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DOT Approves MSP-MEX For Am  
User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2698 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

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The US DOT allowed AM to start service at MSP using the 737-700. It will start around July 2007. AM can operate this through April 18, 2008. I look forward to seeing AM at MSP.

[Edited 2007-04-23 03:59:37]


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User currently offlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

Dont hold your breath waiting for this route to start. AM has a history of applying for routes and never actually operating them. MSP has better than average chance since it is a Skyteam hub with no competition. It is getting to be late for a route announcement for July, however.

User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

That'd be SWEET. I've been to MSP and love the city. Maybe the can make it work, after all NW is a partner. Also, it could be promoted as a shopping destination a-la San Antonio. Are clothes still tax exempted? They were in 2000 and I got some real bargains.

User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Quoting MSP" class=quote target=_blank>USFlyer MSP (Reply 1):
Are clothes still tax exempted?

Yes they are.

It would be excellent to see AM here in MSP. I'm not counting on it though.

Jeremy


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

As far as skyteam hubs go, they couldn't get a better one. MSP not only has great O/D traffic to mexico (well, in winter at least), but has as strong of a domestic network as any skyteam hub in the US shy of Atlanta. I don't know, I won't hold my breath, but I bet they'll at least try it, and it'll be exciting to see something that isn't NW in MSP...


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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 4):
As far as skyteam hubs go, they couldn't get a better one. MSP not only has great O/D traffic to mexico (well, in winter at least), but has as strong of a domestic network as any skyteam hub in the US shy of Atlanta.

Because why would you fly all the way north for a connecting flight unless you were catching an RJ to somewhere in the local area? IAH is 1/3rd the distance away along the exact same flight path...absolutely no backtracking to fly anywhere in the US, and is a great hub for domestic traffic options. In fact, CO pulls in pax that never even make it to MEX because they serve so many secondary airports in Mexico. If AM is going to make this flight work, it will have to be based on O&D, not connecting traffic, IMO.



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User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2088 times:
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Quoting AM744 (Reply 2):
That'd be SWEET. I've been to MSP and love the city. Maybe the can make it work, after all NW is a partner. Also, it could be promoted as a shopping destination a-la San Antonio. Are clothes still tax exempted? They were in 2000 and I got some real bargains.

Yes, clothing is still exempt from sales tax in Minnesota. Minnesota Sales Tax only applies to items which are not considered "essentials of life," which are considered to be food, clothing and shelter. Of course, there are strange parts to this. Cooked or hot food, like from a restaurant, has sales tax. Food, unprepared, say from a grocery store, is not taxed. Apparently cooked food from a restaurant is not considered "essential to life." There is no sales tax on housing or rental housing. But there is sales tax on hotel rooms. Items at the grocery store which you can't eat are taxed. For example, you can buy soda to drink, no tax. The plastic straws to drink the soda with? Taxed.

It is no coincidence that the Mall of America is right next to MSP airport and that a train will take you there directly. Further, it is very likely you will even APPROACH over the Mall of America while landing  Wink

If you DO come to visit us in MSP and would like to go shopping, we'd love to have you! Like I said, the Mall of America is right next to the airport. But if you want to find better deals, I suggest renting a car (or finding a friend in Minneapolis who likes to shop as well, or catching a bus) and visiting some of the other malls, such as Southdale, Rosedale, Brookdale, Ridgedale (colloquially 'the Dales'), Burnsville Center, any of the shops in Downtown Minneapolis, Eden Prairie Center, etc. All of these malls have better deals. You may fare better, say at Macy's in Southdale or Downtown Minneapolis, than the Mall of America.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2078 times:
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Congratuations to AM for getting this new route to MSP approved. Doesn't NW already fly this route or did it go bye bye after Chapter 11 filing? I hope AM does start service there. It will allow then to keep increasing their presence in the US.

Did AM ever start PHL? I know they were going to or they delay, or shelve it all together? Is it too close to JFK/EWR for it too work?

LACA773


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Reply 1):
Dont hold your breath waiting for this route to start. AM has a history of applying for routes and never actually operating them.

Unfortunately this is true. This makes the fourth or fifth US route that AM has been aproved for.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12257 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2016 times:
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Quoting Acidradio (Reply 6):
For example, you can buy soda to drink, no tax

Actually pop (you're a bad Minnesotan for saying soda..lol) is taxed. Bottled water, however, is not  Smile



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7669 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

AM has applied for other cities including DTW & PHL and never started service so don't get too excited. The like to sit on dormant authorities in case they ever feel like using them.

As said, an AM MSP-MEX flight would be for O&D primarily. There would be very, very little tourist/beach traffic and or connecting traffic from the US. Perhaps some Mexican based passengers connecting onward from MSP but even then. NW's offers nonstops to the Mexican beach destinations seasonally, plus MEX is way to far south & inland. Most of the major manufacturing cities in Mexico are north of MEX too and can easily be reached by connecting in IAH on CO to their RJ service to all Mexican destinations.

Doubtful since will happen anytime soon, but you never know. With the number of routes they ask for, sooner or later they may start one. In reality, a number of US carriers do this too, asking for authorities and going through the approval process with little intentions of actually starting them.


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Somewhere down the road I might need some Calgary and Edmonton connections. Needless to say, MSP would make it short and enjoyable. Don't know, maybe it could work, but then again, it could never happen.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33072 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

Get in line. Minneapolis will start as soon as Stockton, Cleveland, Detroit, Washington Dulles, and Philadelphia do.....


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