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User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

Hey a.netters,

I was just messing around with the photo engine on a.net and a searched for pics under Aero Califoria and I began to wonder if this is where IB got their idea of their current livery. It looks so similar. Any thoughts?

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User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2737 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

I think it has to do with the climate as well as with the culture.

Iberia's colors reflect those of its national flag, which are tipically associated with the Mediterranean climate of Andalucia, the state most representative of Spanish culture.

AeroCalifornia's colors also represent the Mediterranean climate that characterizes the two Californias, one which is on Mexican territory, the other U.S. territory.

It is stated by many experts that California's climate is exactly like that of Spain. As you may know, California was once part of the large Spanish empire, and California itself is a Spanish word. So maybe here lies the answer to your question.

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineClydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

How long are Aero California operating, that IB colour scheme dates from the 70's.
Also there is a lot more to Spain than Andalucia, there was not much happening there pre 60's. It does though have the magnificent Alhambra, but then again that's not Spanish, it's Moorish.
But i agree with you on the livery, in the 70's a major part of Iberia's purpose was to bring tourists to the Sun resorts, so the livery was probably designed to represent that. I don't think they even operate from Malaga to any european city anymore.


User currently offlineCessnalady From Mexico, joined May 2004, 310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Aerocalifornia started operations in or around 1982. This renders Iberia's livery prior to theirs, as I have a photograph of myself with an IB B741 named "Calderón de la Barca", sporting the current livery, on my first transatlantic flight, back in 1978.

Marie


User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 1):
Andalucia, the state most representative of Spanish culture.

I always thought of Castille as the core of Spanish culture and Andalucia as a sort of poor relation. A black sheep if you will.

To me AeroCalifornia reminded me of the later livery of the US carrier AirCal which looked like this:

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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

To me it looks more similar to the old Frontier livery:


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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

All I know is both are one of the BEST liveries around, especially among latin airlines.

I hope they never get changed, if the new Delta puke is any indication of how it's gonna look like  Smile


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5194 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

Warm climate, warm colors. Pretty basic relationship between the geography and the liveries.


Ozark Airlines, Coast to Coast and Border to Border.
User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2737 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 7):
Warm climate, warm colors. Pretty basic relationship between the geography and the liveries

Correct. Like I said, the climate that you find along the large populated areas in California like San Francisco, San Jose, Monterey, Santa Maria, Santa Barbara, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Juan Capistrano, etc. etc. are Mediterranean climate. The cities situated further in the valleys (Fresno, Bakersfield, Modesto) are Desert climate. Most of California's based airlines as well as other companies have have taken this into consideration and so the colors used in their corporate identity reflect this tradition.


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The unforgetable PSA - Pacific Southwest Airlines - based in San Diego


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Skywest Airlines


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Golden West - I believe they were from Fresno.


So you see, all of these carriers used similar if not the same colors used by both Iberia/AeroCafornia.

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineMakemineslax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

To expand upon the "local color" theory, I can offer these additions:

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In addition, there are some more obvious ones:

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Quoting Latinplane (Reply 8):
Golden West - I believe they were from Fresno.

I don't remember precisely where their corporate HQ was located, but they were definitely hubbed at LAX. IIRC, the closest they came to FAT was SBA to the northwest and IYK to the northeast. Perhaps you were thinking of the old Skywest (more below)-, which covered Northern and Central California with Shorts 360s in the 70s/80s. I can't find a picture, but I recall the livery had reddish tones.

The old Golden West livery is worth including:

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FWIW, the Skywest Metro shown above still carries the "new" Sun Aire c/s, so that example is not indicative of Skywest's true colors. Here are the new and old Sun Aire liveries:

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User currently offlineWDBRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

All this reminds me of the 1970's "earth color scheme"
browns, orange/red and gold were very popular.

CO had this scheme ON their planes,
EA had this scheme IN their planes.

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