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Jet Star Passengers Stranded In HNL For 2 Days  
User currently offlineSafs From Australia, joined Dec 2005, 199 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

Seems that it's happening to JQ again! 300 passengers are stranded in HNL due to a problem with JQ's A330-200.

http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/300...nded-in-honolulu/20070915-7kr.html

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21556635-949,00.html

The same thing happened to me on the inagural flight from MEL to HNL. Does anyone know the registration of the plane? It would be interesting to see if it is VH-EBB, the same aircraft we had problems with.

You can read the trip report here:

Jet Star Inaugural Flight MEL - HNL Delayed (pics) (by Safs Jan 11 2007 in Trip Reports)

Safs

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

Not the worst place to be stuck!!!  Smile


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5302 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7862 times:

Hi Safs, the aircraft in question is VH-EBA

JQ only have 4 aircraft and if 1 goes U/S then there are going to be delays!

I don't think there next lot are due until August?


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12278 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7793 times:
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Quoting Safs (Thread starter):
VH-EBB,

I saw VH-EBB at SYD yesterday, and I think it was operating the SYD-HNL flight


User currently offlineThePalauan From Guam, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7720 times:

Quoting Safs (Thread starter):
300 passengers are stranded in HNL

No, no, no... You don't get stranded in Hawaii. You just unexpectedly extend your vacation!!  Big grin



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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2568 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7702 times:

Quoting ThePalauan (Reply 4):
No, no, no... You don't get stranded in Hawaii. You just unexpectedly extend your vacation!!

Even in Hawaii, if you have to sit around a terminal for a day or so because your aircraft is broken and all the hotel rooms are booked (spring break) and there's nothing to eat but some greasy Chinese food and Burger King (Hungry Jack's for all you Aussies), then yes it should be called getting stranded.  Wink

HAL



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User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7625 times:

What is the dispatch reliability of the A332?

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7617 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Not the worst place to be stuck!!!

I got to agree on that one.



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User currently offlineReality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7583 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 7):
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Not the worst place to be stuck!!!

I got to agree on that one.

I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone would think that being stuck at an airport is a great thing to happen--regardless of where the airport is. There's no beach at the airport. You keep being told the plane will leave soon, or the next morning. And then it does not. Sounds awful to me.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7578 times:

Quoting Reality (Reply 8):
You keep being told the plane will leave soon, or the next morning. And then it does not. Sounds awful to me.

Sounds like the airline didn't step up to the plate like they should have, but I don't blame the state of Hawaii for that.



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User currently offlineDownunderflyer From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7485 times:

"But the plane has not left the ground, and Jetstar said it had been unable to charter another aircraft or find seats for the stranded passengers."

Could they not find seats or an aircraft or is it alot cheaper to let people sit around in an airport and then put then in a hotel for a couple of hours. Air NZ had a flight out on friday night via AKL and Air Canada do HNL-SYD Daily - you can't tell me they were completely full. Will not do Qantas's image any good either as they quite happily market the flight as Qantas so Oneworld members and people from not downunder here will be thinking they are travelling on a trusted brand of Qantas not there cheap off shoot Jetstar.

Just wait to till the qantas buyout when the new owners have billions of dollars of debt to take care of - then you will be lucky to get a free bottle of water for a 2 day delay.


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7409 times:

Quoting Reality (Reply 8):
I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone would think that being stuck at an airport is a great thing to happen--regardless of where the airport is. There's no beach at the airport. You keep being told the plane will leave soon, or the next morning. And then it does not. Sounds awful to me.

The City Bus goes to HNL just pay a buck or two and just go down to Waikiki stop.  Smile



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User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7357 times:

Quoting Downunderflyer (Reply 10):
Just wait to till the qantas buyout when the new owners have billions of dollars of debt to take care of - then you will be lucky to get a free bottle of water for a 2 day delay.

Maybe so, but to be fair in this case JQ is an LCC by every definition. They got the passengers (who had only paid an LCC fare) to where they were going eventually. Considering the fare paid and the airline concerned you clearly get what you pay for when the the aircraft goes tech far from home. I know that sounds harsh but that's the truth of it.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7337 times:

Quoting Reality (Reply 8):
I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone would think that being stuck at an airport is a great thing to happen--regardless of where the airport is

If you are going to be there for two days, you don't have to sit at the airport for 2 days.

They will (or should) tell you when the plane will leave, and you should be able to go and do whatever the hell you want. A real airline would put them up in a hotel. Who knows what JQ does, since they are an LCC.



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User currently offlineJbguller From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7168 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
They will (or should) tell you when the plane will leave

...from the news reports and reports from the passengers arriving home today, they weren't told anything about when the plane would leave, meaning that they had to stay in the gate lounge until the plane was ready to board.

Not the best customer service an airline can give if these reports are correct...!!!


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3666 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7153 times:
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Quoting Downunderflyer (Reply 10):
"But the plane has not left the ground, and Jetstar said it had been unable to charter another aircraft or find seats for the stranded passengers."

Could they not find seats or an aircraft or is it alot cheaper to let people sit around in an airport and then put then in a hotel for a couple of hours. Air NZ had a flight out on friday night via AKL and Air Canada do HNL-SYD Daily - you can't tell me they were completely full.

Well, its not like there are any airlines with aircraft just sitting around at HNL that they could charter. Even if you could get a replacement aircraft to HNL, it would still take another day before they could leave because of crew duty regulations. Also, if you read the Brisbane Times article it does say that some pax were rebooked onto Air Canada.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12278 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7111 times:
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Quoting ThePalauan (Reply 4):
Quoting Safs (Thread starter):
300 passengers are stranded in HNL

No, no, no... You don't get stranded in Hawaii. You just unexpectedly extend your vacation!!

Now that sound VERY good to me, if only my NZ flight back from HNL last August was cancelled  Sad

Quoting HAL (Reply 5):
Even in Hawaii, if you have to sit around a terminal for a day or so because your aircraft is broken and all the hotel rooms are booked (spring break) and there's nothing to eat but some greasy Chinese food and Burger King (Hungry Jack's for all you Aussies), then yes it should be called getting stranded.

Or for us, its called being in Heaven, with all those open walkways and hardly anything to contend with for taking pics.

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 11):
Quoting Reality (Reply 8):
I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone would think that being stuck at an airport is a great thing to happen--regardless of where the airport is. There's no beach at the airport. You keep being told the plane will leave soon, or the next morning. And then it does not. Sounds awful to me.

The City Bus goes to HNL just pay a buck or two and just go down to Waikiki stop.

Not the best idea, especially when the aircraft could be fixed while your in town, and then you miss your flight. It only pays to leave the airport if the airline lets you.


User currently offlineEasyas321 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7014 times:

no wonfer evryone jokes about JUNKSTAR !!!

User currently offlineVH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6979 times:

As a consequence - a friend of mine in Melbourne tells me! - JetStar had to charter a QF B767-300 to operate its MEL-DPS-MEL service over Sat/Sun. I know that they don't usually like to do this because QF charge them commercial rates, no favours done here just because its a sister airline!

Cheers - BZF



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User currently offlineSafs From Australia, joined Dec 2005, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6904 times:

When our JQ flight was grounded overnight due to the fuel leak, (JQ Inaugural flight MEL to HNL) customer service was lacking. I echo the comments made by passengers on this current JQ flight how they were kept in the dark.

As more incidences like this happen, staff at JQ need further training in customer service!


User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6862 times:

For 95% of people Jetstart = Qantas. It's about time QF woke up to the fact that JQ is doing Qf real harm. Buy a QF ticket and get a ticket that says "operated by Jetstar" . I guarantee those people were not sent to the beach for a day of relaxation.

There's also QF4 - I wonder how many were put on that?



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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5302 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6828 times:

Quoting Reality (Reply 8):
You keep being told the plane will leave soon, or the next morning. And then it does not. Sounds awful to me.

Yes it does sound awful, but I doubt it would have been much different if it had been a QF flight. There have been numerous situations with QF where similar things poor cimmunications have happened.

Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 20):
It's about time QF woke up to the fact that JQ is doing Qf real harm. Buy

I doubt QF really care. They act in similar ways with some cancellations


User currently offlineEasyas321 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6813 times:

Quoting VH-BZF (Reply 18):
As a consequence - a friend of mine in Melbourne tells me! - JetStar had to charter a QF B767-300 to operate its MEL-DPS-MEL service over Sat/Sun. I know that they don't usually like to do this because QF charge them commercial rates, no favours done here just because its a sister airline!

Did any money change hands or was it just a journal entry ?


User currently offlineStar_member From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6766 times:

just flew back from maroochydore this afternoon on jetstar and am not surprised this was handled poorly. we were delayed for two hours and due to one of the flight attendants being sick. we were not made aware until the flight departure time when they asked for 25 passengers to volunteer to be left behind - what a joke. eventually 40 minutes later they called out names of passengers who were forced to stay behind. when we were finally airborne, the flight crew did not appologise for the delay - it was like everything was running as usual, until we finally landed in sydney (after an missed approach) two hours later. very unprofessional. they did not keep the passengers in the loop at all.

User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5302 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6755 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
A real airline would put them up in a hotel.

JQ pax that werent able to be put on another airline (ie due to school holidays and flights being chockers) were put up at a hotel.


25 VH-BZF : Not sure how much? I understand that on the inaugaral Mel-Hnl service, JQintl asked if QF would operate it on their behalf, but then baulked at the a
26 Easyas321 : Whatever the figure is, it's the left hand giving money to the right hand. It doesn't really matter, it's just moving money around !!!
27 Post contains links VHVXB : Faced another problem on Sunday Jetstar delays passengers again QANTAS offshoot Jetstar is on the back foot again after two of its planes missed Sydn
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