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Arik Air Behind B777/787 Order  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4160 posts, RR: 36
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

Taken from Flight Global:

Quote:
Arik is also investing in new widebody aircraft. In January Arik signed a contract with Boeing for three 787s, two 777-200ERs and two 777-200LRs. The order will be formally announced later this week in Seattle in conjunction with the delivery of its first two 737-700s.

McTighe says the 787s will be used primarily for London, the 777-200ERs for a Houston service and the 777-200LRs for a possible Los Angeles service. All four 777s are now slated for delivery in 2011, with the 787s to follow in 2014.



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McTighe says Arik also seeks to launch flights to Houston before the end of this year using a wet-leased A340-500 and flights to the Middle East and South Africa in 2008 with a second wet-leased A330-200.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...into-nigerias-largest-carrier.html

I fear a bit that they are over-expanding at this point (more about their fleet plans in the article) and tend to invest a bit too much into new frames 4-7 years away from delivery at a time when they should be focussing more on getting their operation working in full swing.


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

And just where are they getting an A345 from?????

User currently offlinePEET7G From Hungary, joined Jan 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5232 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
And just where are they getting an A345 from?????

What is the status of the AC 345s? Could be that transferring those 2 345s was a part of the deal with Boeing?



Peet7G
User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3392 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

777-200ER and 777-200LR? Dah hell?

sure that isn't 2 777-300ER and 2 777-200ER since they are the same family?


User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 3):
sure that isn't 2 777-300ER and 2 777-200ER since they are the same family?

Should be 2 772LR, 2 773ER and 3 789 according to my information.

[Edited 2007-04-24 10:40:48]

User currently offlineJMO-777 From Germany, joined Apr 2002, 501 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4661 times:

Hi!

A nice new 777 operator. But we have to wait some more years to see them flying (2011).

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 3):
sure that isn't 2 777-300ER and 2 777-200ER since they are the same family?

The same family?? just for having the "ER"? I think that these two planes are not so alike, by the fact the 77W carries more pax. But it depends on one's view!
772, 77E, 77L, 77F, 773 and 77W are all in the same family - the Triple7-Family  Wink

Quoting ENU (Reply 4):
Should be 2 772LR, 2 773ER and 3 789 according to my information.

But the Flight Int'l. article says that the order will be for two 77Es and two 77Ls.
I also doubt a 77W order for such a "small" new airline, but "never say never".

GreetZ,
Jan



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
I fear a bit that they are over-expanding at this point (more about their fleet plans in the article) and tend to invest a bit too much into new frames 4-7 years away from delivery at a time when they should be focussing more on getting their operation working in full swing.

Come May 29, when a new government is sworn in, you can expect the people behind Arik Air to come under scrutiny for financial crimes and corruption. There is a very serious allegation that the money used to set up and capitalize Arik (allegedly $5bn) were stolen from the coffers of Rivers State, Nigeria. These are still rumors until proven otherwise in the Nigerian courts.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
And just where are they getting an A345 from?????

It's going to be wet-leased from an a yet undisclosed carrier. Probably a very, very expensive option.



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User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3392 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

Quoting JMO-777 (Reply 5):
The same family?? just for having the "ER"? I think that these two planes are not so alike, by the fact the 77W carries more pax. But it depends on one's view!
772, 77E, 77L, 77F, 773 and 77W are all in the same family - the Triple7-Family

Well they are not true generations but some are "fraternal twins" instead of just generic siblings
777-200A is all alone
777-200ER and 777-300 are "twins"
777-200LR and 777-300ER are "twins"

The changes between the 777-200ER and 777-200LR are enough that unless you NEED the extra range, it makes no sense to order the 777-200LR if you already operate the 777-200ER. Certainly though it makes even less than 0 sense to order 777-200ER and 777-200LR at the same time given the differences. The initial cost difference is so minor compared to everything else that any sane airline getting their first 777 and needing even a single 777-200LR would simply buy all 777-200LR and 777-300ER... and no 777-200ER.


User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

Quoting ENU (Reply 4):
Should be 2 772LR, 2 773ER and 3 789 according to my information.



Quote:
SEATTLE, April 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA - News) and Arik Air today announced an order for three 787-9s, two 777-200 LRs (Longer Range) and two 777-300ERs (Extended Range) at the delivery ceremony for two new 737-700s that will soon begin operations from the airline's home base in Lagos, Nigeria. The list-price value of the new order is approximately $1.5 billion. The airplanes were previously listed as unidentified on Boeing's Orders & Deliveries website.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070426/s....v=44

Source: Arik Air Announce 777NGs And 787s (by Shenzhen Apr 26 2007 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinePEET7G From Hungary, joined Jan 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 3897 times:

I think these will be one of the best looking T7s in the air  Wink


Peet7G
User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 3891 times:

I couldn't agree more!


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