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Airways Mag Curse?  
User currently offlineAirTranTPAramp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5800 times:

i was going through some old airwasy magazines and i noticed an article on ZIP, Harmony and Jetsgo and within a few months those airlines folded, or discontinued service within a few months of the article. i think they did one on ATA right before they gave WN alot of there service and gates, and independence Air but we knew Independence Air was doomed from the start, using RJ's the We got planes, we got gates what the hell" philosophy didnt work. and i just remebered a hooters Air article, anyone eles notice this?

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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5747 times:

Never really noticed, but now that you mentioned it, it seems pretty clear that they keep picking airlines that are about to go away...


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User currently offlineCV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5715 times:

Also add JetMagic to that list- it might not have been Airways, but they were in one of those magazines either the month or the month before they folded. Aviation's example of the Sports Illustrated Curse?


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User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

pro air, national, etc etc etc

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5714 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5572 times:
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May not be a curse so much, likely that those carriers that are "challenged" make the most interesting stories.

Cheers



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5548 times:
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Quoting AirTranTPAramp (Thread starter):
We got planes, we got gates what the hell" philosophy didnt work. and i just remebered a hooters Air article, anyone eles notice this?

Keep NWA off the cover of this magazine



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3195 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5491 times:

Airliners has had the same problem. In 1999 they did an article on WinAir, which managed to fold before press time. They noted the shutdown it in the editor's column; they didn't alter the article itself.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

Quoting AirTranTPAramp (Thread starter):

Thought about this very thing a month or so ago. Airliners Mag had a decent spread on Harmony. Next thing I know - poof - Harmony was done.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5410 times:

Quoting AirTranTPAramp (Thread starter):
i was going through some old airwasy magazines and i noticed an article on ZIP, Harmony and Jetsgo and within a few months those airlines folded, or discontinued service within a few months of the article.

They must have something against Canadian airlines, you can add Canada3000 and Canadian to that list ....  scratchchin 



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User currently offlineCschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5384 times:

Hmmmm, that is an interesting observation. But some of those articles were undoubtedly done shortly after the airlines were established, and then they didn't last too long. But then think about all the carriers profiled that still are around. Probably jetBlue, ....uh.....let's see.....well, ok, maybe not.

User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1453 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5326 times:

Quoting AirTranTPAramp (Thread starter):
i think they did one on ATA right before they gave WN alot of there service and gates

Your theory doesn't work here. ATA is still around and will be for the foreseeable future. All of those other airlines ceased all service and went out of business.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5072 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
Thought about this very thing a month or so ago. Airliners Mag had a decent spread on Harmony. Next thing I know - poof - Harmony was done.

I thought the same thing, but had the questions in the mind after reading about the CEO's sudden departure from the company.



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User currently offlineKdonohue From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5230 times:

Interesting observation. I actually wrote the ZIP, Harmony and Canadian stories for Airways. The Canadian story actually appeared after they were bought out by Air Canada. CP had been stringing me along for two years to get an interview with one of their executives.

As a few people pointed out, there are many airlines that have been profiled in the magazine that are still doing fine.

Cheers,

K.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

Quoting Kdonohue (Reply 12):
Interesting observation. I actually wrote the ZIP, Harmony and Canadian stories for Airways. The Canadian story actually appeared after they were bought out by Air Canada. CP had been stringing me along for two years to get an interview with one of their executives.

Hey Ken! Just another observation, you did the article on LTU a couple of months back, and now they're tied up with Air Berlin .....  scratchchin   Wink



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User currently offlineLVHGEL From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2007, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5017 times:

Well, There are two possible explanations,

1) In lieu of their problems, these airlines where looking into a good industry profile as an additional PR tool to make themselves look good, to their PAX, peers and/or potential investors.

2) Maybe the magazine has the same jinx as the front page of Sports Illustrated

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/cover/2002/jinx/main/


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4966 times:

There was a cover photo of the UA 772 in new colors, and UA started doing better afterwards.

User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2565 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4831 times:

Actually it's just mathematics. How many stable long-lasing airlines are there? How long would it be before these magazines have profiled them all? A couple years at most. Then what will the magazine do? They have to put out issues every month, so in the end they will profile a number of airlines that fail because that is the fate of more than half of all airline startups. It's not a curse, but merely the normal workings of the airline industry.

HAL



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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Quoting HAL (Reply 16):
Actually it's just mathematics. How many stable long-lasing airlines are there? How long would it be before these magazines have profiled them all? A couple years at most. Then what will the magazine do? They have to put out issues every month, so in the end they will profile a number of airlines that fail because that is the fate of more than half of all airline startups. It's not a curse, but merely the normal workings of the airline industry.

Good point, but I think there have been a few close coincidences, when a magazine prints an article and the following month the airline ceases to be.

Airliners did one on My Travel a few months back, now they are merging. They did Jets Go as well and they went under a few months after (although they were in a bit of bother at the time).

I must agree with your reasoning there though, sound logic  Smile

Phil
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User currently offlineSEAdomer787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 115 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4184 times:
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There was also an interview with the CEO of JetBlue (basically singing its operational praises) prior to the Valentine's Day fiasco, which ironically was featured in an issue right around Feb 2007.

User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 5):
Keep NWA off the cover of this magazine

Too late. I have a copy of an Airways magazine saluting the retirement of the DC-10s, I got it just after I started training for Worldwide in January. It was only a partial cover, other airlines were the main focus, but NWA was on the cover! Look out!  Wink



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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

Ha,ha,ha,ha!!! this is hilarious!
I thought the same thing a few years ago! Almost every airline on the cover already dissapeared or is in banckruptcy!

Just a coincidence. But still...


User currently offlineAirTranTPAramp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

well it is noce to know im not crazy and am the only person who thought about this. I still find it amazing though and I though Harmony was doing great by reading the article and then i read here its ceasing operations andsame with jetsgo and if i remember they did one on southeast as well.

User currently offlineHughesAirwest From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

Quoting AirTranTPAramp (Thread starter):
i was going through some old airwasy magazines and i noticed an article on ZIP, Harmony and Jetsgo and within a few months those airlines folded, or discontinued service within a few months of the article.

When did Harmony fold? A trip last summer to Vancouver I saw a HMY (Harmony) ac at the gate.



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User currently offlineAirTranTPAramp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

Harmony is ceasing operations by mid may i believe, someone please correct me if I am wrong

User currently offlineKdonohue From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

HughesAirwest,

Harmony's last flight was a few weeks ago.


25 HughesAirwest : Kdonohue Thanks for the info. I am a little suprised, I thought the airline was doing well. This industry is so volitale that anything can happen sudd
26 Jholiiday : They did a big spread on Western Pacific a few years back... buh-bye...
27 B757capt : Somebody call them and ask them to throw midwest on the cover........................................
28 Hawaiian717 : April 2004 issue. Though the article is not a profile of Midwest, but one describing the process of delivering a new airplane to a customer, and the
29 B757capt : Outstanding........I see Airtran and Southwest have been on there as well. So looks like this one doesn't hold either.....
30 FWAERJ : Add these two airlines to the list: Airways also did a big article on Air Paradise International shortly before they folded. And they were going to do
31 LHRBFSTrident : IIRC the same thing happened to Duo Airways based at BHX - by the time the issue was in print, Duo had ceased operations - the irony is all those stor
32 Post contains images LVHGEL : So, the bottom line would be that if your Airline was in the Featured Article of Airways Magazine call a "witch doctor" because is most definitely "Ba
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