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Why NWA Have So Fews 747s Out Of Msp?  
User currently offlineFKHUL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Why does Northwest have so few 747 flights from MSP. On certain days they only have 1 flight. Also, why are there all 747-200s???

Any Info???

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User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

The reason why is that NW's overall flow of traffic in and out of the MSP hub is not enough to fill up a 747. Now a days UAL is the only airline that has a traffic flow in and out of its hubs to fill 747s, DL knows it can't do it out of ATL, AA knows it can't support it out of DFW, it is amazing overall that NW does generate the traffic required to fill the 747 on its transpacific routes but out of MSP there is no need for it.

User currently offlineEzra From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 470 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

In a related question, how is UAL's route structure such that traffic flow in and out of its hubs supports 747 ops? Is this primarily due to UAL's large presence in Asia? Or perhaps caused by the geographical exegencies of its hub markets? If the latter is true, why do ORD and SFO (and DTW, for that matter) support 747s, and ATL does not?

Thank you.

Ezra.


User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1429 times:

MSP is not a major continental hub, tho it is a local hub for N. American routes.

Regards  ,
R Panda


User currently offlineNWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Deltaflyertoo:
"..it is amazing overall that NW does generate the traffic required to fill the 747 on its transpacific routes but out of MSP there is no need for it."

Yeah, right...that's why NW flies routes like JFK-NRT, DTW-NGO, and believe it or not, MSP-NRT at extremely high load factors. This is gonna sound INCREDIBLE (hint of sarcasm) to you, but NW is going double daily MSP-NRT in April, with 747-200s. Over 2,000,000 people a month fly Northwest's international routes to countries in the Pacific.

I might agree with you that MSP alone cannot sustain NRT service, but you're leaving out connections at MSP from people all over the Upper Midwest that want to go to Asia. Many of NW's passengers on MSP-NRT come from cities like Madison, Milwaukee, Omaha, and Des Moines, WorldPerks members that choose to connect in MSP because it's MUCH more convenient than O'Hare.

And the last part of your statement "DL knows it can't do it out of ATL, AA knows it can't support it out of DFW" regarding 747 service, of course AA and DL can't fly 747s out of their hubs to Japan, or anywhere else for that matter, because they don't own them...

One more thing that I might add...NW's presence in Asia definitely helps them fill aircraft in both directions. WorldPerks was voted "Best Frequent Flyer Program" by the readers of Time in Asia, and NW is a frequent choice by Asian travel organizations like JTB for tours and trips to places like Hawaii.


NWA Man



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User currently offlineNwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

Northwest definatley can support 747s out of DTW and MSP.

Especially DTW with service nonstop 747-400 to Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Shanghai, and Beijing


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