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Convair 580 In Fiji  
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Just got my flight details for my forthcoming Fiji Trip (alas, work I'm afraid) and I'm booked on an Air Fiji Convair 580 for the SVU-NAN return leg.

Anybody here flown one of these beasts either in Fiji or elsewhere?

[Edited 2007-04-26 11:24:56]

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User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1759 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

I think it is one of the Air Chathams plane, built in the 50's. That probably tells you enough. Don't expect too much.

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

NZ747 has. I remember hearing about it when he got back from Fiji in the December holidays. I'm sure he'd shed some light if you PM him  Wink

User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

Quoting Cchan (Reply 1):
I think it is one of the Air Chathams plane, built in the 50's. That probably tells you enough. Don't expect too much.

Don't know too much about the fun of flying in a superb vintage prop do you?

I, and many others, would give their eye teeth and more for a chance of a ride in such a superb historic aircraft


User currently offlineCurmudgeon From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 695 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

What do you want to know about the airplane? It's been years and years, but I still remember some things.


Jets are for kids
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

Quoting Philb (Reply 3):
Don't know too much about the fun of flying in a superb vintage prop do you?

True, it will be newer than the DC3 I flew in last year in AKL though.......DC3 trip was ace!!!

Quoting Curmudgeon (Reply 4):
What do you want to know about the airplane?

Just some up to date stuff really about the whole experience really, anyone done that SVU-NAN run in one?

Had a hilarious anecdote or two about the Twin Otters they use on this run!!


User currently offlineCurmudgeon From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 695 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Oh, I can't comment on that particular aircraft or the route. It is a good, solid airplane though. I used to enjoy flying them, and they made me the deaf, gray haired person that I am today.


Jets are for kids
User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2529 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2468 times:
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Get a window at the very aft end. That will provide you a good view---clear of most of the wing----and will get you away from that cyclic prop-beat.Even with synchronization there is still a nearly constant cycle of beat and vibration sometimes (comically) flowing from side to side seemingly riding on the wing-box structure between each engine!
You can always walk forward to take some photos from a front window for some "prop-shots"-----and leave the suffering to someone else!

Hope you have a great adventure! bigthumbsup 



"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough!"
User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 2):
NZ747 has. I remember hearing about it when he got back from Fiji in the December holidays. I'm sure he'd shed some light

Yep, went on it in January from Suva to Nadi. The crew were Air Chathams crew except the local Air Fiji flight attendant.

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 5):
Had a hilarious anecdote or two about the Twin Otters they use on this run!!

Flown all types SUV to NAN route, and the best to date was Air Pacific's 737-800, about a 15 min flight. The ATR42-500's (crewed by mount cook crew) are very nice also. It's a shame you didn't book Pacific Sun (Air Pacific). Fares are almost half the price. I try to avoid Air Fiji if I can. Don't fly the Harbin, it will scare the shit out of you. Flights are always delayed, and everytime my ticket (which I pick up at Nadi Airport) seems to have been misplaced...)

Had many interesting times on that route. Blood smeared on the windscreen ( I hope from a bird), Engine failure on approach to Nadi. Fuel leaking from wing (noticed by pax just prior to our take off), being almost booked on their fatal flight that crashed killing all in 1999, pax screaming because of the turbulence from the high volcanic terrain, stoned looking pilots, cockroaches all over the cabin..im sure theres more.

Have fun  

[Edited 2007-04-26 13:40:32]

User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 7):
Get a window at the very aft end

That is my usual place on any flight so all good.

Quoting NZ747 (Reply 8):
Had many interesting times on that route. Blood smeared on the windscreen ( I hope from a bird), Engine failure on approach to Nadi. Fuel leaking from wing (noticed by pax just prior to our take off), being almost booked on their fatal flight that crashed killing all in 1999, pax screaming because of the turbulence from the high volcanic terrain, stoned looking pilots, cockroaches all over the cabin..im sure theres more.

Gee thanks.....I think  Wink

Why do you avoid Air Fiji....something I should know or is it just delays, missing ticket issues??


User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3100 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

Courtesy: FlightLevel350

Two Short Convair 580 Videos:

Convair 580 - Air Chathams --- From The Cockpit

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra..._Chathams_Aviation_Video-2945.html

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Convair 580 - Kelowna Flightcraft Air Charter

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra...r_Charter_Aviation_Video-2435.html

[Edited 2007-04-26 21:47:35]

User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Thread starter):
Air Fiji Convair 580 for the SVU-NAN return leg.

Is that Suva-Nadi, or Savusavu-Nadi? SUV, or SVU? Just wondering. I flew NAN-SVU-NAN myself back in '99 on the twin otters, but I had no idea there were CV580s operating it now! The twin otters were an experience themselves. We flew Air Fiji in one direction and Sunflower Airlines (now Sun Air) in the other. I don't remember much of the return flight because I was sick as a dog from something I'd eaten, but the outbound was loads of fun because we were flying directly towards a rather ominous looking bank of clouds. The landing strip in SVU was also interesting--just a strip of asphalt, really. The terminal was more of a shack than anything else. The pilots were cheerful Ozzies.
Anyway, I'm sure you'll tell us all about it. Big grin



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Here are some shots, mate.



From: http://iar-ira.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/flight/flight_8a_e.html



From: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/tonywhee...ca/days_311_south_africa_to_benin/



From: http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/photos.asp?articleID=3197&spid=3198

Looks like fun. Nice and roomy too.  Wink


User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Plenty comfortable. A lot of vibration but it is a pleasant vibration. Much deeper than that of modern turboprops. The last row of seats are the best, followed by the second to last. As you go forward of these rows you lose more and more visibility outside. I used to fly on them often out of PIT in the seventies with AL.

User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

The 580 is an excellant plane....I would fly it anyday....The ys-11 is still my favorite


i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Quoting LH459 (Reply 11):
SUV, or SVU?

SVU.

Flight might get changed to an Air pacific ATR due to logistical issues in country.

You'll get the full TR regardless  Smile


User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 9):
Gee thanks.....I think

Why do you avoid Air Fiji....something I should know or is it just delays, missing ticket issues??

Haha, they're ok, just standards are a bit low. The Convair is maintained in New Zealand and crewed by kiwi's, so you'll be sweet. Like I said above, just try and avoid the Harbin. The Otter isn't so bad. I used to fly with Air Fiji on about 6-10 flights a year, but now only 2 to 4 times. So I guess I've had too many accounts of bad flights and service. Only thing I like about them is that one of their staff at Nadi seems to always know my last name, before he searches for the ticket that never got sent to them by head office...weird haha

But don't worry, you'll have an experience an a half. I look forward to your entertaining trip report about it  Wink Take pics!

Quoting LH459 (Reply 11):
I had no idea there were CV580s operating it now!

The Convair is on a wet lease. It replaces an Embraer Brasilia which got taken back by the lessor because of unpaid leasing fees. The company won't be around for much longer I dont think.

NZ747


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