Apparently, OOL has none of the traffic rights restrictions of BNE, SYD or MEL. Would any airline who can't at present get into one of these airports look at OOL instead?
Could OOL actually attract passengers from brisbane or the southside of brisbane? With new road access(Tugan bypass) almost complete could airlines tempt passngers to fly longhaul out of OOL rather than BNE?
OOL claims to be low cost & can take up to B777/A340 aircraft with new 2492 metre runway.
As the crow flies BNE & OOL are only ~59 miles/95kms apart. Travelling time by road between the 2 with no traffic jams is probably just over an hour. The log jams that currently occur where the motorway meets the coast road at Tugan will be largely diminshed when Tugan bypass is finished as thru traffic in both directions will stay on motorway freeing up access to airport.
The only hard thing, is how would passengers not from Brisbane get to & from airport? Public transport is messy.
OceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
Quoting Easyas321 (Thread starter): Could OOL actually attract passengers from brisbane or the southside of brisbane?
Depends of what kind of passengers you are thinking about. As the airport says itself, it low-cost. This means that you've to walk on the ramp to reach the aircraft and to board through stairs. Those willing to come down from BNE and experience a different kind of airport with no fingers to board, and so on, they'll come. My perception of Coolangatta is really one of an airport serving the surf industry of the Gold Coast.
Quoting Easyas321 (Reply 2): Runway might not be long enough for 744 with max load to reach HKG ???
The route is 3790nm, and from OOL I don't expect the aircraft to be heavily ladden with cargo. I'm no pilot of course, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a B744 full of people (359) and their luggages can take off from a ~2500m runway.
Qantas787 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2111 times:
Quoting Zeke (Reply 1): Understand that Oasis Hong Kong are looking at the route form HKG with a 744.
Zeke now don't toy with me by getting me all excited with this statement. Boy I hope you are right, because from what I see of their prices and product on their LGW run they look very impressive. Mind you I haven't actually experienced them and I do realize that it is just a glossy web site but I think they would do well in to OOL. BNE & OOL are basically one big city so there is a huge catchment area which is growing extremely fast.
QF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 599 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2100 times:
I was informed that China Airlines and Cathay Pacific have shown interest in flying to OOL (may be past interest or still current). I can't see a huge number of airlines commencing services, with close proximity to Brisbane (with much better facilities).
Interesting to note that QF180 is operating NRT-OOL-MEL (departing NRT on 28 June) with the A330-300.
Easyas321 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2060 times:
Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 3): Quoting Easyas321 (Reply 2):
Runway might not be long enough for 744 with max load to reach HKG ???
The route is 3790nm, and from OOL I don't expect the aircraft to be heavily ladden with cargo. I'm no pilot of course, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a B744 full of people (359) and their luggages can take off from a ~2500m runway.
359 pax !!!
What about 440 or more.
Oasis surely have a reasonably high density seating configuration. Freight into OOL from HKG could be huge, as stuff all difference to BNE. Can OOL handle much freight?
Many companies are setting up head ofice in BNE region, who import from China, as road freight south to SYD eg. is cheap as backloading, so cheap distribution rather than the other way around which is expensive & congested at SYD.
Planemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1653 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2045 times:
I'm thinking EK. They are desperate to get more flights to Australia. They could route a 345 non stop to BNE and then a 773 to OOL via SIN. Jetstar might also be interested?
Oasis' 744's are only configured with 359 thats what amazes me about their prices. Business class at half the price of legacy carriers but still with 60" pitch.
Sparklehorse12 From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 869 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2012 times:
There has been rumours around that a Middle Eastern carrier was going to do season flights into OOL once the runway upgrade was complete. From May - July the Cold Coast is the number 1 Australian destination for Middle Eastern tourism.
Quoting Qantas787 (Reply 9): Oasis' 744's are only configured with 359 thats what amazes me about their prices. Business class at half the price of legacy carriers but still with 60" pitch.
TruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1335 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 1815 times:
Oasis Airlines is planning to come to the Gold Coast as it is cheap, its not competing with Cathay Pacific and its the Gold Coast! EK definetly will do seasonal I think. Maybe Eithad (That would be so cool!). Qantas has shown no interest (cause there slack) and Jetstar was at one stage looking at KIX. Cathay, Air NZ, SQ (doubt it will happen) and JAL have all shown alot of interest!
Easyas321 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1701 times:
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 12): Oasis Airlines is planning to come to the Gold Coast as it is cheap, its not competing with Cathay Pacific and its the Gold Coast! EK definetly will do seasonal I think. Maybe Eithad (That would be so cool!). Qantas has shown no interest (cause there slack) and Jetstar was at one stage looking at KIX. Cathay, Air NZ, SQ (doubt it will happen) and JAL have all shown alot of interest!
Have heard there is some interest from a low cost North American carrier, who might fly 1 stop to North America (not LAX or SFO) but to place people actually want to go to, not pass thru.
Maybe as a cheaper alternative to BNE. They might use train & coach from parts of BNE, but really only 1 hours drive from most of Brisbane to OOL, as long as not in peak hour.
The Southwest effect - I think it was something like 2 hours people in the U.S. were prepared to drive to get low cost flights.
Nzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1487 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1601 times:
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 12): and Jetstar was at one stage looking at KIX. Cathay, Air NZ, SQ (doubt it will happen) and JAL have all shown alot of interest!
NZ wont even thou its A320's go in all the time but its for its LCC subsidary Freedomair that uses the NZ A320's
Easyas321 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1357 times:
Quoting Sparklehorse12 (Reply 16): Good news for OOL and the traveling public in general.
just heard they may be some regular (not sure what that means in reality) charters to ports not currently flown to in NZ, from either BNE or OOL or both.