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Irish 18/07, Checks Complete And Ready To Roll!  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 34
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6783 times:

Here we folks, another smorgasbord of Irish aviation to feed on!

Thanks everyone - regulars and visitors - for making these threads such a pleasant experience. It's nice to see that out of the 50,000+ members of A.net, we have a good Irish contingent. So, here goes No. 18.

Can't say there's been an awful lot happening in three days, so over to you ...

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User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6765 times:

Just saw this on another thread, though it would be a nice way to start this thread off.


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John Hancock
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6755 times:

Have to say Im pleasantly surprised, thats really unique.

User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6745 times:

I'm trying to decide weather I like it or not, I like the AerArann.com on the engine. I agree with you though, it certainly is unique.


John Hancock
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

The current livery is soooooo average, that new version is spot on. Kudos to Mr Arann for that one.

[Edited 2007-04-11 19:32:26]

User currently offlineAerarann From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6737 times:

I really like it, As smokeyrosco said, I like the AerArann.com on the engines too.

I wonder is this the new RE logo??

The colours chosen are an exact match of the RE navy and Blue,

And the three circles could be a modern shamrock??

So maybe it is the new RE logo, as it might not be a promotional one, as it seems to suit RE perfectly!!!

Any Thoughts???


User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6725 times:

Guess we'll know when we see no.2 in a couple of weeks.


John Hancock
User currently offlineCarbHeatIn From Ireland, joined Jun 2004, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6713 times:

Nice to see RE's recent ad campaign taking on FR on DUB-ORK. RE has really developed into a significantly sized operation. Great to see and long may the growth continue

User currently offlineAerArann From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6702 times:

The new a/c doesnt have the 2 curves after the logo, which are seen on all there other aircraft.



So this could be more evidence of a new logo being incorporated.

And the brown/orange is the exact same shade as AerAran Islands logo!

[Edited 2007-04-11 20:27:31]

User currently offlineN272WA From Ireland, joined Jun 2007, 410 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6671 times:

Really like that livery on the new ATR72. Definitely a modern twist!!


Next: (EI)DUB-ORD-DUB, DUB-EWR-IAH-DFW-MSY-AUS-AMA-DEN-EWR-DUB
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

That's a very nice livery, possibly a modern twist on this:


This is the first of many new Irish aircraft to come from France for both RE and EI!


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6639 times:

I like it; anyone know what registration it's going to be assigned - I see they don't even have the full French registration on that one!

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6635 times:

EI-REL I think, it's the only one due for May.

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6625 times:

HUGE News ... FR looking at transatlantic no frills ... fleet of 50 A350s or 787s !

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ills-airline-with-fleet-of-50.html

Aer Lingus is NOT going to like this. I can see EI's share price going a bit south after this. Basically, Ryanair is looking to launch a new transatlantic service, although not just from Ireland. It will fly from to/from secondary airports, but it will also have a premium service "on a par with Virgin's". It's not interested in EI's A330s, although where it's going to get 50 A350s or 787s by the turn of the decade is anyone's guess.

This is going to be very interesting to watch. Of course, I think the 787 is the most likely option, but obviously, MO'L is going to drive both manufacturers hard to get the best deal.


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6618 times:

This is Aer Lingus' worst nightmare! I cant believe MO'L would try this and it seems it's just another way of destroying competition. After years of saying it does not fit the FR business plan he does this even if it is a new airline and new name but one thing Aer Lingus does have is many years of experience in long-haul hopefully this will help them if FR(or whatever it will be called) wants to go head to head with EI.
I doubt Virgin is happy about this in fact who will be happy, its a long haul version of FR!

[Edited 2007-04-11 21:31:13]

[Edited 2007-04-11 21:31:50]

User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6612 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 14):
HUGE News ... FR looking at transatlantic no frills ... fleet of 50 A350s or 787s !

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ills-airline-with-fleet-of-50.html

Aer Lingus is NOT going to like this. I can see EI's share price going a bit south after this. Basically, Ryanair is looking to launch a new transatlantic service, although not just from Ireland. It will fly from to/from secondary airports, but it will also have a premium service "on a par with Virgin's". It's not interested in EI's A330s, although where it's going to get 50 A350s or 787s by the turn of the decade is anyone's guess.

I wonder if he is going to call it "My Way"?  Big grin At long last, he listened to me.

This is NOT good for EI., sadly.

My guess is he has the 787's on order, minus window shades, of course. Big grin


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6603 times:

Quoting Poitin (Reply 16):
This is NOT good for EI., sadly.

Or any other airline, imagine a new long-haul airline out of STN, LGW or LTN! British Airways, VS and the others will not be happy.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27005 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6601 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 14):
HUGE News ... FR looking at transatlantic no frills ... fleet of 50 A350s or 787s !

It was only a matter of time , we have been joking in the office about it for ages. Looks like now it will be reality. I do however like the idea of a direct flight to Providence RI, its a cool place and only an hour from Boston. It will be interesting to see FR's premium product and also what name they will give to their LH product.


On another note , I was at my desk this morning when I got a parcel!! Forgot I ordered it , was only $23 .



Does anyone know of a decent shop in Ireland to buy these models??? I want to get the whole A380 fleet!!!


User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6601 times:

Quoting Poitin (Reply 16):
My guess is he has the 787's on order, minus window shades, of course.

Non recling plastic seats with no seat back pocket.
No assingned seating, with 350 pax all rushing to thew plane at once. An ambulance is on standby if anyone gets heurt, put you have to pay to get on, then for the trip to hospital
Charging for bags, the loo, sickbags, all the usual FR stuff, plus lots, lots more! ( or is it less??....)



St. Flannan/ Fhlanain- She took off to find the footlights, And I took off for the sky
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6601 times:

The plus points for EI is that the pain will be divided among all EU carriers, although DUB is obviously a big base for them. They will take quite a while to build a network up, but with a few years to go before this is set up, EI has at least some time to build its network out of DUB; let's face it, FR will probably focus on the weakest markets, or even unserved markets, so if EI can use the intervening time to make DUB a relatively hard nut to crack, FR could choose to start its operation from somewhere else, like Marseilles, Hahn, Prestwick etc.

That said, it certainly won't be welcome news.

Funny how things change; you start saying to yourself, "nothing much happening this week" and BANG!


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6589 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 18):
Does anyone know of a decent shop in Ireland to buy these models??? I want to get the whole A380 fleet!!!

Try Mark's Models; not sure of the name of the street, but its on the south side of the quays, up from Twohigs Travel and the IAA. Also try Stillorgan Cycles, across from the shopping centre - they have a small selection upstairs.

Quoting EISHN (Reply 19):
Non recling plastic seats with no seat back pocket.
No assingned seating, with 350 pax all rushing to thew plane at once. An ambulance is on standby if anyone gets heurt, put you have to pay to get on, then for the trip to hospital
Charging for bags, the loo, sickbags, all the usual FR stuff, plus lots, lots more! ( or is it less??....)

I think FR recognises that its long haul service has to be something different; for one hour on a plane, you can take FR's service as it is, but for 7h, you want something more; $12 is just a headline fare; few passengers will get that. They'll want to have something a little more than the basic.

Also, I just can't wait to see what the UK Independent newspaper has to say about this; they'll burst a gasket!


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6588 times:

Quoting EISHN (Reply 19):
Non recling plastic seats with no seat back pocket.
No assingned seating, with 350 pax all rushing to thew plane at once. An ambulance is on standby if anyone gets heurt, put you have to pay to get on, then for the trip to hospital
Charging for bags, the loo, sickbags, all the usual FR stuff, plus lots, lots more! ( or is it less??....)

Sounds like a great way to travel. Perhaps he will call it the De Sade Airlines.

Oh, the days when we flow transatlantic on 707s, and use to dress up for the trip -- dresses for women, shirt, tie and jacket for men. And the food was good.


User currently offlineEirbus06 From Ireland, joined Apr 2006, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6586 times:

The airbridges at dub and snn,do they have advertising on them? Although cork has only 1 airbridge i was wondering if they got the other 3 they were promised,would the advertising not pay for them?  listen 


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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6579 times:

I'm really not convinced by this. Ryanair are promising what other long-haul LCCs have done in the past, great service and low fares. A "premium product better than Virgin Atlantic's" is hard to beat after all VS was an LCC long-haul airline when they started out and now look at them, I get cheaper fares on AA, UA and EI.
A long-haul airline with plans to have no interlining with FR or any other airline will not impress business passengers. At least EI has ties with AA and soon B6!


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6576 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 21):
I think FR recognises that its long haul service has to be something different; for one hour on a plane, you can take FR's service as it is, but for 7h, you want something more; $12 is just a headline fare; few passengers will get that. They'll want to have something a little more than the basic.

Also, I just can't wait to see what the UK Independent newspaper has to say about this; they'll burst a gasket!

SIPTU eat your heart out. Do let us on the other side of the pond know what the Indy has to say. Should be funny.

And I agree with your points on long haul service. Dropping a Euro coin into the loo door handle will not work.


25 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Judging by this view lots of people would see the adverts! Could be a way to get rid of that debt but I think that's already being dealt with. http:/
26 Smokeyrosco : I don't think EI or EI's investors have anything to worry about just yet, FR will have to wait like everyone else for the 787 or 350 as stated in the
27 Shamrock350 : To be honest I think fares will be around the same as what EI offers. One thing that I would welcome is the possibility of long-hul flights from Cork
28 Rineanna : Fantastic news. Absolutely magnificent. Hurrah! It's been muted for quite a while now, here's hoping for a confirmation from the FR HQ! Of course, we
29 EISHN : Just having a bit of a laugh. I do know that there has to be something onboard in terms of a proper service. Jet Star L/H flights do offer free food,
30 Shamrock350 : Current EI yes but the EI of 2015 could be very different, a simple and strong fleet of A350s or 787s all with one product and a good one at that bec
31 Smokeyrosco : Anyone else thinks that the timing of this airline could coincide with MOL moving up to bigger and better things?
32 OA260 : Thats a long time in aviation anything can happen. With all the new carbon taxes etc... the $12 will be $300 as stated before. Now if they did a mist
33 Rineanna : That's not much good to to the PAX using their services from 2007 to 2015. That's a long time to wait for a half-decent product. It's typical. The th
34 JWMD123 : The idea of FR going T/A throws up a whole load of problems. To start: Crews will have to be over-nighted. Something FR don't do at present. Higher co
35 Shamrock350 : Lets just say they will not fly to JFK! It will have to do because this new airline is not going to be ready tomorrow, more like 2012 at the earliest
36 OA260 : There will always be people willing to work for less!!! Look at what happened in irish Ferries. I wouldnt put it past him to make them work on the ou
37 Rineanna : That's a fantastic attitude for an airline to have. A core principal for any service firm is to provide its customers with value which equals or exce
38 Shamrock350 : Well Aer Lingus fares are not exactly high, I'm thinking of booking LHR-DXB so far return fares are £340 including taxes and charges, cheaper than a
39 BrianDromey : All the more reason NEVER to believe any of the crap that comes out of the mouth of MOL and FR. NONE of it is true, or bears any resemblence to reali
40 Shamrock350 : A few weeks ago he was saying in a sad tone "I will leave Ryanair in 2 or 3 years" he is not going anywhere! With plans like this he will have to sta
41 Rineanna : It's an interesting point. I know Laker and one or two others have tried and failed at LCC long-haul but MO'L and FR aren't any novices in this game.
42 AC747 : What state will DUB be in come 2012 (or whenever this venture may happen) ? Will T2 and T1 terminal extensions be able to cope if they decide to go fo
43 ThrottleHold : So if the outbound crew dead-head back as pax, who will fly the return leg then? That wouldn't work unless there were crew based at every destination
44 Post contains links Planemanofnz : Sorry if this is old news but has anyone seen the new Cityjet livery and logo? http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1197442/L/ and : http://www.airfranc
45 EI321 : Why are they bothering putting that livery on just one aircraft. Its not as if its a big recognisable brand (in fact I suspect that its something to d
46 OA260 : Ohhh its a bit too bare for me , I like the colours but it needs more on it.
47 Al2637 : Firstly, MOL has said VERY clearly that this business will be run independently to the current FR. This means different crew, potentially different ai
48 BrianDromey : I think you are right, with the advent of O/S there will certainly be more competition. Most of it will not be from MOL's attempt at long haul. This
49 Post contains links EIDUZ : Hi all. i have been reading these posts for a few years now and finally decided that i would take the plunge and join. I work in Dublin Airport, but r
50 Post contains images BrianDromey : While Laker failed, it is no secret that BA et al played a very iportant part in Lakers downfall. Laker did not fail through a lack of passengers, th
51 OA260 : QR Y class looks nice and bright and clean. I dont like the J class seats though, they look like a dentists chair gone wrong!!!
52 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Welcome EIDUZ! I like the user name Those seats look very nice and are much better than the Sicma Aero Seat design. I'm glad the IFE will be in the b
53 JWMD123 : I see the oral hearing for T2 starts next monday from An board Pleanala. Will be interesting to here the views of the NIMBYS!!! Personally I do beleiv
54 EISHN : Firstly, welcome EIDUZ! Thanks for the info about the new planes. Do you mind me asking how you found out about the new seats? Secondly, what the hell
55 Post contains links Aerarann : MOL is flying a plane full of journalists to Germany today to show them what the german's built for 1/10th the price the DAA are charging for T2 www.b
56 Philb : I just wonder if this is going to be a one off, a standard or one of a number of Celtic themes.
57 EIDUZ : Thank you all for the kind words of welcome. All i can say is that the documentation for the new interior has started to arrive at Aer Lingus HQ. Whi
58 EI321 : Newsflash michael - the DAA are not building terminal 2 They are the client for whom its being built. Its designed by professionals, costed by proffes
59 Post contains images EISHN : Ahhh, looks like we have an EI insider, who could possibly enlighten us with some of EI's big secrets. New routes, interiors, orders???? EIDUZ, do yo
60 Post contains images EIDUZ : EISHN, I don't work for Aer Lingus I'm afraid. So i have no idea what will be stamped on the back of the seats. Sorry
61 Shamrock350 : Even if the fleet is inconsistent for a few years, the new aircraft that arrive at EI starting with -DUZ and -DUO will be the blueprint for new aircra
62 Post contains links Poitin : Congratulations on being what appears to be the only one who actual read MOL's announcement. I agree with your views, most of which I have expressed
63 Al2637 : Agreed, when I said New York and Boston I was just referring to the markets, not specific airports. These are the 2 biggest US markets for EI, and I
64 EISHN : DAMN!! I thought we would finally have some insight as to what the ehll they are planningover there, oh well, back to sqaure one, being left in the d
65 Poitin : This I agree with, plus Chicago, as the third I see your point, but the big issue with long haul is delays. If I buy two tickets that are not linked,
66 BrianDromey : I see where you are comming from here. But the thing is, MY Way is going to be complely seperate. I think passengers will just leve longer between co
67 JWMD123 : Poitin, seeing as though you are the other side of the pond you would have more insight that us. In terms of flying to secondary airports in the US a
68 Al2637 : FR - 40mins EI - 45mins
69 Shamrock330 : No, it certainly is not. Ryanair only need to account for the amount of bags they loose. Each airlines' business model is their own business. Ryanair
70 Post contains images Pe@rson : So unoriginal as to be wholly boring and pointless. And a good evening to everyone in the Aer Lingus Fan Club.
71 Post contains images Btriple7 : Hello everyone, It's been a while since I posted in one of these Irish Aviation threads. After hearing about O'Leary's little transatlantic venture, I
72 BrianDromey : Thre is two of us in it. 1) He has been publically quoted in national newspapers (most likely the Examiner, but I couldn't swear it) as saying " I d
73 Philb : That's one hell of a climb down from:
74 OA260 : Just wanted to know why you said that ???? And what did you mean by that ??? Good evening Pe@rson LOL.... Well I tell you one thing , ive learned alo
75 AerArann : I think the whole Brian -v- Shamrock330 fiasco should just stop. This is a public forum, and nobody wants to be subjected to having to read the to and
76 Post contains links and images Poitin : Darwin had some insights into this -- when conditions change, you have three choices: move, adapted, or go extinct. I don't think MOL is a dinosaur.
77 ANCFlyer : Had to clean this thread of some off topic conversation, childish antics, and personal conversation. Sorry - didn't think that would happen in an Iris
78 EIRules : Looks like someone agreed with you Aer Arann!!! On a slightly different note, does anyone know when CO are due to install PTVs in their 757s? I am pl
79 OA260 : Did you consider maybe LH DUB-FRA and then FRA-JFK on SQ !!! I know its the long way round but it would be an experience. Or theres KLM via AMS which
80 Philb : Posted the following some hours ago on the Ryanair thread. Does anyone want to comment/add? Some airports that will likely be bidding for FR Atlantic
81 AC747 : Thanks goodness for that. Re RE (!)......any word on whether the latest scheme posted here is part of a whole new livery, or just a one off ? Looks t
82 Kaitak : I believe that the CO 757s are being refitted at the moment, so it's quite possible that they will be available by November, but with any luck they'l
83 EIRules : Thanks Kaitak but the timetable is saying that 757s are operating the flights in November, dunno if will be changed. I'd have to overnight in FRA on
84 Post contains links Poitin : Posted the following some hours ago on the Ryanair thread. Does anyone want to comment/add? You can add many hundreds to the list. Manchester NH is a
85 Smokeyrosco : Me too, I've said a couple of times on here I like to pay a bit more for quality and the frills, even just flights at sensible times and to avoid the
86 Post contains images Poitin : Obviously he's not Irish, Smokeyrosco, and not use to our ways. What is a little craic amongst friends? Must be an Englishman.
87 Post contains images Shamrock350 : I for one was hoping for A350s up until very recently because of the Airbus issues but now the A350 is looking very nice, cheap A330s could be thrown
88 Pe@rson : Hmm. I have 9 days off in July and I don't yet know what to do. I have a ticket for London-Presov-London (via Bratislava in both directions; Presov's
89 ANCFlyer : Dutch, Israeli, Cherokee Indian - and IRISH (on my Mother's Father's side). . . . but neither here nor there. Not when I have to delete 22 posts to b
90 Smokeyrosco : Fair enough, I didn't see them.
91 Post contains images Rineanna : Good day all, Boy have things changed since I last checked! Welcome EI-DUZ; it's great that the we have an even bigger contingent of Irish A.netters w
92 Smokeyrosco : There are but I'm not sure exactly how specific they are, so a small sandwich would probably meet the regulation then FR could offer something more s
93 Pe@rson : Cheeky git! I certainly hope OA260 hasn't got the wrong idea. You know, he's so attractive, fun and all, but my hand does not bend downwards. So you
94 Smokeyrosco : What about calling it O'Learyair
95 BrianDromey : Agreed, its tiresome. I could have chosen to word my statemens differently, but I didnt. I could have chosen to let it go let it go, but I didnt. In
96 Shamrock350 : Airbus could also offer a good deal on A330s but the more A350s ordered the less desperate they get for new orders but they could still offer EI a ni
97 Post contains images OA260 : LOL...Listen mate its the ones who dont bend their wrists that are the ones to watch out for LOL....as for circle of lust well...my idea of a good ni
98 EIRules : God this forum really is developing. Firstly we see a fight and then we start talking about sex and juices flowing!! And I thought this was meant to
99 COEI2007 : They're starting this summer, but I doubt you'd get a 75 with PTV's in November 762 is from May 4th until Sept, with one 752 operating SNN-EWR, and a
100 OA260 : CO's 767's are really nice but I dont think id like to go all that way in a 757 and no PTV. I was lucky to get a 767 last time I flew and it gets you
101 Poitin : Given that FR has a much lower cost structure than EI, or any of the established airlines, MOL can attract business with lower prices, but still do i
102 EIRules : I have only flown on AA 757s between MIA ad UIO and MIA and LPB and they were only flights of 3-4hours and I must say that I wouldnt fancy being on o
103 Post contains links Al2637 : So now MOL is saying that the new airline won't be funded with Ryanairs own money.... and it would be an "associate" company rather than part of Ryana
104 COEI2007 : I've probably being on CO 757's close to 20 times in the past 11 months!!! I've mostly flown in J, which is good on the 75's. Its a small cabin, with
105 OA260 : The only time I was on one was ages ago on EDI to LHR with BA. Oh and a flight from GEO-CUR-JFK on GY. It was around 5 hours. I have to say Im lookin
106 Aerarann : And what about RE??? They are one of europes fastest growing regional airlines.
107 EISHN : Don't you get it. we're aerosexuals!!!!! Um....because EI are cheap. They aren't adding extra charges on S/H because they're trying to offer you lowe
108 OA260 : LOL...as I was booking a whole load of EI flights today I went to assign them seats and then wondered why the first 5 rows were empty !!! Then I look
109 Shamrock350 : No probably because EI are a business and like any other business they want to make money. Would you prefer to have Aer Lingus loosing money and flyi
110 COEI2007 : I agree. Seat selection, meals and checking in bags arent things all passengers want. If you want them, you pay for them! The A330-300's will only ge
111 Shamrock330 : I'd be of the same opinion. CO's 767-400 is a really nice bird and it has seat back TV's in every seat. Service is good aswell, although perhaps slig
112 N272WA : New York Aer Lingus EI109 12-04-2007 17:00 Departed 2055 This is the second time this week that the 109 has been delayed for 4 hours. Looks like the 3
113 OA260 : Any more info on what the problem was?? Its pretty bad alright 4 hours is a long time and then the 7 hours flight!! Youd be wrecked. I remember takin
114 Shamrock330 : Looks like what we hoped wouldn't happen is going to materialise. THe Gulf Air thread has a link confirming that Dublin is being scrapped. Sad occasio
115 Shamrock350 : It's only April and we are already seeing A330 problems I would hate to see what happens in July and August! Even with the new A330s, they will be put
116 BrianDromey : woops! RE are certainly very strong, but nowehere near the scale of FR and EI. Any airline that can hold its own against FR's miniscule cost base and
117 N272WA : OA260, No info i'm afriad on what the issue is with the EI 330's. Wonder did it leave or was a replacement hired-in again? Last year they had Omni DC1
118 OA260 : What I cant understand is why they are still taking bookings on this . I made 5 today !!!! Great news for me , I will have to clear up the crap tomor
119 Post contains links BrianDromey : Looks like GF is gone.... http://www.arabianbusiness.com/index...r-to-scrap-sydney-service&Itemid=1 SYD and JNB also to go. There is talk hat service
120 OA260 : Well get yourself down to DUB before the last flight!!! Just texted my collegue RE: GF , text back ''holy S@@t'' !!! I think that sums it up . Next t
121 Shamrock330 : I have to say I'm really surprised about Gulf's decision. I was always under the impression that GF were holding their own. Sure, their frequencies le
122 Smokeyrosco : to replace 'some' of their aircraft, and I'm pretty sure we'll be waving bye bye to the 42's but not till next year and at that probably at the end o
123 OA260 : I actually saw sales figures a few months back and the loads were what one would expect for a new carrier into the market. They were quite good and d
124 Post contains images Shamrock330 : I agree, its a desperately sad situation. But as a chapter ends , new opportunitities are always on the horizon. With the imminent arrival of Etihad,
125 OA260 : Yeah they have some good fares on their website. Also DUB-AUH-DUB for August for Eur450 all in and 30 kilos luggage allowance in Y class!!! PTV and f
126 Shamrock330 : Haha, maybe I could bring my Mam along too, we could visit the opera house , harbour bridge and Bondi beach!
127 Aer Lingus : It might be worth noting that although DUB was said to have been doing extremely well, proportionally re: frequency, according to their CEO, the aircr
128 OA260 : Very good points Aer Lingus and a scenario I have to say I didnt think of but it makes alot of sense. You an insider LOL... Just one thing though EY
129 Kaitak : It really is sad to see GF leaving, particularly as they seemed to be shifting the numbers. At least one can take some comfort from the fact that they
130 Pilot21 : Well this thread seemed to get interesting at some point above! Pity about GF, especially as loads appeared to be good as mentioned by a few people, b
131 Philb : GF has been a basket case for some time and the latest redrawing of its operations may well be the last chance to make the company work. If the Bahrai
132 BrianDromey : Bloody hell. Thats a steal. EY is really supposed to be the business as well...... Trust me, the long flights are well worth it. Although I would go
133 OA260 : Well there is one reason for this and one reason only !!! Thats all they know. Thats all they have been trained on. There was a mega roadshow for tra
134 Post contains images N272WA : What a beautiful day!!! Anybody fancy a picnic out at the runways........... OA260???? Given that Pe@rson refused my earlier offer, you are next in li
135 Pilot21 : The sun looks lovely, but I'm stuck in BRU with this damn Fire Service Strike..reminds me of Ireland!!!!! The worst thing is that it is a rolling stri
136 OA260 : LOL no im just into work and no I dont want to be second best !!!lol Re: AY all flights for summer show A319 so I guess the M80' are gone. Enjoy the
137 Post contains images AC747 : Bugger Question about Futura Gael. Am I right in saying that they were set up to fly to 'nonEU' destinations from Ireland ? So far I have noticed tha
138 OA260 : You know GF staff in Reservations did not know!!! I called to re protect passengers and the guy was totally shocked on reservations!!! Would have been
139 JWMD123 : From RTE Commission prepares for Ryanair decision Friday, 13 April 2007 13:43 A report from the Reuters news agency says the European Commission has l
140 Post contains links Shamrock350 : EU could force FR to cut Aer Lingus stake! Exactly what we have been talking about in the last few threads, just proves how damaging a takeover could
141 Post contains links Rineanna : The following is taken from the horse's mouth: Source: http://www.futura-aer.com/08/01.php?punto=06 ...so I guess they might have thought it might be
142 OA260 : Dont know if I posted this before but Swiss have some great fares in T class for all over Europe for Summer. Warsaw €47 Athens €56 Barcelona €36
143 Aerarann : DUBLIN - ZURICH SAMPLE FARE - MAY Swiss Fare - €58 RETURN Taxes - €32 Fuel Surcharge - €32 !!!! There are somethings money cant buy....for every
144 OA260 : lol....€122 for Swiss to ZRH is money well spent in my opinion.
145 N272WA : OA260.... do LX use the 319 on this route on most occasions? Ever think they would increase capacity, with a 2nd daily service? One morning and one la
146 N272WA : Cheers Somkeyrosco for that information. Might try out LX in the summer.
147 Smokeyrosco : No problem, LX is a great service, when I used to handle them they always use to give the lads on the ramp chocolates, very friendly crews.
148 Post contains images N272WA : Wow, sounds like they are a very decent lot altogether!! Thanks for your info again
149 OA260 : I think the one daily is enough to be honest. They do well on that and I think LH would not like it if they did more as they are linked to LH. Out of
150 Kaitak : I'm a bit concerned about the consequences for EI of FR being forced to sell its shareholding; if there is nothing to stop FR from increasing the heat
151 Shamrock350 : That is a bit of a worry, currently Aer Lingus is safe from any attack that FR presents because FR owns a rather big stake in EI, they wouldn't want t
152 BrianDromey : You are very right there. I want to go to FCO in July, but not on the days EI flies. DO you think they could/would book anything else? Nope. As for o
153 Shamrock330 : BMI lists swiss T fares as x0.5 earning so a trip to Rome over and back would net around 1200 miles.
154 OA260 : Yes you can but they are 50% . You normally earn 1204 miles on this so you would get 602 miles for a DUB-ZRH-FCO. If you flew the same way back you w
155 Kaitak : There's an interesting discussion on PPRUNE about the MO'L plan (I guess we'd better call it an MO'L plan rather than an FR plan!) to go into long hau
156 OA260 : LOL Shamrock330 we must have been typing at the same time although looks like you are faster than me LOL...
157 BrianDromey : Yeup...but unless I can get a few *A trips in this summer, I think I may be a blue member forever. There is not a single airline into ORK on which I
158 Post contains images Shamrock330 : I'm unbeatable, I hate to loose... I'm in the same boat as you at present, a lowly blue plus. Theres no doubt, if one wants to advance to the top of
159 Post contains links BrianDromey : Where are my manners.....Thanks for the info guys! Shamrock330, I have been looking into this for a while now, If you are doing a mileage run, might
160 OA260 : LOL Blue ???/ Whats that ???? I only talk to fellow Gold members LOL..(only joking) !!!! Why not just get a cheap W class on United to USA and back f
161 BrianDromey : SNOB......not all of us are fortunate enough to be able to travel the world in LX biz! I am a very poor student, with a very large overdraft. To be h
162 OA260 : Pretty much the same as Star . A few months ago I considered switching but to be honest Star is better. Well my first trip on NZ will be this Novembe
163 BrianDromey : This is true.....and plus a ride on an E170.....you're giving me ideas! My credit card is already screaming NOOOOOOO! You must sell a fortune in flig
164 Philb : Yes. On at least 4 aircraft late last year. Ads included the "usual suspects" Terravision coaches, Hertz and Golf4less.
165 Post contains images Rineanna : It's a win-win situation for FR, really. They're in a superb position whatever way the commission rules. Should the takeover go ahead (doubtful), the
166 Poitin : From what I read, it is MOL's and not FR's plan, and he already has the backers to the tune of E200 million. As for the four to five years time frame
167 Philb : If he uses My Way as a name will a certain German owned company object?
168 Post contains links Rineanna : http://search.ebay.ie/a380-model_W0QQfltZ9QQfromZR8
169 Shamrock350 : I heard VS but with every UFO 787 it's been rumoured to be VS. It's not MO'L he is still talking about raising the money for the aircraft from invest
170 BrianDromey : I wouldn't say the 777 was too large. In fact I'd ahve tehought the 77W to be the perfect tool. Yes its large, but there is lots of cargo capacity as
171 Post contains images OA260 : Thats a good idea, i actually never knew they were booked in A so I guess they are treated as F class and triple miles right?? I will have to have a
172 Post contains images N272WA : LOL so much OA260!!! I had my picnic basket ready and waiting and ws just in the process of cleaning out my flask Yeah good idea, we should go for pin
173 Post contains links Shamrock350 : aerlingushotels.com has now been updated with the new design, and I'm sure there is an airliners.net photo on the Airport Hotels tab! Anyway it looks
174 OA260 : LOL I was looking at that for ATH hotels to see what they offered. No wonder half the hotels are so cheap !!! They are in the brothel area LOL....
175 Post contains images Shamrock350 : That's ncie to know
176 OA260 : lol yeah if a hotels cheap you want to know the location !!! That applies to most cities. Omonia Square is full of alchoholics and drug takers. Not t
177 Aerarann : I've been trying to think of ways on how RE could improve its product to allow it be more competitive. Personally, I feel they should cut down there G
178 Post contains links EISHN : Longest Route For The A333 And Other Questions (by Stylo777 Apr 14 2007 in Civil Aviation) There is a thread going on about the longest A333 routes ou
179 Rineanna : Just some news in brief from the Indo today: • The DAA are poised to sell its stake in Birmingham airport (muted to be worth up to €424m) possibly
180 Poitin : It all depends on what the company does, what copyright and trademarks it has and what the EC says. Just what My Way are you thinking of -- MyWay.com
181 Post contains links Aerarann : Heres the official announcement: Gulf Air to scrap Dublin service 14/04/2007 - 14:52:24 Gulf Air will drop three destinations, including Dublin, and m
182 Philb : I've been calling it FR Atlantic! Are you sure you haven't subliminally picked up My Way from MOL's sometimes quoted statement from an article around
183 Post contains links EI787 : Well, as promised, here is my trip report to Beijing: DUB-LHR-PEK: School Tour: EI/CA (by EI787 Apr 14 2007 in Trip Reports)
184 Post contains images Rineanna : That doesn't shed too positive a light on the performance of the DUB route. In fairness, they put a major effort into the route, and as was said prev
185 AerArann : Well, they have a 3rd party cleaner who cleans the A/C on the turnaround. re-stocking could go on during the period of no passengers on/off. Well i'd
186 Rineanna : Oh right, well that would certainly free up the FA for boarding duties. That was ridiculous. I was just about to suggest CVT, aswell as HUY, as possi
187 AerArann : Kent would do well i feel, EUjet were gettin 40+ on there twice daily service from DUB. EDI and AMS also did very well from KENT, Potential to base a
188 OA260 : HAHA well at least Breaking News reads their emails!!!! Guess who sent them the link !!!
189 Humberside : I dont think you can compare the competition though. Competing with Ryanair is a lot different from competing with Euromanx. FR are much stronger tha
190 Rineanna : Yes and they'd be safe in the knowledge that FR/EI aren't going to gop head-to-head with them due to the 1,605m runway. I was just looking at their d
191 OA260 : Would RE make it to LRH from ORK ??? Thats a nice part of France and Im sure would do well in Summer. I know FR has DUB-LRH so maybe RE could offer a
192 COEI2007 : Three people on their ticket desk, as well as two check-in agents is a bit much. I've never seen a queue at their check-in, so maybe on check-in desk
193 OA260 : Funny now you mention it everytime I was queing to check in for the Swiss flights the Aer Aerann desk was beside it and the girls at the check in des
194 Al2637 : haha, EI "fast" bag drop is so slow! I actually don't see the advantage of using the FastPass machines if you have luggage to check (for the customer
195 Al2637 : If that is true, it's really unsustainable for RE. Especially on a Friday! I suspect their 7 Times Better campaign maybe the final roll of the dice f
196 Shamrock350 : I have noticed that, I thought it was just LHR because at ORK it seems to be a bit faster but I suppose checking in normally would take the same amou
197 OA260 : The only thing I like about the fastpass machines is being able to choose the exact seat you want if you havnt booked it already online. Its better t
198 Post contains images Poitin : The history of My Way may be subliminal as you suggest, but I don't remember seeing MOL ever making the My Way statement. While I have no doubt that
199 Rineanna : Yes, I remember when my sister went to Prague from ORK, the check-in desk wasn't open so I told her to use the fast-pass and the actual kiosk part of
200 OA260 : That flightmemory thing is good but whats not good is having to type it all in !!! Ive entered in 22 flights and thats only the ones Ive flown since X
201 Shamrock350 : So far here are my top ten or more like 6 airlines for 2006, I have a few more to do which may change the results but I doubt will be knocked from the
202 Post contains images BrianDromey : No probs. I agree about the travel agents. I once came across an employee who couldnt tell the front end of a GDS from the back. "Tina'd be dere, lik
203 OA260 : From what ive entered so far mine is :: Top Airlines # Airline Amount % 1 SWISS 19 55.9 % 2 Iran Air 4 11.8 % 3 SATA International 2 5.9 % 4 Emirates
204 Rineanna : Well my first flight was just 5 years ago, and Ryanair dominate my airline stats with EI close behind! I've entered all the destinations I've flown to
205 Tolmachevo : Why dont EI use a fastpass system like at MUC T2 with LH, you can get your boarding card, bag tag all from the one machine which weighs your bag- all
206 Shamrock350 : I didn't know LH did that, it sounds very easy but I have just one question, who asks you the security questions like "did you pack your bag yourself"
207 Post contains links OA260 : Yes is asks you these questions and then prints your tag. Very good if you know how to do it !!! Here is the online demo in English !! http://80.242.
208 Shamrock350 : Thanks. Sounds like EI would have to put a manual next to each one, or another big advert for it like they currently have in DUB for fast pass.
209 Post contains links OA260 : Something I found in the archives!!! http://www.rte.ie/business/2006/1108/gulfair.html We are expecting the ''officical'' press statement from GF tomo
210 Shamrock350 : It is a shame they had to go when they were doing so well here but if they couldn't find a way that would enable aircraft to fly to DUB without the JN
211 BrianDromey : How quickly times change! A crazy thought just crossed my mind. If GF had desired to do so, would it have been possible for them to operate BAH-DUB-U
212 OA260 : What is bad is that GF reservations still say the route is operating as normal!!! Im trying to find out what date the route will go as people have hon
213 Kaitak : I'm wondering when they are actually going to finish up; I'm going to be home next month and I'd love to get a shot of them at DUB, for posterity's sa
214 Shamrock350 : I agree that Aer Lingus need to be careful with their short-haul charges. Aer Lingus say this is aimed at business passengers but they haven't made th
215 OA260 : I dont share the optimism to be honest unless one party gets in without coalition. Theres too much arguing and not enough action. I would like to see
216 Post contains links Rineanna : There seems to be a nice incentives package available to MOL's T/A carrier from the DAA anyway. Today's Indo says that there will be route discounts o
217 Philb : Which is as likely as rocking horse droppings being found at the Curragh. Irish politics is riddled with dynasties, cronyism and the use of taxpayers
218 OA260 : Talking to people around my area Sinn Fein are going to do well!!! I guess at least you know what you are getting LOL... one thing going for them is
219 COEI2007 : Hahaha! Two check-in agents and three Ticket desk staff is way too much!!! They look bored most of the time!!!! Anyone know if you can select the Pre
220 OA260 : You call EI res give them your booking Ref and Eur45 each way and they upgrade you over the phone , you can do this anytime. You can also get your se
221 COEI2007 : I'm not paying E45!!! I'll blag myself a seat! I'll let them know i'm starting in EI the following week, and see what I can get from them!
222 OA260 : LOL... Eur45 is nothing to ride in Premier!! Also those seats usually are popular, I went to book it for clients last week and they got the last 2. A
223 COEI2007 : Here is MyFlight Memory, well, what I can remember. I'm trying to find my Goldcircle statement that has all my flights, i'm sure i'm missing at least
224 Andaman : Finnair stopped using MD80s in summer 2006, some of them are now flying for Finnair's LCC in Sweden, Flynordic - which also fly ARN-DUB, 1x? weekly.
225 EIRules : I see in today's Sunday TImes in an article about DL starting flights from LHR that EI have also been approached by airlines about selling some of the
226 Shamrock350 : No surprise about EI being approached but EI doesn't really need all those slots. Even with the large amount of flights this summer from LHR they stil
227 Rineanna : I'm sure the offers will keep going up and up given how valuable the slots are, especially to the American Majors who were previously restricted from
228 Humberside : Cant the Irish government block them doing that?
229 Shamrock350 : I'm not sure how many they have exactly but I do know they have about 4% of all LHR slots which is quite a lot. They are the fourth largest slot hold
230 Kaitak : There was a lot of discussion prior to EI's privatisation as to the extent of protection the govt could obtain for EI's LHR slots. I think the conclus
231 OA260 : EI should sell the ones they dont need to the highest bidder and then use the money for further expansion long haul from Dublin.
232 EISHN : According to Mary Harney (I think) EI own 23 slot pairs at LHR. However currently only 22 are being used, DUB 13, ORK 5, and SNN 4. But EI are adding
233 OA260 : She would take up 2 slots herself LOL..... Re: Irish domestic airlines, was there an airline after EI and before RE that offered Irish domestic fligh
234 Philb : Sorry to be so long in coming back. Our community broadband has been staggering along at less than 100kbps for the last five hours or so and, being S
235 Philb : Are you sure those flight times shouldn't be the other way around?
236 Aerarann : From what i know, RE took over many of EI's routes progressively, like EI would finish the route on one day, and then RE took it up the next day. Tha
237 OA260 : LOL count yourself lucky !! Im on 28kbps and no im not joking either.... good news though is in 4-6 weeks Eirscum are saying I will be connected as t
238 Post contains links Shamrock350 : I think there was an airline called Avair. Here's an image of their timetable. http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/kz.htm
239 AC747 : I reckon you're thinking of Avair. They flew Shorts 330's around Ireland and to Blackpool and EMA (I believe).
240 OA260 : " target=_blank>http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...z.htm Wasnt that one . When did Avair stop flying??? I see they did a Belfast to Dublin!! Was
241 Shamrock350 : I wasn't even born then, just remember the name from my grandmother's friend, she was an F/A for Aer Lingus in those days.
242 OA260 : You know something that I cant seem to get hold of is interior cabin photos of EI J class and Y class on the old 747's!! Does anyone have any???
243 Shamrock350 : I've been looking for the same thing! The closest I have seen is the Aer Lingus your home advert and that's barely a glimpse. If I find anything I wi
244 BrianDromey : Yes, I remember this. Back then aircraft used to overnight in ORK, fly to DUB and then onwards to a european city. Typically CDG, AMS or a german cit
245 OA260 : Great , it would be cool so see what they looked like inside etc.... and if they Irish themes inside on the walls etc... On Olympic Airways 747's the
246 Post contains links and images Rineanna : No, not your imagination. Euroceltic airways were probably the last regional airline before the emergence of RE. Waterford was where their HQ was, an
247 Post contains images OA260 : BRILLIANT , thanks that was them !!! Disaster.....I remember the day it went off the runway !!!! LOL I know but couldnt resist!! Health minister if y
248 BrianDromey : Im am not a big fan of teh GAA by any stretch of the imagination, BUT the GAA put a lot back into teh community. Personally I ahve no problem with th
249 OA260 : DL 128 ATL-DUB-ATL has been cancelled due to tech problem with the aircraft. Dont know what it was but all passengers are being overnighted in DUB hot
250 OA260 : There appears to be some Gremlins in the Anet system today .[Edited 2007-04-16 14:11:49]
251 Shamrock350 : When I logged on a few hours ago this thread was in the past with only 205 posts when last night it had over 230 posts. There have been problems for t
252 Philb : The GAA does good work with work for youth in the community but, apart from the grants it gets, nationally it pays no tax as a corporate body on the
253 Post contains links Rineanna : Here's the history of Euroceltic's two F27s: G-ECAH ....and G-ecat: Source: http://www.ruudleeuw.com/f27-gecat-history.htm It says in Wikipedia, howev
254 Aerarann : Two little bits of info: -Ryanair are moving to computerised check-in next week or the week after @ DUB. Possibility now for FR fastpass machines in t
255 Smokeyrosco : Kinda thought that
256 EI321 : [quote=EIDUZ,reply=61]Quoting EISHN (Reply 55): probably a system update
257 Post contains links Danny : Some German group Hahn Info calculated FR load factors out of STN. Interesting read: http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/antoslaw/STN06_1_big.png
258 BrianDromey : Very valid points there. The problem in the HSE is that it is full of, as you say "prima donnas" in all areas who demand all sorts of things, and usu
259 Post contains links and images OA260 : Yeah I think the server must have been down for a while. I see FR has been upto their normal tricks again!!! http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0416/Ryanair.
260 Kaitak : Probably time to move onto No.19, methinks? I'll set it up and we'll get rolling ...
261 Post contains links Kaitak : Here goes, folks! The 19th Hole - A Birdie From Irish Aviation! (by Kaitak Apr 16 2007 in Civil Aviation)
262 Post contains links ANCFlyer : Continue here pleae: The 19th Hole - A Birdie From Irish Aviation! (by Kaitak Apr 16 2007 in Civil Aviation)
263 Post contains links and images EISHN : http://www.geocities.com/lucanflyer/fleet.html I believe it was 193 all economy, then it could seat 121 Premier and 47 Classic. The A320 was 159, but
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