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Possible Design Of The 737RS  
User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11034 times:

Just a fun post about what you guys think about this aircraft and if this could be a similar design of the upcoming 737RS. all opinions are welcome. I personally think this would be an awesome design, like a miniature 787. After all, boeing already has the technology from the 787.
Here's the link...
http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/A8...aisleaircraftartistsimpression.jpg


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11018 times:

Panelized metal construction, square windows and a square-tube fuselage?

Nope, don't see it.

And don't even seriously consider those engines...  Wink



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User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10981 times:
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Leave it to Volvo to make things square. Big grin

User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10611 times:

What is that?


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3307 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10591 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Panelized metal construction, square windows and a square-tube fuselage?

Sure, why not. Several reasons.

1) Simple construction just to slap panels together.
2) Keeps the Volvo look to have everything square and ugly.
3) Always nice when history repeats itself. Maybe the Comet disasters inspired them.

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User currently offlineKhenleyDIA From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10516 times:

Hmmm... The engine nacelles look like something that Airbus tried on one of their A32X for a test. The shark fin is back again. If such a plane is made, the shark fin will go away again.

As for the windows, come on guys, square is in! Forget safety! OR, they have decided that they won't pressurize it.  Smile

The interior leaves something to be desired. For those wondering what I am talking about, it appears that they won't have one. When you are checking in for the flight, you will have the option of, "Wing Box" or the "Belly". Looking through the windows, it looks like you can see the wing going through to the other side.  Smile

I think that when Boeing does finish the design for the 737RS, it will most likely be like 2 or 3 main pieces to stick together. Just imagine, if they plan on being able to pump out 787s every few days, 737s will be coming out like a PEZ Dispenser.

Other then some of the details, kind of a cool looking jet!

KhenleyDIA  Smile



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10489 times:

Volvo = Very Odd Looking Vehicle... uhhhh... crap!


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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10105 times:

Quoting Sammyk (Reply 2):
Leave it to Volvo to make things square.

A fuselage like this would give excellent shoulder room. The pic doesn't look all that bad.


User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9608 times:

the cowling's got a fat lip...


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User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1574 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9152 times:
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fat lipped engine would make a difference to fod damage maybe? over short distances maybe a squared fuselage is more efficient even with thicker corners. Think about it, you can fit seats in better and have less of a space under the floor as peeps dont tend to take many bags with them on the shorter flights. less wasted space=more rev. The window shape is strange but it might have nothing to do with pressure bearing structure.

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User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8774 times:

The sugar scoop intake is probably for reducing fan noise heard on the ground, but it would interfere with airflow at high aoa.

User currently offlineGrandTheftAero From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 254 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7235 times:

Quoting Areopagus (Reply 10):
The sugar scoop intake is probably for reducing fan noise heard on the ground

That is correct. And the proper term is "scarfed inlet". Don't laugh. All airframers and engine makers have considered this as method of reducing noise.


User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7013 times:

It's gunna weigh so much...Volvo style.

User currently offlineGlideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6759 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 4):
Sure, why not. Several reasons.

1) Simple construction just to slap panels together.
2) Keeps the Volvo look to have everything square and ugly.
3) Always nice when history repeats itself. Maybe the Comet disasters inspired them.

TIS

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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6669 times:

Looks like the offspring of the 787 and an E-190. I doubt the square windows would make it to a final design due to past history regarding square windows on pressurized a/c. What would look interesting on that a/c idea would be the rounded triangular windows like the Caravelle had.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6469 times:

They need to change those windows with the rounder ones, if they don't want to risk a structural fatigue related crash like with the original Comet I.

User currently offlineSEAdomer787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 115 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6439 times:
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I still like this concept best, basically a baby 787 with blended winglets... and tall ones at that!

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...07/the-737-story-next-in-line.html


User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5470 times:

I don't understand this. I must have missed something, but where does Volvo come into the 737 design?  Confused

What ever this thing is, I don't like it.



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User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5311 times:
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Good looking design! I'd prefer the Gulfstream oval shaped windows myself.

Any idea when we'll see what Boeing has up their sleeve on the 737RS? scratchchin 



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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5166 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 15):
They need to change those windows with the rounder ones, if they don't want to risk a structural fatigue related crash like with the original Comet I.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with square windows provided they are properly engineered. Aircraft have traditionally utilized circular windows because they require less reinforcement and are therefore lighter than square windows. But if an OEM was willing to sacrifice the weight or found a material with the necessary strength properties that there was no significant weight penalty, there is nothing to fear.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 19):
if an OEM was willing to sacrifice the weight or found a material with the necessary strength properties that there was no significant weight penalty, there is nothing to fear.

For the sake of curiousity, would for example CFRP be strong enough to support square windows without risking structural fatigue?


User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

I actually like Volvo's, especially the new S60, it has a new design with rounder shapes.

Back to topic, the aircraft looks ugly. Is it really under development ? It looks horrible, really.



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4920 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
And don't even seriously consider those engines...

http://picavia.foxalpha.com/moyenformat/0304/003605.jpg


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4920 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):

For the sake of curiousity, would for example CFRP be strong enough to support square windows without risking structural fatigue?

I would personally say yes. If you look at the 787 and A350, both OEM are offering much bigger windows than current aircraft because the strength properties of CFRP allow the larger windows without compromise.

But as a truism, I suspect you could always make a larger cicular window for a given material than what would be possible with a square frame. In that regard, I agree that windows should always be rounded if for no other reason than to maximize viewing area.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Regarding the engines, since engine manufacturers started applying Lighthill's 8th power law there's been little they can do to reduce engine noise. The vast majority of noise reduction has come from low specific thrusts. As fan diameters reach their maximum, other advances have to be made to keep up with expect sound reductions. Things like exhaust chevrons, inlet chins and acoustic lining all have a really minimal effect on jet engine sound compared to what was achieved by applying the work of the man himself.

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 25, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 22):

What the heck is that? It looks like GE CFM-56 engine 1 is in a cast of some kind...  ouch 



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