Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2884 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5715 times:
I need your assistance here??? I have tried to do a search and cannot see it anywhere on the web or on a.net...
I have it in my head that I read a couple of weeks ago, that BMI will be launching an LHR-CLT service. In line with them taking advantange of the new Open Skies agreement bought in between the US and Europe.
If they are going to offer this service I am viewing it from a couple of sides:
(i) - Is it wise for a fellow Star Alliance member to take on direct competiiton, as US Airways have been operating CLT-LGW for years?
(ii) - Is the market big enough for two A330's operating daily between Charlotte and London?
(iii) - Would US Airways allow codeshare access for onwards connections from CLT?
(iv) - BMI would also be going in direct competion to Lufthansa as well, as passengers from the CLT area already have access to numerous onward European connections through MUC and FRA. (BMI cannot match the number or European destinations compared to LH)
(v) - Another way of lookng at this is that US Airways may surrender their LGW-CLT service and allow BMI the rights to operate the flight. This would allow US Airways to free up a much needed A330 to fly another long haul route to Europe (Maybe PHX-FRA?).
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31119 posts, RR: 74 Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5709 times:
They are not launching Charlotte-Heathrow. When Open Skies details were first released, a bmi official was quoted as saying they could now look at flying to some new US cities, and Charlotte was randomly mentioned. But that's it - it was randomly mentioned - most likely because it is a Star hub. BMI isn't coming to Charlotte.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5585 times:
Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter): Another way of lookng at this is that US Airways may surrender their LGW-CLT service and allow BMI the rights to operate the flight. This would allow US Airways to free up a much needed A330 to fly another long haul route to Europe (Maybe PHX-FRA?).
Even if US would do such a move, an A333 would have problems operating PHX-FRA due to hot and somewhat high PHX.
Vega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4081 times:
Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 13): CLT-LGW is one of their most profitable routes - I doubt they'd want to give it up, even to a fellow Star member.
Well that's only because there is no competition to London. A ? has to be, would US acquire an (expensive) LHR slot for this route and also one for PHL (a given) and most probably PHX, or would they work a deal with BMI for a slot in favor of a code share AND would BMI accept that as a fair trade or decide to do the route themselves essentially reducing the viability of the US CLT-LGW route.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4020 times:
Quoting Vega (Reply 12): US's 333 are the earliest version of the aircraft with underpowered P&W engines.
That's curious, because all of US's 9 A333s are HGW -323X models, not the earlier built -321s and -322s. However, this doesn't change the fact that the A333 will have performance issues in PHX, mostly because of the hot weather.
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7348 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3905 times:
BMI will operate to the BIG East coast northern cities first, then Chicago and California. The South is owned by Atlanta & BA also fies from London to CLT. US will continue the CLT-LGW flight, until two or three PHL to LHR flights exist.
BA 3x BOS-LHR (1 in the morning, 2 at night0
VS 1x BOS-LHR
AA 1x BOS-LHR
Might be a bad decision.
Heck, people are saying that BMI will definitely serve JFK... Many of us on here, yours truely included, think that is a very unwise decision. BA, AA, and VS, pretty much have that route served to the point of saturation. Having another airline to go in there to fly JFK-LHR would be way too much. BA, I believe has 7 daily flights on that route. How many do AA and VS have. (I actually can't remember if VS flies into JFK from LHR. I know they serve EWR.)
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Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2993 times:
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 9): Only in July-August is it really hot and PHX is 1117 ft above sea level.
1117ft with those temps can make your density altitudes WELL into the 5000+' range.
For example today at MGW with a similar elevation the high was 81 (which is cold by PHX summer standards) and the DA was dabbling at 3000'. PHX is high and hot enough that together they're a pretty wicked combination on hot days.