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Apparently 30 UFO 787s NOT A US Carrier  
User currently offlinePopski87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 5 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14989 times:

According to market watch.com, the 30 UFO orders are not from a US carrier and they are not an add-on order. This could get very interesting!

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...738-4576-44DC-9AD7-9FAD78F735BD%7D

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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5737 posts, RR: 48
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14939 times:

I think AA will order it by Paris and they'll be taking 100 or so.


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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14860 times:

"The newspaper said the unusually large and hush-hush order "


Amen to that! This order is being kept extremely close to the vest, from what I've been able to gather.


Regards,

Hamlet69  profile 



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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14767 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 2):
The newspaper said the unusually large and hush-hush order "


Amen to that! This order is being kept extremely close to the vest, from what I've been able to gather

Why are these things kept "hush hush"?


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14735 times:

Im hoping its the Ryanair plan.... The articles about the Ryanair articles all stated a 2009/2010 start, yet said they wanted to wait for the prices to come down and orders to slow down meaning they wouldnt order right yet, but then that would also mean that the 2009/2010 timeframe wouldnt hold. Perhaps trying to blind-side the competition....


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5737 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14737 times:

I think it's LH. 30 sounds like the right number for them.


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User currently offlinePEET7G From Hungary, joined Jan 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14634 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 5):
I think it's LH. 30 sounds like the right number for them.

I don't think, but I hope you are right  Smile



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User currently offlinePopski87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14609 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 2):
Amen to that! This order is being kept extremely close to the vest, from what I've been able to gather.

That' why I don't think its AA. Everyone is expecting AA to order it so why would they bother keeping it "hush-hush" and waiting till the Paris air show to disclose it?


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14575 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 5):
I think it's LH. 30 sounds like the right number for them.

Yea that was LH ! Just yestarday they ordered 40 regional airplanes , it´s very very possible that´s LH ...


User currently offlineDaus From United States of America, joined May 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14470 times:

Quoting Amirs (Reply 3):
Why are these things kept "hush hush"?

Well, it it's a European carrier, they are probably trying to keep this quiet as to not offend or arouse the Airbus political machine.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14470 times:

Quoting Popski87 (Thread starter):
Im hoping its the Ryanair plan.... The articles about the Ryanair articles all stated a 2009/2010 start, yet said they wanted to wait for the prices to come down and orders to slow down meaning they wouldnt order right yet, but then that would also mean that the 2009/2010 timeframe wouldnt hold.

While Ryanair is not involved with this grand new airline, their CEO, Micheal O'Leary (MOL) is. It will be a new airline "completely" independent of Ryanair, or so MOL is claiming. He also places himself not at the CEO of the new airline but as chairman of the board. He is also talking about being the Chairman of the Ryanair board, so the linkage is really there.

All that said, if MOL calls up Boeing and asks, "How much for 30 787s with an option for 20 more?", he will certainly receive a very good price.

Your point about delivery times is clearly right on target. He would pretty much have to order now to get them in the next three or four years. Likewise, he is not likely to wait for the 350 which is due in 2012 to 2015 depending on who you believe.

Most likely the airline will be announced around the time of the Paris Airshow. Gonna be interesting.  yes 


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3508 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14437 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 5):
I think it's LH. 30 sounds like the right number for them.

No way.

My guess goes with Ryanair.


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14290 times:

Quoting Daus (Reply 9):
Well, it it's a European carrier, they are probably trying to keep this quiet as to not offend or arouse the Airbus political machine.

But if at some point it has to be announced anyway, why "tomorrow" versus today?



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User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14175 times:

And what about TUIFly??

I know 30 is a huge number, but they need it for many European markets, plus I think they are planning to enter massive in the long haul leisure scheduled market.


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14122 times:

The newspaper, citing a source familiar with the order, said the identity of the customer is being closely held within Boeing until the airline is ready to disclose the order, which could happen at the Paris Air Show in June.

The newspaper said the unusually large and hush-hush order raises speculation that it could be from one of the key airlines considering the 787 or the Airbus A350, which include heavyweights British Airways, Lufthansa, and Emirates.



I guess it shouldn't be that hard to figure out...Just take note of who keeps hush-hush about anything A350 until the Paris Air Show. Big grin



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User currently offlineDaus From United States of America, joined May 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14122 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 12):
But if at some point it has to be announced anyway, why "tomorrow" versus today?

There could be all kinds of reasons. If they are worried about offending the Airbus crowd they may be working on a side deal for Airbus aircraft to match with this order. This appeared to happen a while back with LH when they made the 747-8i order, there were A340's announced at the same time.

If it's the Ryanair thing, that's a huge strategic move that they would not want to telegraph to the market till the last possible second.

And lastly, to announce at Air Shows is a tradition. Lots of press and publicity.


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3384 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13991 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 14):
I guess it shouldn't be that hard to figure out...Just take note of who keeps hush-hush about anything A350 until the Paris Air Show.

Well it's not going to be EK - Clark couldn't keep quiet for 12 minutes a definitely not 12 weeks! Big grin


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13927 times:

I dont think it would be the Ryanair long haul project. Its just too soon. The "airline" is not even a company at this stage. The whole thing began as an 'off the cuff' remark by MOL to a German journalist. It blew up from there.
I'll put it like this, MOL's long haul PLAN has no;

CEO (MOL would be the chairman, not CEO)
No management team
No certificate of incorporation
No AOC
and most crucially of all:
No money/Investors.

I'm not saying this will not happen. It could well do. But it wont happen this decade. Or until the midle of the next one, at the earliest.

The order seems a bit small to be an Emirates order, were they not talking of a 100 frame order? I suppose they could add extra frames later.

There is an outside chance that this could be an order from a lessor as well.

Brian.



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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13829 times:

 cloudnine   cloudnine 


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13806 times:

Quoting Daus (Reply 9):
Well, it it's a European carrier, they are probably trying to keep this quiet as to not offend or arouse the Airbus political machine.

Why does nonsense like that have to keep coming up?  Yeah sure

Quoting Daus (Reply 15):
If they are worried about offending the Airbus crowd they may be working on a side deal for Airbus aircraft to match with this order. This appeared to happen a while back with LH when they made the 747-8i order, there were A340's announced at the same time.

Well, obviously the "side deal" to avoid "offending the Airbus crowd" couldn't possibly have had anything to do with the fact that they not only need the planes, but are in fact happy with the A340, right?  Yeah sure ... after all, it's an Airbus, and even worse, an A340... no-one could be happy with that plane, right?  Yeah sure

a.net never fails to disappoint..........  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13777 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 4):
Im hoping its the Ryanair plan....



Quoting Danny (Reply 11):
My guess goes with Ryanair.

I opined this last week, but couldn' t get a rise out of anyone!  Wink

How about Air France as a potential candidate?



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13753 times:

But the 787 does not really fit into the stategy of LH to focus on three,four Inercontinental Hubs (FRA,MUC,ZRH,VIE..)
There might be the occasional Interconti flight from HAM or DUS,but their strategy is rather on large volume aircraft.
The 787 would be too small for those hubs ..



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User currently offlineDaus From United States of America, joined May 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13725 times:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 19):
Why does nonsense like that have to keep coming up?

If you don't believe politcal pressure is applied to the purchasing companies (from both the American and Euro side) you are simply nieve.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13692 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 20):

How about Air France as a potential candidate?

I was thnking about this one myself. I think it is a little unlikely that AF/KL would order the 787 at this stage. KL have just phased out the last of the 763's and replaced them with A330s. Similarly AF was late to the A330 game. Top-up orders for the A330 are more likely for AF/KL than orders for the 787/A350. Perhaps once both the 787 and 350 enter service then AF/KL will make a decision on that size of widebody.

Brian.



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13660 times:

I believe that Iberia might be a likely candidate to fill those 30 B787 (UFO's)

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00002604.jpg

Regards,
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25 LHUSA : Please let it be LH!!!!!
26 Lumberton : Does IB need that many planes? Good points. What if it's not a euro carrier? How about South America? GOL/RG?
27 Thorben : If not even 1000. If it is a public company, they have to announce a deal like that. Did LH keep their 747-8 order a secret? Besides, why is Boeing a
28 LHStarAlliance : Yeaaaah !! Please !!!!! NO
29 HighFlyer9790 : for what market niche? they have plenty of A321s/A330s/A340s, so the 787 would simply do nothing, unless they want to replace a bunch of perfectly co
30 Airbazar : Which of the original A350 customers have not yet agreed to convert those orders to the A350XWB? I know TP hasn't and in fact as of last month they we
31 LHStarAlliance : 67 unidentified this year so far ... what´s happening is this normal ?? Konstantin
32 NYC777 : Or it could be a Middle Eastern carrier (save for EK), like Ethiad or Oman Air.
33 LHStarAlliance : US , QR , Yemenia (?) , JJ ...
34 Columba : Today is a LH shareholders meeting, isn' t it ? Out of these three LH is the most likely candidate. LH said they would place an order in spring 2007.
35 AirFrnt : RyanAir can handle the traffic with the 737-700ER. A 788 would be a pretty significant seat count boost for them. CASM would be higher, but they woul
36 LHStarAlliance : That´s right in Berlin
37 Post contains images Basefly : Come on...... Are you for real......? My money is on Ryanair, If it were LH, the only reason they should keep it quiet is if it was for the Paris air
38 Post contains images Leskova : If you think that carriers like LH or BA give politicians trying to get them to order Airbusses more than a smile and a friendly handshake, then you'
39 Drerx7 : Its the airlines discretion to announce...not the manufacturer.
40 NYC777 : I don't think any airlines would hold off from announcing an order for Boeing for fear of what Airbus would think or say...these are adults not kids.
41 Post contains images Norcal773 : We should all wait and stop wetting our pants. I am sure it'll be announced soon.
42 Jimyvr : AF, LH or IB. Particularly AF's launch of -10X?
43 N1786b : Air show and maybe, if you think it is AF, the upcoming French elections? - n1786b
44 Jfk777 : For all we know it is Aerolinias Argentinas. My bet its a major European airline since none have ordered the new 787 yet. Lufthansa could but British
45 Columba : AF said that they don' t want to decide on the 787 A350 that early. If it is one out of these three you mentioned it is LH. LH said they will decide
46 FlyUSCG : I would love to see the day when Boeing stops posting orders. I'm willing to bet 90% of you on here would just keel over and die. Just remember folks,
47 AirFrnt : Airbus has a different policy then Airbus does.
48 RL757PVD : Well its not Ryanair, but the ryanair people came right out and said they are lookijng to buy 787s or A350s for a seperate airline that would take th
49 Post contains images Daus : And you may have mis-judged my comments. I wasn't implying that the politics were the determining factor in the order, the question was asked as to w
50 Columba : AF said that they don' t want to decide on the 787 A350 that early. If it is one out of these three it is again LH. LH said they will decide in sprin
51 Byrdluvs747 : I'm hoping for BA, AA, or CX. I would like tot see another big airline sign on. LH or AF would be great as well.
52 Post contains links Poitin : You should take to reading Bloomberg, Brian. MOL has all the money he needs, so he has investors and I am sure he has a management team. He has to ge
53 Columba : AF said that they don' t want to decide on the 787 A350 that early. If it is one out of these three it is again LH. LH said they will decide in sprin
54 Post contains images Basefly : So if we follow your statement, LH should have experiansd an drop in sales if they only had announsed the 747-8 order?? Come on..... Dont believe eve
55 LHStarAlliance : And just yesterday LH ordered 40 A/Cs
56 Post contains images Basefly : So if we follow your statement, LH should have experienced an drop in sales if they only had announced the 747-8 order?? Come on..... Dont believe ev
57 Stitch : Richard Abolufia believes it is BA, AA or DL per an interview this morning on Seattle radio.
58 JRDC930 : Because while it may be nonsense for this order, there is some truth to the statement about avoiding airbus's political machine. More to the point ho
59 Cubastar : It's Aeroflot. They just changed their minds again.
60 Columba : this could indeed be a sign for LH as they said they want to order additional A380s.
61 LTU932 : LH could be ordering the 787-10 and thus become the launch customer for it, and maybe they're code is used by DE for an order of a handful of 787-8s
62 USAF336TFS : I'd have to agree with you Columba. This does sound like it's LH. The aircraft noted were mostly 787-9s which suggests to me that the 787 won the int
63 BigJKU : Just a thought but it does not really matter what hub you are flying out of or into. A 787 is useful if you are flying from somewhere that cannot sup
64 Magyar : And you really think that one can keep such thing "hush hush" from the "Airbus political machine". Those who has the power to do something can find t
65 Justloveplanes : LH makes the most sense. They said they would make a decision this year IIRC. BA would lose a lot of credibility if it was them after making all this
66 Ken777 : My first thought is what airlines have 787 slots and need to order them or lose the slots? While LH & BA fit that criteria I doubt if Boeing will pull
67 LHStarAlliance : This sounds pretty logical for me , 30 787s and 5 777F getting a discount for the 777 , man I smell a LARGE LH order ! Konstantin
68 Leskova : Not really... if an airline wants to have an order made public, then Airbus will make it public. While everyone on here keeps on going on and on abou
69 NYC777 : I wonder if Boeing has alrady planned decided on a production increase have started selling the slots of the increase? I wouldn't be surprised if that
70 Post contains images AirSpare : My money is on BA, but just maybe the order will blow everyone away and come from GOL. Will Tam and Gol start a slug fest? Are these the new Varig pla
71 LHStarAlliance : What Update ??
72 NYC777 : Boeing updates their orders on a weekly basis (every Thursday) and it's posted on their web site.
73 DLLongIsland : From what I've gathered, having several family members and friends who work for DL, it is indeed Delta. According to what I've heard, the announcement
74 LHStarAlliance : But it will stay as UFO , right ?
75 Post contains links NYC777 : Yes any UFO's stay UFOs unless the buyer decides to go public and then Boeing changes it. But they add any new orders including any new UFOs every we
76 YLWbased : maybe it is for CX *just dreaming*
77 Post contains images LHStarAlliance : Thank you NYC777 , so we will not know that´til the airline decides to make it public ... man that could last months ...
78 Columba : They planned to announce an order to replace their 744 and A343s last year. The 744s are being replaced with 747-8Is as we all know. They postponed t
79 NYC777 : Or years. There are a few, not many, UFO that were ordered a along time a go that still remain unidentified. You can run the report on Boeing's order
80 LHStarAlliance : That´s really odd ... I hope they say it soon ...
81 BigJKU : Perhapse they are going to replace those planes in the future and do some expansion? Just a thought. While they may be realtivly new now by the time
82 NYC777 : If this order is for LH, then that begs the question as to what is going on in the A350 program? It seems to me that if Airbus had made progress on th
83 Semobeila : LH supervisory board meeting was yesterday, where they approved the regional plane order. The 30 UFOs were booked last week - therefore I think it's v
84 Post contains links LHStarAlliance : new news : 30 UFO's Are For A US Carrier (DELTA) (by DLLongIsland Apr 18 2007 in Civil Aviation)
85 Dank : But the shareholder meeting today, I assume matches the board meeting from this week. And board approval would have been needed before the order (the
86 Birdbrainz : I'm going to second that. My logic is that BA doesn't want to be a launch customer for anything, and I'd think they'd need to start replacing the 767
87 Dank : You beat me to it! But exactly what I was thinking. cheers.
88 USAF336TFS : Or within the next few days. If it is LH, I don't see a reason for them to wait until the Paris Airshow. They're projecting a profit of 1 billion Eur
89 ATCGOD : More like rumor...friends and family tell me things all the time but that doesn't make it newsworthy.
90 Stitch : Trick is, unless BA has something up their sleeve in terms of slot deposits, the absolute earliest they could get them is around 2011 or so - and tha
91 LHStarAlliance : remember that the airlines have to wait until ~2014 to get the A/Cs then the not so old 343s will be over 20 years so LH has to think now for a repla
92 FLY2LIM : You guys are all crazy. It's NW and they are FINALLY going to replace their DC-9s, he he he. I couldn't resist. FLY2LIM
93 Post contains images Columba : As I said earlier they also said they postponed the order for new long haul aircraft to spring 2007 instead of Winter 2006. Together with the board m
94 Dank : You're still missing the fact that these 787 orders were made BEFORE the board meeting. If they had been added to the Boeing order book this week, I
95 LHStarAlliance : Also the Number is perfect for LH they need 30 A/Cs for replace ... Seit wann bist du in den USA ?? Konstantin
96 Hinckley : Maybe they're waiting to firm up a follow-on A380 order so that they can announce orders for both manufacturers at once. It's what they did with last
97 Post contains images Columba :
98 LHStarAlliance : Remember before the 748 order they ordered some 321 and 320 and some weeks later the big one maybe same now , yesterday the RJ order and in some weeks
99 NYC777 : Starts June 18th. Two months from now.
100 Post contains images LHStarAlliance : Oh man so long , can´t wait more ... I hope I can visit it , hopefully it´s a weekend ...
101 JD747 : It would be wonderful to see Boeing planes back to IB, but I will believe it when I see it with my eyes... Regards
102 Post contains images DEVILFISH : It's very hush-hush because it's SU smarting from the EADS rebuff, so it increased its order to spite them.
103 Stirling : Lufthansa is the last airline I would think is behind this order. As was already mentioned, the potential markets for the 787, they have covered alrea
104 Glideslope : 3-4 years ago I would disagree with this. Now I agree whole hardily. If correct this would explain Mr. Leahy's robust proclamation's of the year 2007
105 Birdbrainz : That was my point. However, if they waited for the A350, they'd be one of the first.
106 B707Stu : Why is KLM-Air France being ruled out?
107 Post contains images Paulcaz : I Bet Its Virgin watch this space.Virgin will buy Boeing in the future I am convinced!
108 Post contains images Algoz : Surely not!!!! This aircraft only has 2 engines, and we all know Mr Branson boasts "4 engines 4 longhaul". (unless he's changed his mind again, a bit
109 Post contains links Columba : Lufthansa denied to have ordered 30 787 aircraft: Link in German: http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...ichten-2007-04/artikel-8090579.asp But I supp
110 Zkojh : could this be a big change for BD?! love to see the 787's in bd's colours or WW going longhaul lol....
111 Post contains images LifelinerOne : Well, they are a public registered company. They can't go telling the media that they didn't order anything and announce that they did order somethin
112 Columba : Nobody would care if they announce the order at the Paris Air Show together with additional A380s. If the deal is not yet closed or it affects anothe
113 Semobeila : Well I assume this has simply been the answer to a journalist's question.
114 DeltaDC9 : No these are adults working for a giant corporation with large law firms on retainer. Airbus has sued or threatened to sue on several occasions over
115 Stitch : That would be totally out of character [for Boeing]... As to their recent history, true, but remember that Airbus is going to try and use Paris to bo
116 Dank : And this is the thing witht he UFOs. The contract has been signed. This doesn't mean that they aren't finalzing an order and will buy the 787. But th
117 Leskova : Not saying anything and outright denying something are two entirely different things... Airbus has not sued anyone because of lost bids - what they h
118 Stitch : The British Pound just passed $2USD today, so now would be a great time for BA to order, since the currency favors them greatly...
119 Airbazar : Why or what would it be out of character? Offering incentives to prospective customers or holding off on announcements? Because they've done both in
120 Post contains images USAF336TFS : Best answer I got to my question and it certainly makes perfect sense. Thanks Stitch! I'm still thinking it's LH and BA a distant second.
121 ATCGOD : " target=_blank>http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...9.asp So you still think it's LH even after they've publicly denied it? I'm curious to know why
122 DeltaDC9 : Because Boeing has had a policy of holding off on announcing orders until the customer makes its announcment with no regard to airshows or anything e
123 Columba : I still believe it is LH as well. I believe it is a similar situation like the one as they announced the order for the A346 together with the one for
124 Post contains images USAF336TFS : I wasn't aware that they've publicly denied it, and if they said so in German, there's even less likelihood I would know it... But thanks for pointin
125 ATCGOD : True, but why the need to say anything at all? A simple "no comment" would suffice instead of blatantly saying "no it's not us". I don't know what th
126 Dank : As ATCGOD has said, it isn't that they didn't tell a journalist that they were the purchaser, they actually flat out said that they weren't. You have
127 Cure : Are you guys serious about this kind of thoughts?: the entire world is actually REVOLVING exactly around these matters, and I think everyone who does
128 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Could you link to the report that shows that? According to my information, Boeing has not released a model breakdown yet, nor will they until they ha
129 Dank : Hi Hamlet, According to the article here (http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?rssFeed=news&id=24633): "The order, added to Boeing's Web site l
130 Cure : I thought exactly the same thing. And they will fly (almost) them all to the US....!!
131 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Dank, Ok, thanks a lot for that. Curious that he was allowed to give a model, when no one else has been. . . Regards, Hamlet69
132 Dank : My pleausre. Although the real credit should go to whomever had posted that article on the DL thread. No idea why this wasn't reported elsewhere (may
133 Leskova : Air India - certainly, that was way over the top (despite the rather strange way the process was handled by AI and the Indian government) Air Canada?
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