747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2 Posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3179 times:
What was some of Pan Am 747s, A300s and 727s routes out of LAX between 1986 and 1991? I know PA used to fly a lot of 747 into LAX. I also know one of there 747 flights was a morning flight to JFK then on to Zurich and some other one was to HNL and LHR. Please just post the three A/C listed thank you?
PS: If anybody wonder why I post a lot of question about airlines and A/C in the 80's at LAX, well here the reason why. As a kid I watch these airline and A/C come in to LAX, and I just would like more info on what I used to see as a kid.
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3119 times:
I happen to have the 7/1/89 PA schedule in front of me:
PA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3046 times:
The PA schedule for September 1st 1987 reads as follows:
Daily services:
PA 415 to GUA (11:45pm dep.) A300
PA 120 to LHR (06:45pm dep.) B747
PA 42 to MIA (08:00am dep.) A300
PA 441 to MIA (01:55pm dep.) B747
PA 82 to JFK (08:00am dep.) B747
PA 90 to JFK (09:30am dep.) B747
PA 416 to SFO (04:15pm dep.) A300
Monday, Wednesday, Friday only:
PA 150 to FRA (2:55pm dep.) B747
Thursday only:
PA 209 to SCL and EZE (11:05pm dep.) B747
There were no B727 services during that time. Compared to 1989, it seems like, PA increased services to LAX a little afterwards...
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 2811 times:
Effective February 11, 1986:
PA 150 to FRA (3:20pm; Mo,We,Fr,Sa) 747
PA 91 to HNL (8:20pm; Daily) 747
PA 120 to LHR (6:30pm, Th,Su) 747
PA 441 to MIA (2:15pm; Daily) 747
PA 8 to JFK (8:15am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 124 to SFO (3:05pm; Daily) 747
PA 122 to SEA (3:05pm; Fr) 747
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 2790 times:
Effective February 1, 1987:
PA 150 to FRA (3:10pm; TuThSa) 747
PA 415 to GUA (11:25pm; Daily) A300
PA 120 to LHR (6:56pm; TuThSaSu) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:00am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:15pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (9:00am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 124 to SFO (3:20pm; MoWe) 747
PA 416 to SFO (4:05pm; ExSu) A300
PA 416 to SFO (5:15pm; Su) A300
PA 573 to SFO (8:00pm; Su) 747
PA 209 to SCL (9:40pm; Th) 747
PA 122 to SEA (3:20pm; Fr) 747
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7159 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2775 times:
Quoting N702ML (Reply 5): PA 120 to LHR (6:56pm; TuThSaSu) 747
I didn't think classic 747's had the legs to do west coast to Europe? I believe that the PA -SP's were gone by '87,right ? Must have been -200B's doing those EU flights.
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2773 times:
Effective June 1, 1987:
PA 150 to FRA (2:55pm; MoWeFr) 747
PA 415 to GUA (11:45pm; Daily) A300
PA 120 to LHR (6:45pm; Daily) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (1:55pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (9:00am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 416 to SFO (4:30pm; Daily) A300
PA 43 to SFO (8:30pm; FrSaSu) A300
PA 209 to SCL (11:05pm; Th) 747
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2753 times:
Effective January 18, 1988:
PA 150 to FRA (2:50pm; MoWeFr) 747
PA 415 to GUA 11:45pm; Daily) A300
PA 209 to GYE (11:15pm; Th) 747
PA 81 to HNL (1:45pm; Daily) 747
PA 120 to LHR (6:05pm; ExThSu) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:30am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:15pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
PA 280 to SAN (7:15am; Daily) 737
PA 282 to SAN (11:00am; Daily) 737
PA 284 to SAN (2:35pm; Daily) 737
PA 286 to SAN (5:35pm; Daily) 737
PA 416 to SFO (2:45pm; Daily) A300
PA 43 to SFO (6:00pm; Daily) A300
PA 122 to SEA (3:15pm; ThSu) 747
I don't think you asked specifically about the 737 operations, but I thought I would include them.
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2738 times:
Effective June 15, 1988:
PA 150 to FRA (2:45pm; MoWeFrSa) 747
PA 415 to GUA (11:25pm; Daily) A300
PA 81 to HNL (1:45pm; ExSa) 747
PA 181 to HNL (4:34pm; SaOnly) 747
PA 120 to LHR (5:55pm; Daily) 747
PA 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:10pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
PA 90 to JFK (10:30am; Daily) 747
PA 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
PA 280 to SAN (7:15am; Daily) 737
PA 282 to SAN (11:00am; Daily) 737
PA 284 to SAN (2:35pm; Daily) 737
PA 286 to SAN (6:15pm; Daily) 737
PA 288 to SAN (7:45pm; Daily) 737
PA 283 to SFO (10:35am; Daily) 737
PA 416 to SFO (2:55pm; Daily) A300
PA 43 to SFO (6:15pm; Daily) A300
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2723 times:
Effective October 29, 1989:
Flight 415 to GUA (11:15pm; Daily) A300
Flight 81 to HNL (2:55pm; Daily) 747
Flight 120 to LHR (12:00pm; ExMoTu) 747
Flight 481 to MEX (4:00pm; Daily) 727
Flight 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
Flight 441 to MIA (2:10pm; Daily) 747
Flight 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
Flight 32 to JFK (10:15am; Daily) 747
Flight 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
Flight 295 to SFO (9:45am; Daily) 727
Flight 482 to SFO (11:15am; Daily) 727
Flight 297 to SFO (2:15pm; Daily) 727
Flight 416 to SFO (3:05pm; Daily) A300
Flight 124 to SFO (3:30pm; MoTu) 747
Flight 43 to SFO (5:10pm; Daily) A300
Flight 2151 to SFO (7:15pm; Daily) 727
Flight 140 to IAD (8:00am; Daily) A310
(There were also 7 LAX-SNA flights operated by Pan Am Commuter/Resort Commuter DeHavilland Canada DHC-6 and 9 LAX-SAN flights operated by Pan Am Express DeHavilland Canada DHC-7.)
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2703 times:
Effective January 15, 1990:
PA 415 to GUA (11:15pm; Daily) A300
PA 81 to HNL (2:55pm; Daily) 747
PA 120 to LHR (12:00pm; ExMoTu) 747
PA 481 to MEX (4:00pm; Daily) 727
PA 42 to MIA (8:15am; Daily) A300
PA 441 to MIA (2:10pm; Daily) 747
PA 82 to JFK (8:30am; Daily) 747
PA 32 to JFK (10:15am; Daily) 747
PA 100 to JFK (10:00pm; Daily) 747
PA 295 to SFO (9:45am; Daily) 727
PA 482 to SFO (11:15am; Daily) 727
PA 297 to SFO (2:15pm; Daily) 727
PA 416 to SFO (3:05pm; Daily) A300
PA 124 to SFO (3:30pm; MoTu) 747
PA 43 to SFO (5:10pm; Daily) A300
PA 2151 to SFO (7:15pm; Daily) 727
PA 140 to IAD (8:00am, Daily) A310
(Pan Am Express operated 9 flights on varying frequencies to SAN utilizing DeHavilland Canada DHC-7.)
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7159 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2698 times:
Quoting N702ML (Reply 12): PA 124 to SFO (3:30pm; MoTu) 747
Wow,scheduled LAX-SFO service with a 747! Them were the days! That and PSA's L1011's in Cali runs..
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2698 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 11): When was PA's LAX-MSY service?
IIRC, that service ran until '84.
In the 2/1/83 timetable, the service was as follows:
LAX-MSY PA 908 11:30a 72S (operated LAX-MSY-TPA-MIA)
MSY-LAX PA 915 2:00p 72S (operated MCI-MCO-TPA-MSY-LAX)
There was also a daily connecting flight via IAH with B727's.
PSA's intra-California L1011s actually made sense from a CASM prospective. It was just a matter of the fuel crisis hitting right when they got the aircraft.
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MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2671 times:
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7159 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 16): They also flew SFO-SEA-LHR towards the end twice weekly with B741.
I didn't think the 741 had the range for this flight,but i guess it did...
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2605 times:
Pan Am flew 741 from LAX on almost every route from LAX except to Sydney nonstop, the 747SP was the only plane capable of nonstop there. LAX to NRT and LAX to LHR were the two flown most of the 747-100 era from LAX by PA until NRT was sold off to United in 1986 and LHR was sold to UA too in 1991.
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2434 times:
TWA also operated the LAX to LHR route for as long as Pan AM did with their fleet of 747-131's. I saw the TWA 747 at LHR many times, I had many good flights to Europe on those airplanes in Ambassador Class, will remember them fondly.
NWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1389 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
Quoting N702ML (Reply 5): Effective February 1, 1987:
Quoting N702ML (Reply 5): PA 122 to SEA (3:20pm; Fr) 747
I flew PA to SEA from LAX in May/1987, probably it was this flight. I think it continued to FRA, there were German speaking students aboard.
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