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Pan Am 747, A300 And 727 Routes Out @LAX 86 To 91  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3662 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5051 times:

What was some of Pan Am 747s, A300s and 727s routes out of LAX between 1986 and 1991? I know PA used to fly a lot of 747 into LAX. I also know one of there 747 flights was a morning flight to JFK then on to Zurich and some other one was to HNL and LHR. Please just post the three A/C listed thank you?

PS: If anybody wonder why I post a lot of question about airlines and A/C in the 80's at LAX, well here the reason why. As a kid I watch these airline and A/C come in to LAX, and I just would like more info on what I used to see as a kid.

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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

I happen to have the 7/1/89 PA schedule in front of me:

LAX-GUA (daily) A300
LAX-FRA (TuThSu) 747
LAX-HNL (daily) 747
LAX-LHR (daily) 747
LAX-MEX (daily) 727
LAX-MIA (2x daily) 1x A300, 1x 747
LAX-JFK (3x daily) 747
LAX-SFO (6x daily) 4x 727, 2x A300

They also had an IAD turn with an A310.


User currently offlinePA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4918 times:

The PA schedule for September 1st 1987 reads as follows:

Daily services:
PA 415 to GUA (11:45pm dep.) A300
PA 120 to LHR (06:45pm dep.) B747
PA 42 to MIA (08:00am dep.) A300
PA 441 to MIA (01:55pm dep.) B747
PA 82 to JFK (08:00am dep.) B747
PA 90 to JFK (09:30am dep.) B747
PA 416 to SFO (04:15pm dep.) A300

Monday, Wednesday, Friday only:
PA 150 to FRA (2:55pm dep.) B747

Thursday only:
PA 209 to SCL and EZE (11:05pm dep.) B747

There were no B727 services during that time. Compared to 1989, it seems like, PA increased services to LAX a little afterwards...

[Edited 2007-04-17 08:58:04]

User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 4734 times:

Thank you for you replies.  Smile

User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4683 times:

Effective February 11, 1986:

PA 150 to FRA (3:20pm; Mo,We,Fr,Sa) 747
PA 91 to HNL (8:20pm; Daily) 747
PA 120 to LHR (6:30pm, Th,Su) 747
PA 441 to MIA (2:15pm; Daily) 747
PA 8 to JFK (8:15am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 124 to SFO (3:05pm; Daily) 747
PA 122 to SEA (3:05pm; Fr) 747


User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4662 times:

Effective February 1, 1987:

PA 150 to FRA (3:10pm; TuThSa) 747
PA 415 to GUA (11:25pm; Daily) A300
PA 120 to LHR (6:56pm; TuThSaSu) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:00am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:15pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (9:00am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 124 to SFO (3:20pm; MoWe) 747
PA 416 to SFO (4:05pm; ExSu) A300
PA 416 to SFO (5:15pm; Su) A300
PA 573 to SFO (8:00pm; Su) 747
PA 209 to SCL (9:40pm; Th) 747
PA 122 to SEA (3:20pm; Fr) 747


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4647 times:

Quoting N702ML (Reply 5):
PA 120 to LHR (6:56pm; TuThSaSu) 747

I didn't think classic 747's had the legs to do west coast to Europe? I believe that the PA -SP's were gone by '87,right ? Must have been -200B's doing those EU flights.



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User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4645 times:

Effective June 1, 1987:

PA 150 to FRA (2:55pm; MoWeFr) 747
PA 415 to GUA (11:45pm; Daily) A300
PA 120 to LHR (6:45pm; Daily) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (1:55pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (9:00am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 416 to SFO (4:30pm; Daily) A300
PA 43 to SFO (8:30pm; FrSaSu) A300
PA 209 to SCL (11:05pm; Th) 747


User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4625 times:

Effective January 18, 1988:

PA 150 to FRA (2:50pm; MoWeFr) 747
PA 415 to GUA 11:45pm; Daily) A300
PA 209 to GYE (11:15pm; Th) 747
PA 81 to HNL (1:45pm; Daily) 747
PA 120 to LHR (6:05pm; ExThSu) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:30am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:15pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
PA 280 to SAN (7:15am; Daily) 737
PA 282 to SAN (11:00am; Daily) 737
PA 284 to SAN (2:35pm; Daily) 737
PA 286 to SAN (5:35pm; Daily) 737
PA 416 to SFO (2:45pm; Daily) A300
PA 43 to SFO (6:00pm; Daily) A300
PA 122 to SEA (3:15pm; ThSu) 747

I don't think you asked specifically about the 737 operations, but I thought I would include them.


User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4610 times:

Effective June 15, 1988:

PA 150 to FRA (2:45pm; MoWeFrSa) 747
PA 415 to GUA (11:25pm; Daily) A300
PA 81 to HNL (1:45pm; ExSa) 747
PA 181 to HNL (4:34pm; SaOnly) 747
PA 120 to LHR (5:55pm; Daily) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:10pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
PA 280 to SAN (7:15am; Daily) 737
PA 282 to SAN (11:00am; Daily) 737
PA 284 to SAN (2:35pm; Daily) 737
PA 286 to SAN (6:15pm; Daily) 737
PA 288 to SAN (7:45pm; Daily) 737
PA 283 to SFO (10:35am; Daily) 737
PA 416 to SFO (2:55pm; Daily) A300
PA 43 to SFO (6:15pm; Daily) A300


User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4595 times:

Effective October 29, 1989:

Flight 415 to GUA (11:15pm; Daily) A300
Flight 81 to HNL (2:55pm; Daily) 747
Flight 120 to LHR (12:00pm; ExMoTu) 747
Flight 481 to MEX (4:00pm; Daily) 727
Flight 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
Flight 441 to MIA (2:10pm; Daily) 747
Flight 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
Flight 32 to JFK (10:15am; Daily) 747
Flight 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
Flight 295 to SFO (9:45am; Daily) 727
Flight 482 to SFO (11:15am; Daily) 727
Flight 297 to SFO (2:15pm; Daily) 727
Flight 416 to SFO (3:05pm; Daily) A300
Flight 124 to SFO (3:30pm; MoTu) 747
Flight 43 to SFO (5:10pm; Daily) A300
Flight 2151 to SFO (7:15pm; Daily) 727
Flight 140 to IAD (8:00am; Daily) A310

(There were also 7 LAX-SNA flights operated by Pan Am Commuter/Resort Commuter DeHavilland Canada DHC-6 and 9 LAX-SAN flights operated by Pan Am Express DeHavilland Canada DHC-7.)

[Edited 2007-04-17 23:34:00]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26593 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Quoting N702ML (Reply 4):
PA 150 to FRA (3:20pm; Mo,We,Fr,Sa) 747

I flew the reverse of that flight in that year. When was PA's LAX-MSY service?



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineN702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Effective January 15, 1990:

PA 415 to GUA (11:15pm; Daily) A300
PA 81 to HNL (2:55pm; Daily) 747
PA 120 to LHR (12:00pm; ExMoTu) 747
PA 481 to MEX (4:00pm; Daily) 727
PA 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:10pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
PA 32 to JFK (10:15am; Daily) 747
PA 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
PA 295 to SFO (9:45am; Daily) 727
PA 482 to SFO (11:15am; Daily) 727
PA 297 to SFO (2:15pm; Daily) 727
PA 416 to SFO (3:05pm; Daily) A300
PA 124 to SFO (3:30pm; MoTu) 747
PA 43 to SFO (5:10pm; Daily) A300
PA 2151 to SFO (7:15pm; Daily) 727
PA 140 to IAD (8:00am, Daily) A310

(Pan Am Express operated 9 flights on varying frequencies to SAN utilizing DeHavilland Canada DHC-7.)


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

Quoting N702ML (Reply 12):
PA 124 to SFO (3:30pm; MoTu) 747

Wow,scheduled LAX-SFO service with a 747! Them were the days! That and PSA's L1011's in Cali runs..



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
When was PA's LAX-MSY service?

IIRC, that service ran until '84.

In the 2/1/83 timetable, the service was as follows:

LAX-MSY PA 908 11:30a 72S (operated LAX-MSY-TPA-MIA)
MSY-LAX PA 915 2:00p 72S (operated MCI-MCO-TPA-MSY-LAX)

There was also a daily connecting flight via IAH with B727's.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26593 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 13):
That and PSA's L1011's in Cali runs..

PSA's intra-California L1011s actually made sense from a CASM prospective. It was just a matter of the fuel crisis hitting right when they got the aircraft.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4543 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 13):
Wow,scheduled LAX-SFO service with a 747

I am pretty certain that PA124 continued to either LHR or FRA after it arrived SFO.

They also flew SFO-SEA-LHR towards the end twice weekly with B741.


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 16):
They also flew SFO-SEA-LHR towards the end twice weekly with B741.

I didn't think the 741 had the range for this flight,but i guess it did...



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8419 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4477 times:
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Pan Am flew 741 from LAX on almost every route from LAX except to Sydney nonstop, the 747SP was the only plane capable of nonstop there. LAX to NRT and LAX to LHR were the two flown most of the 747-100 era from LAX by PA until NRT was sold off to United in 1986 and LHR was sold to UA too in 1991.

User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 17):
I didn't think the 741 had the range for this flight,but i guess it did...

A 747100 could fly LAX-LHR at curtain times of the year.

Quoting N702ML (Reply 12):
PA 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
PA 32 to JFK (10:15am; Daily) 747
PA 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747

With all these 747 flights to JFK, I know I would have flew Pan Am on the LAX-JFK run if I had a choice.


User currently offlineDacman From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 444 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4311 times:
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I did a round trip LAX-HNL-LAX on a Pan Am 747 in November 1990, glad I did as sadly they went out of business the following year.

Michael
(dacman)
LAX /LGB Local



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8419 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4306 times:
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TWA also operated the LAX to LHR route for as long as Pan AM did with their fleet of 747-131's. I saw the TWA 747 at LHR many times, I had many good flights to Europe on those airplanes in Ambassador Class, will remember them fondly.

User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4192 times:
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Quoting N702ML (Reply 5):
Effective February 1, 1987:



Quoting N702ML (Reply 5):
PA 122 to SEA (3:20pm; Fr) 747

I flew PA to SEA from LAX in May/1987, probably it was this flight. I think it continued to FRA, there were German speaking students aboard.

http://www.departedflights.com/89intro.html

This may help a little.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
When was PA's LAX-MSY service?

PA 908 operated LAX-MSY in July/1983- 72S equipment:

http://www.departedflights.com/MSYp2.html

Good Day  

Russell

[Edited 2007-04-19 02:59:42]


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