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DL May Take Delivery Of 772LR Two Months From Now!  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9677 times:

....not yet officially confirmed, but splintered chat in forums (this one and others) begs at least for its own thread. Appears that Delta may take the two 772LRs that were originally intended for Air India(n).


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B747-437B sums it up in post #15 of this thread:
Air India's New Colors (by DID747 Apr 14 2007 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2007-04-15 22:25:11]

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User currently offlineBY188B From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9647 times:

i bet the Boeing paint shop engineers will be pissed! imagine doing all that work and then having to do re-do it! Air India always get itchy feet when it comes to new liveries.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9639 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Appears that Delta may take the two 772LRs that were originally intended for Air India(n).

Why aren't they taking them?



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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9639 times:

Wow...although that may cause a problem with the newly announced BizElite cabin. Would DL be able to get that installed and ordered in such short notice. I guess anything is possible but it would be fantastic to see more 777's coming earlier to DL!


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9595 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
Why aren't they taking them?

....did you actually bother clicking the link provided?  Yeah sure


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9526 times:

The irony is that DL could well use these 2 LRs to further strengthen its position in India.

User currently offlineUpstateDave From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9492 times:

It will not cause a problem with the "new" BusinessElite seats because they are already designed and in use at Air Canada! Delta just puts blue leather and blue trim on them and calls them their own. Check out the news release pic on delta.com and compare then to the seats on the newly acquired 77W of AC. THEY ARE THE SAME!

http://news.delta.com/photo_display.cfm?photo_id=160&view=low_res

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1197170/L/



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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6557 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9427 times:

The new BusinessElite seats are made by Contour Premium. Delta's new BusinessElite seats are the same type used on Air Canada's and Virgin Atlantic's new business class. Delta's current BusinessElite seats are made by B/E Aerospace.

I wonder if the 777-200LRs will use the slimline economy seats that will be used on the 737-800s and domestic 767-300s. Recaro's CL3610 seat appears to be one of the best economy class seats offered.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9355 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 4):
....did you actually bother clicking the link provided?

Your post was kind of cryptic and a didn't see you had more information below the pictures. Usually people put that kind of link first, saying: "it was mentioned in this thread [link] that..."

Sorry.



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9304 times:

exciting isn't it?

Hopefully it goes through as well as that other news...



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User currently offlineGlobalATL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9240 times:

Geez, DL !!!

Good news like this just gets ever good-er...if this does happen. It's-a-gonna-happen. Everything is going DLs way!

 Big grin


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8992 times:

Well, I hope DL takes them, as they need long haul planes ASAP.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8787 times:

There is a thread on another aviation related website that says that DL is going to rework its Africa services and begin flying ATL-JNB nonstop, shift is DKR service to JFK and extend it to NBO for a JFK-DKR-NBO routing.

Whether true or not, DL has no shortage of options to deploy any early deliveries of 777s - of any variety.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8732 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):

Are these 2 77L's currently fitted out with Air India's choice of seats etc etc?

And also, what are the chances, if the 77L's do go to Delta, that they will be recieving the new Delta paint job?



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User currently offlineRJ777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1857 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8708 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 13):
And also, what are the chances, if the 77L's do go to Delta, that they will be recieving the new Delta paint job?

I'd say pretty good!

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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8606 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 13):
Are these 2 77L's currently fitted out with Air India's choice of seats etc etc?

I'd imagine at least VT-ALA is decked out with the new Air India interior.



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User currently offlineRafflesKing From Singapore, joined Mar 2007, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8398 times:

An alternate theory...

PIA will take these aircraft now they have 2 injured birds. Perhaps this will settle the dispute in Kashmir?  sarcastic 


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7376 times:

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 12):
There is a thread on another aviation related website that says that DL is going to rework its Africa services and begin flying ATL-JNB nonstop, shift is DKR service to JFK and extend it to NBO for a JFK-DKR-NBO routing.

While I've always been expecting JFK-DKR-NBO to happen sometime, I'm surprised that DL would actually be considering doing ATL-JNB nonstop, as I seem to recall a fairly recent interview with Grinstein in which he stated his primary interest for the 77L would be for ATL-BOM if DL didn't get any China rights for 2008.

Quoting RafflesKing (Reply 16):
PIA will take these aircraft now they have 2 injured birds.

Please not! PIA already has ruined enough beautiful 777s as is, don't let them ruin even more.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31060 posts, RR: 87
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7221 times:
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Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 17):
Please not! PIA already has ruined enough beautiful 777s as is, don't let them ruin even more.

Swissport was the one who wrecked them, as they were driving the tug. This one you can't blame on PIA staff.  Smile


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3071 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7121 times:

Quoting RafflesKing (Reply 16):
PIA will take these aircraft now they have 2 injured birds.

one is back in the air, the other will soon have parts, so they won't need these birds.

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 15):
I'd imagine at least VT-ALA is decked out with the new Air India interior.

2 Questions:

If they have the AI seats, will they take these out and put the DL seats in?

Will it keep the registration VT-ALA or get a new one registered in the US? Sorry that I don't know that much about registration and rules, etc.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31060 posts, RR: 87
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7082 times:
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Quoting CXfirst (Reply 19):
If they have the AI seats, will they take these out and put the DL seats in?

I would fully expect them to do so.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 19):
Will it keep the registration VT-ALA or get a new one registered in the US? Sorry that I don't know that much about registration and rules, etc.

The plane will be re-registered with a US registration.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3237 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7037 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 13):
Are these 2 77L's currently fitted out with Air India's choice of seats etc etc?



Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 15):
I'd imagine at least VT-ALA is decked out with the new Air India interior.



Quoting CXfirst (Reply 19):

If they have the AI seats, will they take these out and put the DL seats in?

Guys - the whole reason on why AI is delaying taking these birds is that supposedly they changed their minds on the seats at the last minute (after the a/c were ready). And the new suppliers seats supposedly did not meet some checks and hence causing further delays. And now that AI/IC are merging, that's causing even further delays. Hence in summary:

* The 3 772LR a/c VT-ALA, ALB and ALC most probably don't have any seats in them, maybe the galleys are also not ready yet!

So if these do possibly go to DL (I personally doubt it though, given that AI is already so bloody short on long haul a/c), then all DL needs to do is the plunk in their choice of seats/IFE and have the birds repainted!



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User currently offline747433 From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6552 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
Delta's new BusinessElite seats are the same type used on Air Canada's and Virgin Atlantic's new business class.

Not true. They will be the same as AC's. The VS seat requires you to get out of the seat before lowering the seat into the flat position.


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4079 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5475 times:

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 12):
Whether true or not, DL has no shortage of options to deploy any early deliveries of 777s - of any variety.

They could use these birds ASAP for ATL-JNB (convert to non-stop) and NYC/JFK-BOM to avoid the current tech-stops for fuel in MAN.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8387 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4791 times:
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Delta may get a great present coming out of BK, much sooner then any one thought. While 2 new 772LR would help they are still only 2 planes. I have witnessed enough on this board wriiten about the possible uses of DL's new 772LR fleet 30 examples wouldn't be enough.

25 The777Man : Hope fully AI will still take delivery of these two aircraft, as the original post says "may not take delivery" so let's see what happens. AI would be
26 ConcordeBoy : ...off topic, but are you planning an update for your site any time in the near future Lars?
27 Post contains images The777Man : Hi ConcordeBoy! Yes, My computer broke but managed to save my files. Lost the password for Frontpage but working on rebuilding the site. Hope to have
28 WorldTraveler : DL hasn't made a single unscheduled stop in MAN for fuel. MAN has been used as a stop because DL has not been able to carry full baggage and pax on s
29 Alitalia744 : Thank god there's more than 2 coming then right? BTW the latest plans are looking good.
30 Jfk777 : Alitalia 744, There are 5 772LR for Delta before any of the Air India stuff came up. DL may get more then 2 772LR's from Air India so I am not sure of
31 OldAeroGuy : Still sounds like a fuel stop to me. If DL didn't want to carry full pax and bags, then they wouldn't need to stop MAN for fuel. Are you saying they
32 MCOflyer : Well, until they get these a/c, there will be fuel stops on some days. Maybe DL can pick up all the a/c AI has ordered. At least the LR's will be use
33 WestWing : While there were a couple of Delta press releases where they (Delta) indicated that they would convert a total of five -200ERs to -200LRs, the Boeing
34 ConcordeBoy : ...it was changed before the official announcement, then quickly changed back. All changes (plus any additions) should be made public after exit from
35 Alitalia744 : Trust me, I know there were 5 set for Delta before the AI stuff came up. Re-read my post.
36 WorldTraveler : It is possible that DL could convert the AI aircraft into additional a/c if Boeing can build 2 additional a/c for both AI and DL - unless AI decides t
37 Post contains images RobK : No, he's letting me do all the work these days.......... R
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