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Cathay Pacific New F And J Seats (With Photos)  
User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 829 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 36627 times:

Hot from CX's staff, the NEW F and J seats!!!

First Class

Big version: Width: 500 Height: 375 File size: 66kb

Big version: Width: 500 Height: 375 File size: 61kb



Business Class
Big version: Width: 500 Height: 375 File size: 71kb

Big version: Width: 375 Height: 500 File size: 64kb


First Class Lavatory
Big version: Width: 375 Height: 500 File size: 45kb



Hong Kong is not China. Not better or worse, just different.
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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1984 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 36618 times:

WOW thats really nice.... I really like the loo... you could really join the MHC in style in there.


Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 36528 times:

Nice, but I don't know if I like the old brown fake wood and brown/grey seats in F class- its VERY 70s!

And the green and blue mixed with Grey is not appealing to the eye either....

Aesthetically It's not very well designed - unlike some of the newer cabins with cool colours, funky lighting etc! (Virgin, SQ, etc)


User currently offlineTransair737 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 36376 times:

I agreee not aesthestically pleaseing at all but probably comfortable!

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 36299 times:

Fabulous loo, but I preferred Cathay's old First Class product.

This one looks like an old IBM office from 1967.

All its missing is a typist named Midge and a computer large enough to fill Zone B of that 747.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21500 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 36218 times:

The F just looks like QF with more cramped foot space. The new LCD is nice.

I still prefer the AA flagship suite. They need to update the IFE, but otherwise, the seat has more space than most other carriers.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineCarlcowkau From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2005, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 35837 times:

oh CX has finally made its F to the what I call it "domino style", other than the more amazing SQ
The first impression is that the overall space is less then the old F (because of the hidden leg room)

Couples in J class can no longer sit together

but anyway I'm looking forward to be in it



Looking forward to being in CX 747ADV and A388.....
User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1572 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 35656 times:

Business seats are perfect if you are traveling alone, don't want to interact with anybody, hate looking out a window and don't want to be reminded that you are on an airplane. Otherwise, it's pretty awful I think. Maybe they could just create a bunch of business sized shoe boxes and just stack the business passengers in and unstack them upon landing.

I think I'll pass on this configuration. I like being on an airplane and seeing the plane I'm riding in.


User currently offlineSeJoWa From United States of America, joined May 2006, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 35484 times:

Very interesting to see how aeroplanes were appointed back in the 19th century! The screens must be a retrofit to the exhibit, though?

Thank goodness our modern designs have evolved since then. If we could only get our architects to go back in time...

Seriously, what is it with these bland and medicinal hues? A little bit of color goes a long way.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 35450 times:
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Cathay will be the first airline to put the"Virgin Atalantic" Business product along a First Class suite on the same plane. Virgin, Air Canada, Air New Zealand and Delta all offer the same BIZ Class seat with no First Class. I wonder if Cathay had to remove a few perks. ? I would still love to fly them to HKG.

User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 35441 times:

hmm those laptops seem to be sitting nicely!! Are they coming with the seats???

Also those kinda biz class seats look very cramped and not very much room once in them.. Looks like you just have a seat with big walls around you!!

Love to toilet tho... I have always wondered why dont more airlines have windows in toilets. I mean its not like someone is going to see you!!


User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 35431 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 7):
Business seats are perfect if you are traveling alone, don't want to interact with anybody, hate looking out a window and don't want to be reminded that you are on an airplane

Unfortunately for enthusiasts, this is the majority market. They are not catering to people like us!


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 35417 times:

These new business class seats are really not for far people are they? I mean obesely fat  Smile They can never fit in there....


Coffee - Tea or Me?
User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5516 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 35334 times:

First class looks pretty nice and inviting. The bathroom in first class is also pretty sweet. Those business class seats suck! I wouldn't want to buy a business class seat to be stuck in one of those sideways 'stalls' for several hours. Business class looks pretty cheap...

User currently offlineAvianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 35299 times:

If I ever have another opportunity to fly CX Business Class again and am seated in one of those green or blue monstrosities shown above, I will walk off the plane. The width of the seat is unnacceptable, the formica-wood looks cheesy, and what in the world are you supposed to look at if you do not have a window seat - two plastic-covered shoulder-high panels?

I hereby declare this as the great "Cathay Pacific Bob-Sled-Seat Fiasco".


Sorry, it just cannot compare to this:

http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...new/businessclass/seatfeatures.jsp

[Edited 2007-04-27 15:17:17]


In Memory of HK-1402 "Sucre" & HK-1410 "Bolivar"
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 35271 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 12):
These new business class seats are really not for far people are they? I mean obesely fat They can never fit in there....

They are wider than you think. I'm not a tiny guy and I fit into the Virgin suites just fine with room to spare. Now some 500 Lb. lardass won't fit but large folks will be ok. Hopefully they have improved the bed comfort because I was not a fan of the hardness the 1st gen VS seats had. I can honestly say they were some of the worst nights sleep I have ever had.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 4):
This one looks like an old IBM office from 1967.

I'll grant you that on the F cabin. The J cabin looks like my AT&T office that was built in the late 80s. There are reasons why I never go to the office.  Wink

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 10):
Looks like you just have a seat with big walls around you!!

That was my other complaint about the VS suites. The walls were just a bit too high. While sitting upit was fine when you went to lie down the airflow disappears and it gets stuffy in there. I could be wrong but I swear the walls are lower on the suites that Delta and Air Canada are putting in.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 35123 times:

Could do without the cheap formica but you'd better get used to that kind of biz seating. Already in use with VS, NZ, AC, 9W and DL will soon have them.

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3874 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 35111 times:

Any photos of the new Y class seats? They're certainly rather different from current ones!

User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2431 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 35094 times:

What about seat maps? I've heard different things on how the F seats are configured.


Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin'!
User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 35056 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 17):
Any photos of the new Y class seats? They're certainly rather different from current ones!

The new Y seats haven't been fitted yet. The next 747 to be reconfigured will have them though.


User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1572 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 35017 times:

I have to say -- not that I've ever been in such an establishment (ahem) -- but the business seats look a bit like those booths in adult bookstores. Where's the slot for the quarters?

Oh those nasty businessmen!


User currently offlineAvianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 35001 times:

More from the source here:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...NTL/whatonboard/previewthenewseats



In Memory of HK-1402 "Sucre" & HK-1410 "Bolivar"
User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 34934 times:

Well, well, well.....if being sandwiched sideways in that tight prison cell between two high walls staring across the aisle at the shoes or stinkin' feet of the guy on the opposite side and having to twist one's neck muscles to the point of injury to get a decent outside view thru the window is what CX calls their "new" Biz Class, then I'd gladly give a pass.

Suddenly, the "old fashioned" biz class seats at CX (what the heck, even at other airlines) feels so much more inviting.

'949
HKG


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 34885 times:
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I saw other First and Business Class that looks better...

On May 7, I will fly from LHR to HKG in a Boeing 747-400. Any chance to fly in a refurbished "F" and "J" class plane? When will CX finish the total refurbishment of it's fleet.

If I fly with a refurbished one, I will try to explain in a trip report....

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3218 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 34378 times:

What aircraft type are these fitted in pls?
Thanks



you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
25 Post contains images XJETFlyer : Cathay Pacific "We are among the first airlines to have put rice cookers, toasters and skillets on board*, enabling our flight attendants to prepare f
26 Post contains images Den346 : The new F and J seating does look quite drab. It still blows any US carrier out of the water though! The new Y product though looks pretty nice for Y.
27 Post contains images Ardian : It looks nice and nothing more than that unfortunately. After seeing the new F-class from Jet Airways, it's hard for me to be impressed by new infligh
28 Mindscape : Agree... are business travellers are now more considered as sardines in a better outfit with ties and suits ? Anyway, for those who are suffering cla
29 Post contains images LoungeLover : Horrible business class: bad choice of colors, cramped. I just don't like that hering bone seating - or whatever the kids call them these days. How ve
30 Ikramerica : A naive statement from someone who's never actually flown international F on AA or UA I suppose. Other than the large IFE screen (it's a new retrofit
31 Francoflier : Most probably not. It's only the one 747-400 so far... (B-HKT, former SQ) It's due to start operating CX's routes early may, but on regional sectors
32 Toptravel : I like the window in the john. EK's 340-500's have one in the F/C john, love it but amazing how many people pull the shade.
33 PC12Fan : OK Superman, stop with the peeping tom bit at FL. Besides, how the heck do you know this?
34 RoyalAtlantis : " target=_blank>http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...s.jsp I have to agree with you there! I would have assumed that CX wanted to meet SQ in their p
35 Wowpeter : " target=_blank>http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...s.jsp I think the singaporeair pictures is very misleading... I have seen other pictures (can't
36 Post contains links and images Avianca707359B : While Singapore might be "maximizing" their space with trick angles and fisheye lenses in order to make the seat pitch appear larger, a wide seat is
37 1stfl94 : Their first 77W I think is being delivered in September
38 Den346 : umm... i actually have flown in UA's international first suite multiple times thank you very much! it is nice and comfortable but it is starting to s
39 Georgebush : Your right Den! Most any foreign airliner's first product blows UA and especially AA out of the water. (to Ikramerica, i also have flow international
40 CuriousFlyer : Agreed, I have not had a chance to fly in the herringbone config, but I am not impatient at all! And those colors, yuck!
41 A340600 : Not so great, though the toilet is brilliant! On the subject of SQ seats, is it me or is there not enough to distinguish F and J?
42 MBMBOS : Just one little observation... ...sometimes the best colors/fabrics to sit in are not necessarily the most photogenic. Likewise the impression of narr
43 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Well, I happen to like the first class layout (from the little I see). Business class doesn't look that great. The diagonal layout is something which
44 Post contains images Walter747 : Man thats really nice. If only i had the money
45 The Coachman : The white balance on those photos needs adjusting - the photos are actually quite poor - with apologies to the one who took them. It looks like they w
46 NZ107 : Looks great. Wonder if I'll ever be able to fly on it..
47 KFly : Looking at CX new First Class seat. It seems that the passenger will also be sleeping diagonally. (See position of the foot stool). Legs will be wedg
48 Aussieindc : while everyone's having a pissing contest, did anyone else find it interesting to see the 3 point belt in both the J and Y class pictures? They mentio
49 MarkHKG : It's required because of the potential for a serious head-strike if the belt is not installed. The new J-Class is unusually slanted so your head coul
50 Alaskaqantas : When I first saw the digital photos of the First class seats I had hoped that the colours were only that dull gray colour (if you can call it a colour
51 CX flyboy : Everyone is moaning about the colours but if you compare to pics of the current longhaul business class you will see that the colour scheme has hardly
52 The Coachman : Some people need a reality check on this forum....honestly... You can't judge room based on windows...particularly if you're seated at an angle and al
53 767noa : I cannot believe any airline would approve these seats they look like crap they look of a economy product. The colors look horrible, the seats look ve
54 Post contains images Sllevin : I have to agree that the seats look unappealing. Even with the rounded out space for one's right shoulder, the left side seems like it lacks room. Es
55 Post contains links and images Oxygen : I really think people shouldn't judge CX's new seat based on those low quality camera phone photos. The resolution is low, and the colors are off. Mor
56 Peh : Apart from the awful colour-scheme, the first class 'suite' looks really pokey and awkwardly laid out. I'm a big fan of Cathay so this is a big disapo
57 Post contains images MarkHKG : Well said. I won't care to judge these seats until the first pax on board B-HKT report back to airlines.net.
58 CXtra : edit: we really can't judge the new product based on those thread-starter pix. quality is too low as Oxygen's photos have demonstrated. Must reserve c
59 Post contains images PC12Fan : Although I give a big thumbs up to the F product, i have to admit, I don't like the appearance of the new J. It's like a flying ultra small cubicle. B
60 Post contains images The Coachman : Sit on the right hand side of the aircraft if you're left handed and sit on the left hand side of the aircraft if you're right handed. Simple. That f
61 Vasu : Yes, without a doubt!
62 CX flyboy : Thats airliners.net!! Now watch as someone deletes this post.
63 DaHawk : The colour co-ordination in Business is horrible. Is it just me or it appears to have too much plastic & the seating material looks like foam? Looks l
64 Ktachiya : The biggest question that I have with this is........ Well why do airlines nowadays design their C class product at roughly a 30 degree angle? Is this
65 CX flyboy : I said it before and I will say it again....the colour scheme is the same as the current very popular business class.
66 DaHawk : Yes it is.. But appears more bold now with the new private screens/additional feautures in the cabin seating. Doesnt look quite as nice now. But it c
67 MarkHKG : The new CX business class product does go completely lie-flat. This differs from their older product which was angled lie-flat. This particular herri
68 Sllevin : Or just don't fly CX, which I suppose would be an even simpler solution now that JL is on oneworld. I've seen that the new config has been a few time
69 CX flyboy : The new config has not yet done it's first revenue flight yet, so whever you are seeing that it has done 451 must have been from an old schedule wher
70 Abrelosojos : Now more than ever, I am convinced that Jet Airways (9W) has the best inflight First Class suite in the world. Cheers, A.
71 DaHawk : Have you checked out Emirates First Class suites on their 345's? Much more luxurious then 9W's. Appears 9W got there idea from EK's suites?
72 Abrelosojos : = I have. I don't know how you can think that EK's is much more luxurious given its pretty much the same suite ... only 9W's bed is LONGER than EK...
73 Post contains images DaHawk : Abrelosojos, Only reason I mentioned it. Because Ive flown in the EK first suites and comparing to what I read and saw on 9W. I thought EK was nicer.
74 Post contains images Abrelosojos : = I have flown EK-F several times as well ... AND, hopefully get to taste 9W soon (from what I have seen and heard from industry friends, its MUCH cl
75 Pieinthesky : How strange. I don't 'judge' anything until I've actually tried and tested it myself. The thought of relying on a report from this website to pass ju
76 Post contains images MarkHKG : There's plenty of judgment going on right now, on the basis of 5 photos.
77 FURUREFA : I'm sorry but AA's flagship suite is better than most international airlines' F class (including some of the "top" airlines, such as BA). The "soft p
78 UAL777UK : F looks great but J looks tight and very impersonal!
79 EK773 : Just one point to remember, if anyone here gets to experience the new CX product (or any other new airline seats for that matter) and you are not sati
80 Post contains links SeJoWa : I made some unflattering remarks concerning the new cabin at the thread's outset, and since this is a forum for discussion, it's certainly good form t
81 Zeke : From the CX intranet "Our most important flight of the week took off this morning, with B-HKT – the first aircraft to be fitted with our new long-ha
82 GlobalATL : Attention All Airlines: Attention All Airlines -- Please stop flying at once! Sell every piece of airplane because NOBODY on planet earth likes any o
83 CX flyboy : Fortunately the average airliners.netter is not the target market for the F and J class cabins.
84 Lp0815 : Flying CX's J-Class product HKG-LAX in August. Chances that it will be in the new configuration?
85 Wowpeter : For the forward facing First Class & Economy Class (Y not shown but see CX website), it is an upcoming FAA requirements that will require 3 points se
86 GuyBetsy1 : Nil unfortunately. The transpacific routes will see the new products on 77Ws later in the year with NY getting them first. The 747s will be deployed
87 Wowpeter : That is so true!!! Also to add.. I personally thinks the color scheme is fine in both First and Business Class... saw both of the seat in person in C
88 Post contains images Sllevin : Does that make me above or below average? I'm still hoping that the new config will fly CX451 (TPE-HKG) on 17 June but based on the current patterns
89 Post contains images CX flyboy : As your profile states, you are a First Class member and well appreciated on our flights!
90 ClipperHK : The new Cathay Pacific flat-bed is out, and I just flew on it yesterday. It was horrible. If you think the old business class seat was awkward, this o
91 Avianca707359B : I guess a picture IS worth a thousand words! CX is going to have to redesign this nonsense within a year.
92 Kanebear : Not the hard product. Having flown CX, BA, SR, LA, KE, UA and both AA Atlantic and Pacific configs in F thus far, my favorite hard product is still t
93 FlyTUITravel : Its nothing like the VS seat, nor AC / 9W and soon DL. Well I have to say I really think they could've done better! flyTUITravel.
94 ClipperHK : For a frequent CX flyer I'm curious how you come to the conclusion that you can't avoid these seats. The regional fleet isn't getting these seats. Th
95 Gemini573 : Well, your chances of avoiding the new J class seats in the future will be slim and none. I wish AA would have a better new J class product, but they
96 Willyj : Someone's either overly dramatic, or not so bright...
97 Gemini573 : ClipperHK, sorry. I just saw your mini review of the J seat. I'll find out how the seats are later in October when they introduce the 773s on some of
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