....? I'm not surprised at the fares they're asking. I'd love to go to Pakistan sometime. Is it about time we organi
250 COEI2007 : That wouldnt be the airline that disregards any potential out of MAN, and views LHR as the holy grail???? I think EI at MAN would be great for EI and
251 DptMAN : Which B77W are EK operating into MAN at the moment. Im travelling back from Brisbane on July 25th with the connecting flight to MAN on July 26th. Any
252 ScottieDog : Slightly off topic but still MAN related. "Network Rail has awarded a contract to Alfred McAlpine to build a third platform at Manchester Airport rail
253 LH121GLA : You should try living in Glasgow!
254 Post contains links Oly720man : Look here under UAE17/18 and UAE19/20 at the bottom of the page... http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/jun07scheduled.htm EBS T V X Z on the 17/18 EBA D
255 Jetset7E7 : The past few nights it has been the 777-200 Mark
256 Trekster : Cool Been wondering when that was going to happen. Goin to be a big effort though, hills on both sides and a road on one and hotel on the other
257 Post contains links MainMAN : Thomsonfly to launch thrice weekly service to Tel Aviv from 1st November (and from LTN too). Excellent, this is what Manchester, Leeds and Liverpool's
258 GayrugbyMAN : Good news for MAN that the LPL JFK is doing very badly! As reported on BC, droppng to 4x weekly.
259 David_itl : A report on the ICLiverpool site suggest that one flught that was cancelled due tech problems had 26 passengers booked. Not good at all...now if thei
260 GayrugbyMAN : Well I know CPT did very well and JNB is surely to do the same. As for YHM from MAN, seems ok, but of course AC start soon so even more competition on
261 Post contains links GayrugbyMAN : http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=9285 MAN still in the running!
262 MainMAN : There was never any doubt about that, even though the destination map doesn't show it. We can hopefully assume that if MAN isn't an initial destinati
263 Cornish : MAN is indeed an entirely logical destination for Air Asia. Whether it will be one of the very first remains to be seen and will depend on their stra
264 MainMAN : Yes, this is the main stumbling block. Otherwise I find it quite bizarre that Oasis have so far ignored MAN. YVR doesn't have a large LCC presence at
265 Cornish : I'm not involved with them any more, but I do still think they are missing a trick on MAN. YVR is a logical route however in terms of the large Canto
266 MainMAN : Added to which, a MAN service would effectively kill off any desire CX may have had to serve MAN, probably forever. It almost seems commercial folly
267 Pieinthesky : AAX are putting over 390 seats in an A330. I'd rather have MH with 34" legroom thanks. Still, MAN seems to becoming more of an LCC hub each month so I
268 Oly720man : Auspicious start for SV today. SV121 presently showing as 6.15 hrs late, eta 17:15.
269 MainMAN : SV would otherwise have been at T2 with PIA, Syrian and Emirates. All four together will make an interesting sight every Friday. I view Oasis as Hong
270 Cornish : also remember that Oasis does have a full business cabin too - admittedly its an old Singapore Airlines effort, but its still good enough at a bargai
271 Post contains images Pieinthesky : I'd call Dragonair HKG's second carrier. It's all about presonal preference and requirements. Mine is to actually use the airlines in question to get
272 Post contains images Cornish : Well as its now owned by Cathay that's a debatable point It certainly is personal preference. And true enough those hub connections make a difference
273 MainMAN : Well, you know what I mean.......second as in second long-haul, leaving Dragonair as the bmi of Hong Kong (although a subsidiary of CX). The potentia
274 Col : Don't get me going on this one! Have you tried getting a seat on the plane. Tried their web site and call center, it's impossible to get flights out
275 Oly720man : Looks like there'll be 2x SV at MAN today. SV112 from LHR, leaving there at the moment, arr 1325, dep 1435 to JED and then SV121 arr and dep from/to R
276 Post contains links David_itl : Interesting (or not!) snippet coming out of Mahan Air; from about halfway down this article is the following statement from Hossein Hosseini, the air
277 Jetset7E7 : Was one a diversion?
278 David_itl : No, SV112 was on a face-saving exercise, seeing that all the bigwigs were ready and waiting at the "correct" time but with the "real" inaugural flight
279 Post contains links Cornish : As part of the Thomas Cook/Mytravel merger, MyTravel is apparently closing its Manchester HQ with the loss of up to 1000 jobs. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1
280 7LBAC111 : It isn't a huge surprise, but I had no idea quite how many would be affected. 2800 people is a lot when you factor in the High Street Shops. (Though
281 Post contains images Daleaholic : I live in Rochdale. This is quite bad news for the town. Our town centre is a shithole, Jobs are being lost... Well I suppose at least we still have 5
282 GayrugbyMAN : When are we expecting the EI announcement on their new base at MAN? A few other forums seem to think it is now a near certainty.
283 Post contains links Oly720man : Early days yet, but Servisair and Saudi Arabian Airlines, the national airline of Saudi Arabia, have concluded a new comprehensive ground handling agr
284 Candid76 : Quick question about Saudia. Are they offering a First Class product? The first couple of flights have been operated by 777s from the "common" AKA-AKK
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