Dl757md From United States, joined May 2004, 1519 posts, RR: 20 Posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12625 times:
For those of you who non-rev on DL. Effective April 15, 2007 non rev pax on DL will enjoy a very lenient dress code policy.
Overall appearance should be well-groomed, neat, clean, safe and respectful, from head to toe.
Clothing should be respectful of fellow passengers.
Footwear -- shoes are required unless the pass rider is not able to wear footwear due to a disability or physical condition
Attire previously not acceptable that is now allowed includes shorts, T-shirts, Jeans (in all classes), flip flops, ball caps, tank tops, tattoos, body piercings, and extreme hairstyles.
From the DLNet site,"if the attire is appropriate for a revenue passenger to wear, then a non-revenue passenger can wear the same attire."
One clear benefit for Delta's operations will be the elimination of dress code enforcement from the job description of the CSA allowing them to concentrate their resources on customer service of the fare paying customers.
WorldTraveler From United States, joined Aug 2003, 6220 posts, RR: 24 Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12619 times:
Dl757md From United States, joined May 2004, 1519 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12589 times:
Quoting OOer (Reply 1): Now is this for Y class only of C and F class as well?
This is for all classes, C and F included. It also includes DL connection carriers ASA, Chautaugua, Comair, ExpreeJet, Mesa/Freedom, Shuttle America, and Skywest.
AirTran737 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 3068 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12554 times:
Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 12122 posts, RR: 90 Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12494 times:
Quoting Dl757md (Reply 3): This is for all classes, C and F included.
Flip-flops - in first class?
Quoting Dl757md (Thread starter): Attire previously not acceptable that is now allowed includes shorts, T-shirts, Jeans (in all classes), flip flops, ball caps, tank tops, tattoos, body piercings, and extreme hairstyles.
A330300 From United States, joined Nov 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12478 times:
This is Frontier's official dress code for nonrevs - however, there has been a push to make it less restrictive in light of some agents not using common sense when enforcing these restrictions.
Male adults and children:
Yes:
• Jeans in good condition. Trousers or slacks.
• Collared or banded collar shirts. Sweaters or turtleneck type sweaters.
• Casual shoes (including dress sandals and athletic or deck shoes) as long as they are neat and clean.
No:
• Shorts
• Tank Tops
• T-shirts
• Torn jeans
• Flip flops
Female adults and children:
Yes:
• Dresses, suits, pantsuits, skort suits, leisure suits, jeans in good condition and without holes, skirts or slacks with coordinated dress blouse or sweater.
• Split, pant style skirts are acceptable so long as they are approximately knee-length.
• Casual shoes (including dress sandals) and athletic or deck shoes are acceptable as long as they are neat and clean. Hosiery and socks are not required.
No:
• Shorts
• Tank Tops
• T-shirts
• Torn jeans
• Flip flops
Military personnel:
Yes:
• Appropriate military traveling uniforms.
No:
• Work uniforms, camouflage, fatigues and battle dress.
Callsigncitrus From United States, joined Sep 2006, 22 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12479 times:
thats nuts. business elite=flip flops, tattered jeans, holy t shirt, bandanna, tattoos, and piercings. hmmmmm I will say for those that non rev and have backups on other airlines that do require a dress code, ya might want to bring a change of clothes =-)
N766UA From United States, joined Jul 1999, 6779 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12480 times:
It's about time! Although I never had a problem with dressing up (I still will), it'll be nice to not have to worry about tennis shoes in F class or shorts in the summer. It just makes sense, especially with the way some full-fare types dress. Hell, jeans and a rugby shirt might still be dressing up!
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JayDub From United States, joined Dec 2006, 556 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12436 times:
I think, in the long run, this will end up being little more than a concession to soften the blow of a revised, fee-based non-revenue travel program for DL and DL Connection employees...
Just a theory, don't flame me...
[Edited 2007-04-16 03:36:40]
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AV8AJET From United States, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12436 times:
Kinda funny really, but the reality these days is that non-rev's seem to rarely get FC anyway. The flights are so full and along with upgraders your lucky to get domestic FC as a non-rev. Now J class overseas you have a much better chance. It was almost funny that you can tell who is a non-rev just because they are the few passengers that actually dress up because they had too!
Dl757md From United States, joined May 2004, 1519 posts, RR: 20 Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12409 times:
Quoting JayDub (Reply 9): this will end up being little more than a concession to soften the blow of a revised, fee-based non-revenue travel program...
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. On the other hand it could just be a logical reaction to the eternal problem of dress code enforcement especially in regards to buddy pass riders.
Callsigncitrus From United States, joined Sep 2006, 22 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12363 times:
yeah a friend from delta told me that delta wants their non rev passengers to blend in with regular fare-paying passengers. where other airlines see it as a representation of the carrier in which they flying, whether it be buddy passes, or actual airline employees. They want the passengers to stand out from other pax. deltas approach sure is different.
Evan767 From United States, joined Aug 2005, 2815 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12330 times:
Quoting JayDub (Reply 9): I think, in the long run, this will end up being little more than a concession to soften the blow of a revised, fee-based non-revenue travel program for DL and DL Connection employees...
Doubt it, in the article it says better changes are in store to improve your travel experience. Employees already pay for their benefits anyway, even though it's a small amount. If that did happen though, it sure would lower the moral at Delta.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
JayDub From United States, joined Dec 2006, 556 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12301 times:
Quoting Evan767 (Reply 14): Doubt it, in the article it says better changes are in store to improve your travel experience.
Well...they may get better at the mainline level but, if the rumours are true, it will be at the expense of the employees of the DL Connection carriers.
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Aloha73G From United States, joined Jul 2003, 2122 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12181 times:
Hawaiian has had a "relaxed" dress code for non-rev travel for a few years now.....though there is still a business casual standard for First Class on Trans-Pacific flights.
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Tsaord From United States, joined Aug 2005, 1420 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12136 times:
Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 11): It was almost funny that you can tell who is a non-rev just because they are the few passengers that actually dress up because they had too!
Thats so true. People in this day and age don't feel the need to dress head to toe to get from point A to point B. I agree but at the same time people should always dress with some type of "sense". Don't be dirty, smelly, or look homeless while flying.
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N353SK From United States, joined Jun 2006, 638 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 12033 times:
I don't agree with DL at all on this one. Honestly, how hard is it to put on some dockers and a polo shirt? I've always viewed dressing respectably as a small price to pay for the ability to fly virtually anywhere for virtually nothing. Sure, I've had mornings where I wanted to fly in sweatpants, but I showered and dressed decently because I honestly believe it actually does raise the airline's image, if even to a small extent. Sure, DL has a nice point about trying to make their nonrevs blend in, but I would venture a guess that at least 90% of the traveling public has no idea what a nonrev is.
DeltaGuy From United States, joined Sep 2001, 4138 posts, RR: 27 Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 11947 times:
Not like I ever see FC anymore anyways...stupid automatic upgrades.
This is stupid though- a snazzy dresscode was always nice and it kept the nonrevs up front looking good next to some of the slob high-paying FC folks (and made you blend better with the nicely dressed ones). In the old days, I would at least wear a tie on a flight I had decent chances with, never had a problem with first..not anymore though.
Can't wait to see what this turns out to be.
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Quoting Dl757md (Thread starter): Overall appearance should be well-groomed, neat, clean, safe and respectful, from head to toe...
...shorts, T-shirts, Jeans (in all classes), flip flops, ball caps, tank tops, tattoos, body piercings, and extreme hairstyles.
These two statements on some people are very contradictory. However, the new allowances certianly represent precieved acceptable appearance in American society today. I am surprised Delta went in this direction. I guess I will always be old school and proud of it.
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DL787932ER From United States, joined Dec 2005, 581 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11780 times:
Quoting N353SK (Reply 21): I don't agree with DL at all on this one. Honestly, how hard is it to put on some dockers and a polo shirt? I've always viewed dressing respectably as a small price to pay for the ability to fly virtually anywhere for virtually nothing. Sure, I've had mornings where I wanted to fly in sweatpants, but I showered and dressed decently because I honestly believe it actually does raise the airline's image, if even to a small extent. Sure, DL has a nice point about trying to make their nonrevs blend in, but I would venture a guess that at least 90% of the traveling public has no idea what a nonrev is.
Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 22):
This is stupid though- a snazzy dresscode was always nice and it kept the nonrevs up front looking good next to some of the slob high-paying FC folks (and made you blend better with the nicely dressed ones).
I don't think I like this one. Of course I think if it were up to me I would implement the dress code for revenue passengers, not remove it for nonrevs! I've never been on an airplane that has a beach or a place to work on your car, so I don't know why people have to dress like they're planning on either of those activities.
767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11769 times:
Quoting N353SK (Reply 21): I don't agree with DL at all on this one. Honestly, how hard is it to put on some dockers and a polo shirt? I've always viewed dressing respectably as a small price to pay for the ability to fly virtually anywhere for virtually nothing.
I tend to agree wtih you. If the airline doesn't want to be considered a "greyhound bus in the sky," then there need to be certain standards applied. Also, in the event of emergency is it really smart to have people in flip flops? You can't run in those things.
26 SBN580: They aren't. It is probably their ordinary daily wear anyway. That is the way it is these days. Sadly, you can have that feeling on almost any given
27 N1120A: And? That actually makes a hell of a lot of sense. Non Revs usually stick out like a sore thumb.
28 Avatordon: I'm looking at the DL intranet and don't see any updated info in the "What to Wear" section. Has this been updated elsewhere?
29 Bond007: Well, I hear what you all say about F/C pax, but in general they are not snooty snobs with ripped jeans and flip-flops. In fact I did a quick 'survey
30 OOer: Have you tried flying to HNL for the day with dockers and a polo shirt??? Not to mention that there is no way you can hand up your pants and shirt an
31 Norcal773: Thank God. I non-reved 3 times on DL and the dress code was ridiculous.
32 Junction: This is most surprising, because at one time DL had the strictest dress code of all. I can remember in the mid to late 80s a suite jacket and tie was
33 GlobalATL: Aren't there any standards ANYMORE??? Poor decision by somebody, even though the employees are probably jumping for joy. I can see it now.
34 Bond007: Actually, no I haven't tried flying to HNL for the day ... or had the opportunity for free. If you can't non-rev and stick to the dress policy, then
35 NYCAAer: I'm shocked DL has gone this far with their dress code. At AA, we still have a business casual dress code for non-revs, although no jeans are permitte
36 JayDub: As someone who non-revs on DL often, I agree on the flip flops and tank tops part. Maybe appropriate length khaki shorts. It's going to be interestin
37 Burnsie28: Pathetic, if your going to represent an airline this shouldn't be allowed.
38 MSYtristar: Good for DL. As long as people don't come in wearing vulgar tee shirts, or jeans with a bunch of holes in them, who cares? This isn't the 1950's anymo
39 Apodino: And to think at my company we had people whine about being denied the Jumpseat for wearing Jeans, even though our FOM clearly states business casual.
40 Acey559: This will definitely make my summer travel more comfortable, that's for sure. I never minded dressing up, but long flights wearing slacks, dress shoes
41 Afrikaskyes: I never really liked to sit in First class when nonreving on DL. It's always obvious to the other passengers when you're flying nonrev especially when
42 BN727: Hooray, break out the birkenstocks, faded blue jeans, tie-die t-shirts, and Citco baseball caps....
43 AirTran717: But it's ok for someone to PAY for their seat and wear nasty thongs, wifebeaters and a ballcap? Come on. I agree... what's good for the goose is good
44 AirTran717: Since the traveling public is not privied to the flight manifest... if you were not told who the non-revs were, would it ever matter to you if they we
45 AirTran717: What's the difference when you travel for business? You represent your own company when you travel... show me the difference. 717
46 Bond007: But I think we're talking Dockers and Polo shirt, that's all. That doesn't look out of place in F/C or Coach. IMO shorts and flip-flops DOES look out
47 JayDub: Funny story in regards to this from when I was doing my yearly observation jumpseating this past week... I take my own headset with me when I go for
48 Ua777222: I think that DL dropping their restrictions is going to be welcomed with mixed emotions. I'm not entirally sure about their motivation to make such a
49 EXAAUADL: I dont think employees should be allowed to wear shorts or wear jean in premium classes
50 LVHGEL: One winter during the 80s I was nonreving on PA, I was flying from STT to JFK. Making long story short, got stranded till next morning, my bags in the
52 EA CO AS: And that's the main reason carriers have become more lenient with their dress codes over the past 10-15 years. DL was known for having the most stric
53 Bond007: Correct ... somewhere in the middle would have been just fine! Jimbo
54 OttoPylit: Considering how many actually do. Heck, it would no longer surprise me to walk into a Crown Room and see people that look like Eminem or Kevin Federl
55 Phxplanes: I have never understood why non-revs have to dress up. I can see not having holes in your clothes or bad words or images on your shirts but why cant w
56 Bond007: Yes, nobody is saying shirts and ties, just business/smart casual (we can argue about the shorts/tennis shoes), just like most businesses are nowaday
57 Gimmemywingz: Well if the dude dressed up in Heavy Metal gear, or like someone who came straight from the beach to the airplane, who is paying for the ticket, or t
58 Platinumfoota: I think its a way to give back to the employees, not a bad idea. I dont like the idea of going on a vacation to a tropical destination and arriving in
59 LVHGEL: LOL,... I think I saw jeans full of holes and "factory worn" that are way more expensive than a good pair of almost dressy levi's 501.
60 Jhooper: I've nonreved on DL my entire 27 years. I remember the days of coats-and-ties, and that was just to ride coach! I was glad when the dress code was rel
61 Dl757md: The cost of an item of clothing has nothing to do with whether or not is appropriate attire in this situation. A diamond studded bra may cost million
62 Noelg: Honestly I think it's hilarious the amount of first class snobs in the "OH MY F**KING GOD!!!! I can't believe they're actually wearing a TEE SHIRT AND
63 Belizexp: I agree 100% I just recently travel on DL this past Easter and you will be amaze at the number of F/C (full fare) pax traveling in shorts & t shirts
64 LVHGEL: I couldn't agree with you more, but that will not stop a person that, because he/she spent an inordinate amount of money in a garment that is ill fit
65 Mariner: And - what? And - nothing. There is no "and". It is an observation, that is all. ??? mariner
66 Bond007: Yep, and we could say exactly the same to you! YOU are not the only person on that plane either. If you were, we wouldn't be having this discussion!
67 Tolosy: Who cares how non-rev dress!!!!!! When I fly, I don't make a distinction between non-rev passengers and regular ones. I don't think non-rev pax tend t
68 Lostturttle: Or Bermuda! I hate to dress up anyway, so looks like I will be flying DL to BOS Aand yeah you all are right, non revs stand out like a sore thumb, es
69 FutureFO: No flip flops in F. That is the one few things that you cannot wear in F.
70 CV880: Obviously You weren't around in the 60's, 70's, 80's when coat/tie were mandatory for nonrev travel...why should one have to pack additional clothing
71 Bond007: Oh...and First Class meant First CLASS.....those days??? Errrr...because you are travelling on somebody else's money, not yours, that's one reason. I
72 N353SK: Not HNL, but I took a summer day trip to DCA last summer (wanted to see the baby panda, of course). 93 degrees and 95% humidity that day. Got off of
73 JDAirCEO: Paying a fee other than taxs to non-rev really is annoying. AA charges a lot to non-rev in any class other than coach. JFK-EZE in F costs around $250
74 Aerofan: About bloody time. And for those of you who think the sky is falling because of this relaxation - this is still a free country you know- you are quite
75 MHTMDW: Not an airline employee and I fly far less than I used to, although that may be about to change, I still dress up to fly. Why? Because I get better se
76 Dl757md: Good point! If you're talking about Delta that is not true. There is no longer ANY distinction between F, C, or Y in regard to non-rev dresscode at D
77 CV880: Did it for 35yrs, dude, then took cuts in pay & retirement benefits, ending up with much less in benefits than from what most Fortune 500's dish out
78 GOCAPS16: Yup! My seatmate in business elite on a 777-200 wore flip flops on our way to LAX. I see it all the time, especially to socal. Say it ain't so, but 9
79 GOCAPS16: Haha!! Yes, I love that!!!! Like to put something out about this. Are you serious? So, folks coming home on R&R, who are required to wear desert camm
80 Mariner: For your sake, I hope he'd (?) washed his feet - and they they didn't get too dirty as he made his way to and through the airport. mariner
81 CV880: This policy was put in place, so the gate agents can concentrate on more important things, like get the planes out on time, rather than policing an an
82 UAL777UK: Surely if you have paid for the seat, you can wear what you like, how you like. However as an employee, I think there should be a dress code, certainl
83 IAD51FL: One day it will be the only compensation we get as airline employees. After all the cuts in pay, benefits, etc.... non-rev travel should be a benefit
84 Bond007: Sorry, but a poor example. A better example would be they give you a company bus, that you can use at weekends, but along with you and your family, t
85 767Lover: How do you know they were full fare pax? After years of hearing people sling insults at Southwest about the "white trash" passengers and such, I am s
86 SkyexRamper: ABOUT TIME! It's great to see Delta moving toward this also no dress code policy! All airlines should do this because well Non-Rev dress policies are
87 Bond007: I was going to comment on other parts of your thred, but you did a good enuff job of shooting yourselve in the foot right there There goes 'professio
88 CuriousFlyer: A few random points: First I do not work for an airline, and I rarely notice the nonrevs, if ever. The good thing with standards in how to dress (or a
89 Dl757md: I'm sure that some rather arrogant non-revs may think that but by far the vast majority of us realize that the customer does come first. Complimentar
90 Risingphoenix: I've read this thread- and it didn't disappoint- it took the inevitable, predictable path of debate that comes up on most of the airline employee subj
91 Bond007: Oh, please stop this pathetic analysis. Did you ever think that some of us just want airline employees to look professional (duh - Dockers and Polo s
92 CV880: As we said earlier, the vast majority of airline employees will dress appropriately, maybe not to your standards, but then you have the option of com
93 Bond007: If I DO in fact travel on my company's money: 1) I don't represent the airline. 2) I'm not travelling on vacation for free - I'm travelling on busine
94 SkyexRamper: Did you read my entire post....we are forbidden to discuss our Non-rev status with passengers as the company has the right to revoke our traveling pr
95 CV880: I don't see much more in the point of this dialogue...the company set a new policy for its employees....the bottom line is if You don't like it, then
96 Lostturttle: Just because we "non rev" does not mean airline employees and pass riders fly for "free" I have paid almost the same price for my "free" tickets as s
97 Bond007: It's a forum and that's its purpose! Boy I've never seen such a defensive bunch of folks. But one thing I've learned from this thread, is that a lot
98 Jhooper: Even before the dress code change, Delta allowed military personnel to wear BDUs. However, as a military member I wouldn't be wearing any uniform in
99 AirTran717: I just have to say, for the record, that when I was an airline employee, I was very grateful to get on the plane at all. Given our load factors, non-r
100 CV880: Unfortunately a situation where new innovation basically sucks....the same can be said for any carrier in this case. I don't honestly think that it i
101 Bond007: Unfortunately not. It's no coincidence IMO that both jetBlue and Southwest answer their phones after 2 or 4 rings with a person in the USA on the oth
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However, the new allowances certianly represent precieved acceptable appearance in American society today. I am surprised Delta went in this direction. I guess I will always be old school and proud of it. 
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