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Lambert Now Offering Incentives  
User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Well, well. It looks like my hometown airport will begin offering incentives up to $5 million dollars through 2009. Michael Boyd endorses the incentive program, for what its worth.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/bus...E72C6862572C0000C2620?OpenDocument

New and expanded customs facilities and an incentive program now in place, it makes you wonder if they are gunning for Lufthansa, British Airways of restoration of AA London service. Not that I think it would necessarily work, but it would be interesting to see a carrier give it another go.

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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

Wow, this is kind of surprising. Wasn't the rumor a few months back that JetBlue walked away from the negotiating table with STL because they were unwilling to offer B6 incentives to fly there?


Good goes around!
User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Perhaps this thread should be merged with "What is JetBlue's Next City?"  Wink

User currently offlineMrSTL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

The new international customs area is done this month- or at least this is what the TSA told me as I went through security last Wednesday.


With the Midwest deal falling though for AirTran and previous talks of a substantial JetBlue arrival hopefully these incentives will cement a deal!


User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 1):
Wow, this is kind of surprising. Wasn't the rumor a few months back that JetBlue walked away from the negotiating table with STL because they were unwilling to offer B6 incentives to fly there?

Yes, although I'm pretty sure that's more of a certainty than a rumor. More than a few sources have confirmed that it went down that way. In fact, it was supposed to be announced twice, once with CMH and one other time. Apparently Lambert officials at that time were not willing to give into what were considered to be crazy demands.


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2940 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Perhaps under open skies STL-London might return, whether on AA or BA??

One could wonder.


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Without connectiuons beyond LGW, I doubt BA could make STL-LGW work.

I remember in the 1970s when BCAL flew to STL with D10s. I also remember MX 727s there.


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2940 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 6):
Without connectiuons beyond LGW, I doubt BA could make STL-LGW work.

Well there are limited connections on both ends from AA in STL and BA in LGW (key word: limited). Perhaps a seasonal flight could work? Or maybe UK-STL will be a Ryanair route.  Smile


User currently offlineIcelandairMSP From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Nah. STL is a good excuse for AA to capitalize on more passengers flying AA in connecting and filter them through ORD or DFW and send them over to Europe. I'm sure the O/D is there for a daily flight but as long as this is a secondary hub for AA, people will just be send through the other hubs. Ryanair though would be a distinct possibility.

User currently offlineR2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2742 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Though I see it unlikely in the short term, I would love to see STL get a transatlantic flight!  crossfingers 

User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2457 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1531 times:

International service with AA is extremely doubtful IMO. Dictator Daily pressured AA a while back for wanting them to decrease service at ORD and increase service at STL. Well, we all know how that turned out, so I say chances of this are a snow balls chance near an AA 767 engine run up.  duck 

I still doubt Jet Blue very much. From what I've heard here at A.net and around the ramp at STL, the mentioned incentives would only be a part of what Jet Blue wanted to begin with.



Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin'!
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

AirTran -

i wouldn't be surprised to see AirTran take advantage of these incentives. they'll add points in Florida and then everyone will go ga ga over how they are going to hub here. when the incentives are gone, AirTran will see they can no longer make a quick buck and bail the hell out.


American -

nothing in it for American to invest in long term. it might bring back the second daily to Las Vegas if there is a cut off date or not as to "expanded scheduled service would entail." a possible remote chance of Portland Oregon coming into the system. everything else would be dependant upon Eagle or Connection try-outs or additions.

Frontier -

could benefit with a re-tweaking of their schedules. hello E-170.


Southwest -

airline typically doesnt make knee jerk reactions into markets or go with temporary planned service, but it's a clear signal it's hoping they'll connect St. Louis nonstop to Philadelphia or at the very least ... Pittsburgh.


USA 3000 -

could also stand to benefit with the addition of flights. but since they are a privately owned airline, i wonder how much risk they are willing to take. perhaps another additional flight into Ft. Myers or St. Pete. they did already try Ft. Lauderdale once before...


US Airways -

perhaps they got the memo that American dumped one flight a day into Las Vegas. however, St. Louis is not one of their srongest stations.


Northwest -

doesn't really stand to benefit much.


Delta -

doesn't really stand to benefit much.


Continental -

doesn't really stand to benefit much.


United -

doesn't really stand to benefit much.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 7):
Or maybe UK-STL will be a Ryanair route.

the pampered people of St. Louis that can afford a European vacation would never fly on something like Ryanair.



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