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Whats Going On At PIT?  
User currently offlineUSAirways304 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8764 times:

Anyone have an idea about the future plans at PIT? US Airways has increased some flights, but yet many gates remain unused (E Concourse is a ghost town). Anyone heard of any possible hub plans by other carriers?

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User currently offlinePITSpeedbird From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8626 times:

There has been a recent thread about goings on at my hometown airport.

A new hub would be great!! But I would settle for increased service on WN.

Once again - the X structure makes connections a breeze. Here's to increased service at PIT!

- PITSpeedbird



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8526 times:

Quoting USAirways304 (Thread starter):
Anyone have an idea about the future plans at PIT? US Airways has increased some flights, but yet many gates remain unused (E Concourse is a ghost town). Anyone heard of any possible hub plans by other carriers?

I highly doubt any new carrier or existing carrier is interested in hubbing at PIT or opening another focus city at the very least... The E concourse a ghost town? Part of it is non-existant. At least it was removed for expansion of the baggage system. Many of us on here are really starting to wonder about that. PITSpeedbird, I probably found my equal on here in you! I just looked at your profile and you're not much older than I am. Boy do I hope you consider staying out there. Pittsburgh could use young passionate minds like you (and me, if I ever move back out there...) My blood flows black and gold and pretty much anything Pittsburgh. I really want that city to become something special again... badly!

Anyway, back to the topic... Delta looks to be beefing up service there, but I think they'll be pretty much maxed out when SLC service goes MD90 and with 757 service to ATL and 738 service to CVG. I can't believe DL's service at PIT. I am sure ridership on DL will only increase further. They have been showing a month-2-month increase in pax IIRC... Again, I don't see ASA or anyone (Republic) flying any regional routes for DL at PIT any time soon...

Boy would that be saaaaaaaWEEET to see tho!



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User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8521 times:

Quoting USAirways304 (Thread starter):
Anyone have an idea about the future plans at PIT? US Airways has increased some flights, but yet many gates remain unused (E Concourse is a ghost town). Anyone heard of any possible hub plans by other carriers?

Here is the link to the main PIT thread right now.

Rumor: US To Add More Flights To PIT (by Luketenley Mar 26 2007 in Civil Aviation)

E Gates hasn't been used for a few years. The northern most wing was torn down last week actually to make room for a new baggage facility. Pics are available in the link above. You'll have to scroll down of course. I took them from gate D85. As far as future plans... we have that new Myrtle Beach Direct Air and another express- like airline starting flights to Morgantown I think. Just heard that today. I guess it was in a newspaper somewhere.. either Post Gazette or Beaver County Times. DL is upgrading 3 destinations. The newly started SLC flights will now be on a MD90 instead of a CRJ- 900. An ATL flight will be a 757 and a CVG will now be a 737. WN has just added BWI service and remodeled gate A5. Rumors are going around now about US adding 40- some flights and possibly adding a Frankfurt international frequency. No definate info on those though. If you need more info, send me a PM.

[Edited 2007-04-14 07:23:38]


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8509 times:

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 3):
we have that new Myrtle Beach Direct Air and another express- like airline starting flights to Morgantown I think.

Morgantown, Parkersburg and Clarksburg via Colgan Air Saab340Bs.

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 3):
DL is upgrading 3 destinations. The newly started SLC flights will now be on a MD90 instead of a CRJ- 900. An ATL flight will be a 757 and a CVG will now be a 737.

All of this upgraded service on DL, as I said in another thread, would be supremely sweet! It would be like it was in the good ol' days of decent pax crowds at PIT!

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 3):
Rumors are going around now about US adding 40- some flights and possibly adding a Frankfurt international frequency. No definate info on those though.

I think this would be incredible if in fact it does wind up happening!



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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8506 times:

Why do I sense this becoming another 100+ reply PIT thread?  Wink

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 3):
e have that new Myrtle Beach Direct Air and another express- like airline starting flights to Morgantown I think

They're flying to Myrtle Beach...hence the name.  Wink I believe they'll share D79 with Continental and fly 737-200's to MYR a couple times a week. I know they're also flying to EWR and IAG from MYR.


User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8502 times:

Quoting N670UW (Reply 5):
They're flying to Myrtle Beach...hence the name. I believe they'll share D79 with Continental and fly 737-200's to MYR a couple times a week. I know they're also flying to EWR and IAG from MYR.

The Morgantown flights was meant for the express airline, not Myrtle Beach Direct Air. I know there they fly to. HAHA



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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8497 times:

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 6):
The Morgantown flights was meant for the express airline, not Myrtle Beach Direct Air. I know there they fly to. HAHA

LOL.

The US Express carrier is Colgan taking over the EAS routes to MGW, CKB, and PKB that RegionsAir abandoned/was forced from. Air Midwest used to fly those routes.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8485 times:

Quoting N670UW (Reply 5):
Why do I sense this becoming another 100+ reply PIT thread?

Euuuh... not sure bud. I wonder why you sense that as well  Smile

Quoting N670UW (Reply 7):
Colgan taking over the EAS routes to MGW, CKB, and PKB that RegionsAir abandoned/was forced from.

When I hear that routes were discontinued, I think of loads or yields. It turns out that Regions Air had a lousey product/performance on the route because of who they were; not because of the CLE service. I do not remember the specifics of the problem with Regions Air, other than just that, they were horrible. Hopefully Colgan can make it work...



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User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8474 times:

Quoting N670UW (Reply 5):
Why do I sense this becoming another 100+ reply PIT thread?

Alot of us PIT supporters around!



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8464 times:

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 9):
Alot of us PIT supporters around!

And many of us who are supremely vocal over PIT... yours truely, Luke, CentPIT, PITSpeedbird, PITrules is another one I believe...

I wonder if we're all fans of the Steelers, Pirates and Pens, too. Luke, I know you are! Reason being... we're all so loyal to PIT  Smile



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User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8460 times:

Well again for those of you that don't know, I live the same distance from PIT, CLE, CAK. When I first moved back here in December PIT was the cheapest in almost every market I was searching and booking, so I flew PIT. Well I had to book two more trips today and CLE was cheaper, so I booked CLE. Yesterday I flew on CAK because they were the only ones who had a seat open from Boston . . .

Anyhow PIT is a fantastic airport and is certainly my pick of three as it is extremely easy to navigate, never too crowded (but not a ghost town like CAK), and parking is excellent.

How long is DL running that 757 to ATL? I was doing some searches on their schedule and I did not see it. I fly back to ATL quite often but most recently booked on CO to ATL from CLE. The expressjet service to ATL is always quite reliable with a decent fare and an A seat by itself.

Anyhow, add me to the camp of hoping for expansion at PIT (along with low fares). I do worry though that PIT might chase B6 out of town which will cost us . . . literally. I would also love to see FL expansion but I doubt that is unlikely seeing their original experience at PIT, however one should note that a lot has changed since then.

Here's to PIT!!  trophy 


User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8444 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 10):
And many of us who are supremely vocal over PIT... yours truely, Luke, CentPIT, PITSpeedbird, PITrules is another one I believe...

I wonder if we're all fans of the Steelers, Pirates and Pens, too. Luke, I know you are! Reason being... we're all so loyal to PIT

Need to start some sort of group somewhere for us all to discuss stuff instead of clogging a.net with our wishing haha.

And yeah I am a lover of all those sports teams... just wish our Buccos could do better!



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User currently offlineBigJimFX From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8420 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 10):
Quoting Luketenley (Reply 9):
Alot of us PIT supporters around!

And many of us who are supremely vocal over PIT... yours truely, Luke, CentPIT, PITSpeedbird, PITrules is another one I believe...

I wonder if we're all fans of the Steelers, Pirates and Pens, too. Luke, I know you are! Reason being... we're all so loyal to PIT Smile

Add me to that list. I love PIT. I grew up in JST and my family moved to DFW. Granted I'm not up there anymore to keep track of things as much as I'd like... and I have another airport to look after now... But I try to keep up with some of the goings on here on A.net. I so miss the days of direct service to PIT from DFW. Even on the E-170 operated by the now bankrupt MidAtlantic. I'm a huge Steelers fan, kind of a Penguin fan and... eh... Kinda a Pirate fan. (I can't get into baseball unless I'm there.) I remember the days of Greater Pittsburgh Airport (Kinda... I'm a young buck) But I love PIT. I do miss the past glory and am sickened by the change to a focus city. I just wish there was more I can do other than booking flights through PIT. You guys are great for helping to keep me in the loop and I appreciate it. Thanks guys!



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User currently offlinePITSpeedbird From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8362 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 11):
never too crowded (but not a ghost town like CAK), and parking is excellent.



Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 13):
kind of a Penguin fan and...

well lets hope it does get more crowded!

Add BA service to my wish list! I lived in London for 12 years. Boy I wish I was here when the old 747 used to
come here!

Big game tonite! Its time for all the fair weather hockey fans to come out of the woodwork (cough cough!)

PITSpeedbird



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User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8303 times:

Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 13):
Add me to that list. I love PIT. I grew up in JST and my family moved to DFW. Granted I'm not up there anymore to keep track of things as much as I'd like... and I have another airport to look after now... But I try to keep up with some of the goings on here on A.net. I so miss the days of direct service to PIT from DFW. Even on the E-170 operated by the now bankrupt MidAtlantic. I'm a huge Steelers fan, kind of a Penguin fan and... eh... Kinda a Pirate fan. (I can't get into baseball unless I'm there.) I remember the days of Greater Pittsburgh Airport (Kinda... I'm a young buck) But I love PIT. I do miss the past glory and am sickened by the change to a focus city. I just wish there was more I can do other than booking flights through PIT. You guys are great for helping to keep me in the loop and I appreciate it. Thanks guys!

Well welcome to the new PIT supporters group! haha



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8285 times:

Quoting PITSpeedbird (Reply 14):
Add BA service to my wish list! I lived in London for 12 years. Boy I wish I was here when the old 747 used to
come here!

I was up close and personal with a Boeing 744 some time in 1993 before BA reduced their 744 service to 767. The bird was parked at C61, all the way at the end of the concourse. I just remember having to look up to see the cockpit, and those enormous engines!!

Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 13):
I remember the days of Greater Pittsburgh Airport (Kinda... I'm a young buck)

I have a vivid memory of that terminal, and you're not that young!!! We're about the same age...

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 11):
I would also love to see FL expansion but I doubt that is unlikely seeing their original experience at PIT, however one should note that a lot has changed since then.

I don't think FL will do any expansion at all... They had a big window of opportunity in 2004 to add service, but WN beat 'em to it... Even at that, I don't think FL was interested anyway. I think they turned their focus to other cities to and from their ATL base...

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 12):
just wish our Buccos could do better!

The WERE doing better!! I don't know what the deal was against St. Louis!!! We're back below 500 now... our uusual selves...  sarcastic 

Quoting PITSpeedbird (Reply 14):
Big game tonite! Its time for all the fair weather hockey fans to come out of the woodwork (cough cough!)

Yeah, I don't want to see our team out of the game after the first round!



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User currently offlineLuketenley From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8219 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16):
I don't think FL will do any expansion at all... They had a big window of opportunity in 2004 to add service, but WN beat 'em to it... Even at that, I don't think FL was interested anyway. I think they turned their focus to other cities to and from their ATL base...

Plus they have a decent operation in CAK.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8168 times:

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 17):
Plus they have a decent operation in CAK.

They serve BOS, LGA, ATL, MCO, Tampa, Ft. Lauderdale, and Ft. Myers. That's quite a presence there at CAK. A PIT build up of FL would likely canibalize CAK in my opinion...



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8131 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 11):
Well again for those of you that don't know, I live the same distance from PIT, cle, CAK.

What do you do with your car (assuming that's how you get to/from airports)? I have a similar problem with BWI, DCA, and IAD all being about a 40-minute drive; arriving at one airport when my car is at another is a huge pain.



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User currently offlineUSAirways304 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8099 times:

[
Colgan taking over the EAS routes to MGW, CKB, and PKB that RegionsAir abandoned/was forced from.

When I hear that routes were discontinued, I think of loads or yields. It turns out that Regions Air had a lousey product/performance on the route because of who they were; not because of the CLE service. I do not remember the specifics of the problem with Regions Air, other than just that, they were horrible. Hopefully Colgan can make it work...[/quote]

The airport authorities in MGW, CKB, and PKB got together and decided they were unhappy with the 5 flights a day to PIT (Beech 1900D) with Air Midwest. So, they thought they would find another carrier to fly a larger aircraft (flight attendant and lavatory) with the same number of flights. The airport authorities thought more people would fly if they had an opportunity to use the restroom during the 25 minute flight to PIT. RegionsAir started service with a SF3 to Cleveland. US Airways would not codeshare with them. So a 25 minute flight, turned into a 1 hr 45 minute flight with a connection. You can imagine the increase in fare as well. Instead of spending some marketing dollars while Air Midwest was operating, they chose to completely screw up the system.


User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8077 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 19):
What do you do with your car

Normally I don't fly out of one and into another but in rare cases when I have to (like earlier this week) I have my wife drop me off and pick me up.


User currently offlinePIT From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7989 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 2):
I can't believe DL's service at PIT.

I just flew from PIT to JFK to TXL and From ZUR to ATL to PIT. Both PIT flights were overbooked.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7907 times:

Quoting PIT" class=quote target=_blank>PIT (Reply 22):
Both PIT flights were overbooked.

PIT to JFK? Wow, and that is all RJ service I believe. What aircraft were you on for the ATL-PIT flight, was it an MD88?



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 3):
Rumors are going around now about US adding 40- some flights and possibly adding a Frankfurt international frequency.


Would be great to see an A330 Rotate off 28 R....again...
I Remember when i was 15 or 16 and i saw it Rotating...man...one of the best things i've ever seen.

By The way...just to introduce myself...haven't really posted anything on the PIT threads...but read them avidly...
Back in the day when the old terminal was around, my dad used to take me to the observation deck they had there?...anyone remember that?....like a room upstairs from the main concourse with big windows?...

Anyway...grew up in the Pittsburgh area ( South hills) and now here in Columbus, OH...Still an avid Steelers and Pens fan.

on another note...does anyone else think that Skybus would do Extremely well....in Pittsburgh?



P.S. GO PENS!

[Edited 2007-04-15 06:32:00]

25 Captaink : Did my US Airways training in PIT, oh some 4/5 years ago. Not too long when you think about. During my job training I used to enjoy working the Envoy
26 BigJimFX : Don't know about RegionsAir, and my knowledge of Air Midwest is just what I see here at DFW, but I have always been very impressed with the service I
27 Luketenley : US still uses that one whole section of the Landside building (the north end). On the opposite side of the ticket counters is the TSA baggage check a
28 Post contains images Steeler83 : Well, welcome aboard the PIT threads!!! Yeah, I remember that. I used to hang out there. I really remember there being an observation area off the pa
29 Post contains links Steeler83 : PIT's most recent traffic numbers are in: http://www.pitairport.com/NewsEventsServlet They show US Airways continuing to lose passengers year over yea
30 PITSpeedbird : I am sure that this will happen this year with the increase in US flights out of PIT!! (fingers crossed) PITSpeedbird
31 Luketenley : They are pretty slow updating the site. Last update was March 1st. That's sad. Probably won't get the announcement of them upgrading till next April
32 Flaps : Whats happening right now is a lot of wind. I watched two WN 737's getting whipped on approach to 28L with nearly full aileron defelection in both dir
33 Steeler83 : ROYALLY sad! Ummm let's see, DL CRJ service on SLC-PIT going MD90 service within a few months... I'd say that is HUGE news!!! I was supremely disappo
34 ATLAaron : I am concerned about the fares recently at PIT. I have booked three roundtrips in the last week all out of CLE because each route was cheaper than PIT
35 ATLAaron : How can I find similar numbers for CLE? I searched their website but I could not find anything.
36 Luketenley : Which airlines were you looking at? If I was working there, I would have it updated. I was watching some Dash 8s take off this evening and it looked
37 ATLAaron : Basically all, because I start out my search on Expedia.
38 Logos : I remember that as well. I can remember the old PIT airport before US put in that extra pier. My first flight into PIT was in 1974 on a TWA 727-100 w
39 Post contains images Steeler83 : Boy, that I do not remember. US built that pier in 1980-1981 after US changed their name from "Agony" Airlines to USAir. They'd be in need of more sp
40 N670UW : No, UA doesn't fly LAX-PIT. That 757 arrives from ORD (and returns to ORD). However, it will be switching to a ORD-PIT-DEN routing this summer.
41 ATCT : Yea thats because we werent planning on code-sharing with scareways...it was supposed to be Delta outta CVG originally. Get your facts straight. Anyw
42 Logos : They did have a pretty good sized operation at that time. The flight we came in on was routed DEN-ORD-PIT (actually in 1975, now that I think about i
43 Post contains images Steeler83 : Oh. Someone told me it was... I guess the facts aren't straight... You're right. You have been on the PIT threads quite frequently over the past year
44 Luketenley : I could've swore the monitors said UA had a LAX flight. I could see US having high fares but not WN and some others. Has to be temporary.
45 N670UW : Maybe it was a UA codeshare on the US flight. I believe those monitors usually flash the codeshare numbers along with the regular flight numbers.
46 Luketenley : I just know it is a UA 757 with the destination of Los Angeles. Not sure the codeshare.
47 Vega : UA only uses 737s and CRJs for PIT and does not offer any non-stops or through flights to either LAX or SFO. The equipment may have been a 1 time sub
48 Luketenley : The UA 757 is there 6 days a week (Sun- Fri). What' the explaination for that one?
49 Logos : I'm just guessing, but could it be a routing like LAX-ORD-PIT or PIT-ORD-LAX where it would show Los Angeles as a terminal point on a direct flight b
50 Vega : I believe I adequately covered the possible reasons in my earlier post. I believe you stated that you work at the PIT airport. If that's the case, wh
51 Pgh234 : UA does indeed have a 757 from ORD scheduled to PIT from now until the forseeable future. It has been around for a few months. Today, the 757 flight o
52 Vega : You are correct, however the 757 is a temporary swap and unless UA makes a last minute change, 429 will revert back to a 737 by May 1st. Regardless,
53 Tornado82 : Temporary, eh? United's Chicago-bound 757 has been there since the Christmas season under various flight numbers. There is still a 757 coming to PIT
54 ATLAaron : Seems they do the same thing with ORD-CLE. A 757 with a flight number routinely changing, today it is Flt 661, in a couple of weeks it goes to 1215.
55 Post contains images Steeler83 : Welcome back ol' chap! Now that is a nice variety of aircraft in UA paint! Now if only AA had mainline metal back PIT would be set According to the l
56 Post contains images Tornado82 : If you want to see that, take a drive out I-70 to CMH or DAY. Not going to be seeing it in Pittsburgh for quite some time, as union vs management pol
57 Luketenley : Yeah you read that right. Seven airlines reported growth and US reported drops in passenger numbers. Too busy most of the time to just walk around an
58 Post contains images Tornado82 : Before you get flamed for this, I'll gently give a friendly reminder that a 757-200 isn't "heavy" and none of US, UA, or DL run the 753 to my knowled
59 IC408 : All 757's are "heavy" for wake turbulence purposes and identified as such by ATC
60 Luketenley : Thank you. I thought it was. It as heavy as we get it PIT anyways. haha
61 BlueElephant : Hopefully not for long. I am thinking that PIT will get Transatlantic flights soon. IIRC LH is not going to fly to CLT anymore, but I think PIT would
62 Luketenley : We all hope we get transatlantic flights back. Too many empty gates in C Concourse. Pens aren't looking too good. They have to win tomorrow!
63 Post contains images ATCT : Actually no they are not heavies. 757-200's that is. A boeing 757-300 will be identified on the radio as "Continental 45 Heavy" because it is a heavy
64 Post contains images Steeler83 : Uhh, I wouldn't be so sure as to say that CLT will lose LH. Someone else may have thought that, but they (LH) are just changing the equipment. They w
65 IC408 : sorry ATCT is correct ... 752's are not "called" heavy even though they are treated as such. only 753's are actually designated as heavy by ATC.
66 Luketenley : Didn't know there was such a difference between the 2.
67 Tornado82 : Sorry to open that can o' worms... but if we're done with them, can I take them fishing?
68 Luketenley : Sure.. wait for the weather to get warmer first.
69 Post contains images IADCRJ : Even though it will be an RJ, I am thrilled to see that UA has added a third DEN - PIT - DEN flight in addtion to the 757 upgrade on one of these fli
70 IADCRJ : I grew up in Mt. Lebanon and an alumus from Mt. Lebo high too.
71 IADCRJ : Also another clarification regarding this, is that UA has recently ran a one stop PIT - LAX route via DEN as of a couple of weeks ago.
72 Post contains images IADCRJ : By the way too, I still miss the classic UA 727s and 737-200s that used to traditionally fly into PIT regulary from ORD
73 IADCRJ : Another thing I would like to ask here on this post is how the new DL / Skywest PIT - SLC - PIT route doing?
74 Pgh234 : Well, I suppose it has been doing fairly well...since It will be upgraded to an MD-90 this summer. -pgh234
75 Luketenley : Via flightaware, the 752 did go to ORD from PIT yesterday.
76 Tooluther : Me too...random.
77 Post contains images IADCRJ : I do not mean to deviate from the topic, but it is very interesting to hear my neck of the woods being discussed here on airliners
78 Logos : It is interesting how much Pittsburgh stays with people throughout their lives. It seems to always be home for those who come from there no matter ho
79 Post contains images IADCRJ : I have been living in DEN for nearly six months now and cannot still reconize Denver as being home to me now. PIT always has and always will be home
80 Post contains images IADCRJ : To help get back on the main topic again, I have been in PHX for work the past couple of days. Upon arriving here at the PHX airport, and seeing all o
81 Luketenley : One thing we will never see in PIT again.
82 USAirways304 : RegionsAir initially wanted to codeshare with Delta out of CVG. Delta refused to meet with executives from RegionsAir. Airport officials from Parkers
83 Post contains images Steeler83 : Not going to be Skywest for much longer, man... DL will be removing the CR9... - - - - And replacing it/upgrading it to an MD90 on that route!!!
84 Post contains images ATCT : Im not slingin mud here....but I was at our HQ watching this paperwork shuffle unfold Anywho Tornado82 regarding Fox Whiskey...(FWQ)...Nah im in Hous
85 Steeler83 : Hey, and regarding the MD90 service to SLC... get a look at this! Below is a link for the seating chart for DL 1705, the MD90 bound for SLC from PIT:
86 Luketenley : Wow I am shocked. I knew it would fill up but not that fast. Can't wait for the stats over the summer!!
87 Steeler83 : Yeah! And I also looked at the bookings for June 7, when the change over starts... Only SEVENTEEN SEATS REMAIN! That is a 90% load factor!
88 Luketenley : WOW!!!! That's nuts!! Good job DL!!
89 IADCRJ : It sounds like that this PIT - SLC flight was too much of a success if this is the case. I am sort of surprised why a oo CRJ900 was initially operate
90 Luketenley : It is almost full in the beginning of June as well.
91 Steeler83 : He's right. Look at my above post about 17 seats remaining on the 150-seat MD90. June 7 is when the change-over to the MD90 begins, as also stated in
92 Luketenley : Taken from a.net.... 737-800 - Typical two class seating for 162 with 12 first class passengers at four abreast and 91cm (36in) pitch and 150 economy
93 Steeler83 : Thanks, so it is slightly larger than the MD90 pretty much. 12 additional seats in coach.
94 Logos : Delta actually only puts 150 on their 738 (16 +134 as opposed to 12 + 138 on the M90), so it would be the same capacity with slightly more F seats (s
95 Logos : And just for grins & giggles... Delta Aircraft Range Number of Seats Video Premium Economy Total 737-800(738) 2,700 16 134 150 Yes 757-200(757) 2,900
96 Steeler83 : Wow. So then if they were to replace the MD90 and put that on a different route, then the 738 would be a rather good aircraft to replace it with. Unle
97 Slcdeltarumd11 : I looked up some dates i am pretty impressed at the strong loads already on this flight for the summer. Im not that surprised I think PIT is unrated a
98 Flaps : WN is advertising $39 flights to PHL again. Havent seen that in a while. Perhaps the new BWI flights are siphoning off some PIT-PHL traffic? I for one
99 Post contains images Steeler83 : All I would ever use PIT for would be PHL or BWI to PIT myself. I would just love to see it become a successful market for somebody besides US hopeful
100 PIT : I wouldn't be surprised to see DL to upgrade one or two flights from/to JFK. They are always full. United used to run the 757 on occasion to PIT. I th
101 IADCRJ : This could perhaps be the reason now why UA finally added a third PIT - DEN flight and upgraded one of these flights finally to a 757. These PIT-DEN-
102 PIT : Why pay more when you can do it for less and still get the same result? Also since they did that they were able to add more non-stop destinations ins
103 IADCRJ : They have been running one regulary for the past couple of months to ORD. Another PIT- LAX / SFO route by any airlne would be a HUGE asset for PIT an
104 IADCRJ : The only new destination that AA added out of PIT after Eagle took over the show over a year ago was PIT - LGA, but however all of their flights to P
105 Luketenley : During busy times, USs' ticket counters are a zoo. I don't think they would be able to give up any space right now. I was actually thinking today tha
106 Steeler83 : I don't think so. AA has always had their gates at the end of D, but TWA had a couple of gates in the C concourse. I forget who has those gates now.
107 Luketenley : We do miss the AA mainline. During the last Nor' easter, I saw a MD80 sitting at one of AA's gates. Was a nice little suprise. I doubt DL would add a
108 Post contains images Steeler83 : I don't think such an expansion of DL would be likely either, just making a statement that it would be neat is all It would've been neat to see that
109 PennPal : Sorry to be joining this thread so late, but please include me in the "PIT Fan" list. I've never lived in Pittsburgh, but I was born just a short trip
110 USAirways304 : Was talking to a travel reporter for the Gazette this morning... She let me in on a bit of "coming" news... According to the Gazette, British Airways
111 Pgh234 : I'll believe that when I see it... (Although BA is still paying to this day for their long term gate lease on Concourse C). I really think US or LH s
112 Molykote : This would be to LGW, right? I wonder how US wasn't able to justify PIT-LGW while BA can. Maybe it was due to a lack of suitable airplanes for US (al
113 Post contains images ATCT : Nah the old TWA gates now belong to AirTran. Funny that the two airlins to fly 717's into PIT went into the same gate. (Except Midwest). America West
114 Vega : From the standpoint of BA starting PIT-LGW service, I suggest that is a far fetched notion. BA looks at a simple algorithm in determining route viabi
115 Flaps : I have to agree with Vega. With no connecting feed the only way to make it work would be a multi-stop. Even with that said, I find it a little hard to
116 Tornado82 : Couldn't agree more. Stranger things have happened, but I'd expect PIT to FRA long before PIT gets a flight to London-pick'em, but I wouldn't be surp
117 Luketenley : I know it's nothing crazy though.... but I wish I would've had my camera with me. Welcome aboard. Ummmm.... haven't heard any rumors floating around
118 Steeler83 : I also agree with Vega's statements regarding future transatlantic service. I don't see BA bringing back service... at all, really. I think if London
119 Luketenley : It's closed and boarded off but the area is still the same as it was when it was open. I guess it was really nice inside. Off suject... I wish some o
120 Post contains images Steeler83 : I don't think it's too much off subject... It is PIT-related, and this is a "PIT-related" thread, is it not??? Even at that, Delta would be atop this
121 Luketenley : Yeah. Very good airline right now. All the airlines in D Concourse should have clubs IMO.
122 Steeler83 : Even NW? What have they done to come out of bk. I saw a little while back that they were supposed to exit shortly. What is going on with them?
123 Luketenley : Well maybe not them. Kinda forgot about them haha. CO and DL and possibly AA could use clubs. Maybe UA?
124 Call911mfc : Thanks goodness RegionsAir is finally out. Usually one plane flying from here (PKB) to CLE was down for maintenance and it's affected the enplanement
125 Steeler83 : It would be nice to see PSA adding 40-some flights back at PIT. I am still not quite sold on that yet (It's still only a rumor...), but it would defi
126 Logos : That's true. BA had something like a 25% ownership stake in US at that time, IIRC, and was hoping that it would open up the US to them in a way that
127 Luketenley : I heard from a ramp tower worker that PSA was adding 20 to 30 flights here soon. Not sure exact date.
128 Tornado82 : I'm assuming this is that block of new flights US is adding that includes MHT and stuff?
129 BlueElephant : A Very Good Point...And i Think they could make it work with a service like, STL-PIT-LHR with a 777. and if American increased their service in PIT.
130 Luketenley : I would assume as well. Wouldn't that be nice!!! They could do something like PHX- PIT- then to UK... or PIT- PHL- to UK. They used to do that in the
131 Steeler83 : Awwww... the Triple 7... *as Homer:* ooooooooooohhhhh, the Boeing 777... aaaahhhhhhhhhh I believe when BA had 747 service from 1985 to 1993, they did
132 Post contains links Vega : For PIT fans: http://www.usaviation.com/forums/ind...x.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=5929
133 Logos : That's awesome! Worth flying US for that alone. Cheers, Dave in Orlando
134 Post contains images BHD : Hey just wanted to say I'm not that familiar with PIT as live many miles away in Belfast, UK, and normally wouldn't have the need for going to such an
135 Post contains images Steeler83 : " target=_blank>http://www.usaviation.com/forums/ind...=5929 Now THAT is BY FAR the BEST DAMN US LIVERY aht there!! Black and Gold All the way baby!!!
136 Post contains images Tornado82 : Beautiful jet, even though it is an Airbus. Too bad we hardly ever see mainline in PIT anymore so we'll rarely see it. At least the Steelers give thei
137 Post contains images Steeler83 : I feel like listening to Styx' "Renegade" now... Oh momma, I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law...   Now if, like Tornado82 said abov
138 ATCT : Regarding BA, I could see them re-instating London-PIT with a 767...also a trhough to STL would be an option to connect with AA schtuff. I could also
139 Steeler83 : I would like to see that as well. Ultimately the airlines have to see this in order for it to become a reality unfortuneatly...
140 Luketenley : " target=_blank>http://www.usaviation.com/forums/ind...=5929 HOLY CRAP!!! That's awesome!!! Can't wait to see it. Are they painting it in Pittsburgh l
141 Tooluther : So have we confirmed that's what the Steelers jet will look like? Ifrnso, the bigger question is, will the logo only be on one side of therntail?!
142 Flyorski : LH does not fly the A345. They flew that route with the A343X. Now PIT NEEDS LH to compete directly to europe. I think FRA could be done with the A33
143 Post contains images Steeler83 : Uhh, yeah that's what I ment. Thanks for the correction. Woah, simmer dahn there. AFAIK, those statements about BA returning are only rumors as of no
144 Pgh234 : Hey everyone, I have my own unrelated question... Where did this summer's non-stop PIT-MHT/PWM flights on US go? They've been on again/off again in th
145 Pgh234 : Also, while glancing around...It looks like NW is upgrading a PIT-MEM to a D95 this summer. I believe this is the first time that mainline NW metal ha
146 Flyusairways : I've been wondering that myself for a while now. The flights were showing up on the US schedules, but were not available for booking. So, I emailed U
147 Tornado82 : Excellent. FedEx is based in MEM, but Fed Ex Ground (the old RPS) is in Moon Twp/PIT. Probably alot of O&D flyers shuttling between the 2 Fed Ex big
148 Pgh234 : Thanks for the info! (or lack there of. ha) I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed for PWM. -pgh234
149 Steeler83 : A D95 is a DC9-50 I am assuming, right I do find that rather funny that the air and grounds operations would be in two different parts of the country.
150 Tornado82 : Correct Don't complain... that's the only way those jobs stayed in the 'burgh, if not they'd be in MEM. They're logistically two different operations
151 ATLAaron : Used to be two different companies right? Then FedEx brought them together?
152 Tornado82 : Correct, sir.
153 Luketenley : Would be nice if they (FedEx) would expand their air ops here.
154 Post contains images Steeler83 : It would be, but they have a bit operation at EWR as well... I have pretty much argued caro facilities (Moon TWP, etc) and what have you to the point
155 KPWMSpotter : It doesn't look like PWM or MHT will be getting the non-stop to PIT this year at least. There's nothing left in the schedules regarding the flights,
156 Flaps : I worked for FedEx for 16 years. Express and Ground are two completely separate companies with very different missions. They are complementary in ter
157 Tornado82 : Along with LCK, CLE, and the major hub in IND. They get around all over. PIT's FedEx air presence is nothing major at all. Try being at IND after abo
158 Luketenley : Bringing this topic back to life..... I was walking around the airport the Friday night and noticed that DL had a 737 and 757 overnighting at gates 76
159 N670UW : The 737-800 goes to CVG in the morning and the 757 arrives from ATL in the evening and returns the next morning. However, the 738 will be downgraded
160 PITSpeedbird : I had heard rumors in the past of a middle eastern airline - perhaps emirates?? opening up a "US" hub at PIT. Can anyone confirm or deny this? PITSpee
161 Post contains images Vega : Right, immediately after Qantas starts PIT-SYD non-stop.
162 Luketenley : I haven't heard any rumors about this yet. I seriously doubt this will happen. We need some international flights but no need for a international hub
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