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Kids To Fly For Free On Lufthansa  
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7445 times:

Kids between 0 and 11 years will fly for 0 € nett , All charges included !

Great offer by LH !

http://konzern.lufthansa.com/de/html...n/app/show/de/2007/04/1375/HOM&s=0

Konstantin

[Edited 2007-04-27 12:02:00]

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User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7268 times:

Oh no! This is really bad news!!! I'm waiting for an airline to ban kids & babies, not encourage more of the little blighters....!! Is this the final nail in the coffin of civilised travel as we used to know it??!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!  gnasher 


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User currently offlineAY104 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 505 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7106 times:

thanks for the warning! Just a real good reason for me to avoid them. I am not an FF and don't travel often, but for people who travel on business, this is not good news: more disruption onboard from 90% of the children who continue to be totally undisciplined and unsupervised by their parents.
On each flight this past year that I have been on, I have been the victim of undisciplined and unruly children. While I realize that there is virtually nothing I can do about it, apart from silent tolerance on my part, it doesn't warm my heart to think that the percentage of children onboard constantly grows higher.
cheers,
AY104



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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7067 times:

I just remember my 3 hour flight BSL to SAW on easyJet with lots of kids...they hanged on the overhead bins, climbed over seats with no respect of other people sitting there, were running through the cabin and began to scream like crazy during the rest of the flight.

I have nothing against kids at all...but the less kids onboard the more comfortable it is for the others...

[Edited 2007-04-27 16:10:05]


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User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6877 times:

Es ist auf Deutsch und ich kann es nicht lesen  Sad
Since the article is in german and my german is not that good....I am guessing this is only for EU flights only???



ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6854 times:

Taxes are not included they have to be payed extra:

Quote:
Das Kindersommer-Ticket ist um 100 Prozent ermäßigt, es fallen lediglich die mit dem jeweiligen Flug verbundenen Steuern, Gebühren und die Ticket Service Charge an.


User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6854 times:

Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 4):
Es ist auf Deutsch und ich kann es nicht lesen

Ja, es ist auf Deutsch und ich brauch es auf English.

Schade, nicht?


User currently offlineXJETFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6824 times:

Yikes! I'm never silent with unruly children. My wife and I have no problem confronting the parents and the children if need be. I refuse to sit on a flight with out of control kids. A while back there was a family kicked off an airline before it even took off in Florida. The kids would not get in their seats and behave. The parents were upset and it was on every news channel. My wife said i'm flying them for now on. Problem was the airliner does not handle Houston.

User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6811 times:

I guess LH is trying to increase the number of families who fly with them. Start off the Loyalty when their young  Wink
I think that most families now fly AB or TUIfly, and of course FR for vacation in Europe anyways.

Quoting XJETFlyer (Reply 7):
Problem was the airliner does not handle Houston.

Which airline is that?



"None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsly believe they are free" -Goethe
User currently offlineMike89406 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1467 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6780 times:

To all you guys I understand you're pain about kids, and one thing I dont like is not being able enoy the quiet. however as a father myself one thing I always taught my children is to be on they're best behavior in public places. So in short my daughter for example will never start crying or acting up just because of no reason.

The only reason I can think thats acceptable for children to cry is infants that are experiancing pressure changes, and uncontrollable situations. On my last flight from SAN-OAK, OAK-RNO my 7 yr old daughter was great. I gave her the window seat she, and she enjoyed the whole flight not one peep out of her.

But as parents I think you do you're part the best that you can. So if you're child kicks the seat in front screams for no reason, wont stay seated during takeoff etc.. then theres no excuse and its at the airlines discretion what to do. Its just a shame other parents that dont discipline have built a reputation for the ones that do discipline they're kids.

I do know there are some parents that do discipline however the child may not have been feeling good, or other unforseen events causing them to cry.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6707 times:

Quoting ZRH (Reply 5):
Taxes are not included they have to be payed extra:

In other words, nothing special at all.

E-fares are somerhing like EUR 10-30+++++ these days on LH, big deal if they drop the EUR 2 IN90 or EUR 14 CH fare itself...



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6622 times:

Would this work for ORD-FRA for instance, or only within Europe? I read German only so-so, and couldn't discern the answer on my own (nor with automated translation software).

User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9054 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6602 times:
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Quoting Chase (Reply 11):
Would this work for ORD-FRA for instance, or only within Europe?

Its only within europe and a an adult has to be with them... And it is for free plus taxes  Wink so not 100% free  Wink

Cargo flying is much better  Wink

WILCO737 (MD11F)
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User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6536 times:

Quoting Mike89406 (Reply 9):
To all you guys I understand you're pain about kids, and one thing I dont like is not being able enoy the quiet. however as a father myself one thing I always taught my children is to be on they're best behavior in public places. So in short my daughter for example will never start crying or acting up just because of no reason.

The only reason I can think thats acceptable for children to cry is infants that are experiancing pressure changes, and uncontrollable situations. On my last flight from SAN-OAK, OAK-RNO my 7 yr old daughter was great. I gave her the window seat she, and she enjoyed the whole flight not one peep out of her.

But as parents I think you do you're part the best that you can. So if you're child kicks the seat in front screams for no reason, wont stay seated during takeoff etc.. then theres no excuse and its at the airlines discretion what to do. Its just a shame other parents that dont discipline have built a reputation for the ones that do discipline they're kids.

I do know there are some parents that do discipline however the child may not have been feeling good, or other unforseen events causing them to cry.

Very well said. As a father, I also totally agree with you.



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6421 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):
Which airline is that?

I believe it was Airtran.


User currently offlineXJETFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6280 times:

Quoting Mike89406 (Reply 9):
To all you guys I understand you're pain about kids, and one thing I dont like is not being able enoy the quiet. however as a father myself one thing I always taught my children is to be on they're best behavior in public places. So in short my daughter for example will never start crying or acting up just because of no reason.

The only reason I can think thats acceptable for children to cry is infants that are experiancing pressure changes, and uncontrollable situations. On my last flight from SAN-OAK, OAK-RNO my 7 yr old daughter was great. I gave her the window seat she, and she enjoyed the whole flight not one peep out of her.

But as parents I think you do you're part the best that you can. So if you're child kicks the seat in front screams for no reason, wont stay seated during takeoff etc.. then theres no excuse and its at the airlines discretion what to do. Its just a shame other parents that dont discipline have built a reputation for the ones that do discipline they're kids.

I do know there are some parents that do discipline however the child may not have been feeling good, or other unforseen events causing them to cry.

There is a huge difference between a child who is in discomfort, then a child who is running and screaming all over the plane! Parents must have control over their children. There is no excuse for children acting like monkeys on a 9 hour flight. I remember I had a flight from Houston to Los Angeles. I had isle seat. A mother and her daughter sat next to me. This little girl was about five years old. She was a great kid most of the flight. All of the sudden she started crying and screaming. I knew something was wrong with her, because my sinuses were killing me also. Her mom threaten to beat her black and blue. The mom apologized over and over to me. I told her there was no need and that her daughter was in discomfort. Luckily she had some children's Tylenol and the kid fell asleep after a 15 minute span. She explained to me how her husband would have taken their little girl to the lavatory and dropped her britches for an old fashion whipping. She said he had done this several times. I explained that it might be her sinuses or even her teeth.

Bottom line as a parent, you have to make every effort to handle your children. It sounds like your one of the few!


User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6262 times:

When i was going from MCO-PVD some kids were behind me. They kicked the seat the whole flight. The flight was a 7 A.M. flight, and we had to get up at 3 A.M. I wanted to sit behind them and kick the seat for 3 hours.


Hussel, Hussel, Husel, Grind, Grind, Grind
User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6210 times:

God, a thread about kids traveling for free and all I read is rant after rant about how much you all hate kids. I can only conclude you all had miserable childhoods!!! What a miserable bunch of spoiled air travelers you are. I have two kids and they travel great, cause no problems and really look forward to the flight, its exciting for them just as it was when I was their age. Lighten up  Smile Good for LH I say. For those that don't remember most airlines used to let kids fly half price at least and sometimes free, this is not a new concept. It would make me travel more simply because it now costs me less.

User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6169 times:

Quoting Jasond (Reply 17):
God, a thread about kids traveling for free and all I read is rant after rant about how much you all hate kids. I can only conclude you all had miserable childhoods!!! What a miserable bunch of spoiled air travelers you are. I have two kids and they travel great, cause no problems and really look forward to the flight, its exciting for them just as it was when I was their age. Lighten up Smile Good for LH I say. For those that don't remember most airlines used to let kids fly half price at least and sometimes free, this is not a new concept. It would make me travel more simply because it now costs me less.

Well i know it may seem like a rant, but not all kids are ignorant on flights. glad to hear yours are. At least there is some hope that some are, but most of these people are talking about ignorant kids who's parents don;t care what they do.



Hussel, Hussel, Husel, Grind, Grind, Grind
User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6140 times:

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 18):
Well i know it may seem like a rant, but not all kids are ignorant on flights. glad to hear yours are. At least there is some hope that some are, but most of these people are talking about ignorant kids who's parents don;t care what they do.

Some things to consider:

1) The vast majority of kids are normal, well behaved individuals, period;
2) Traveling is exciting, an adventure for them, they look forward to it and as a positive experience it should be encouraged, thats why I congratulate LH, well done.
3) Don't blame the kids, blame the parents, its their responsibility clearly;
4) Self respect and respect go hand in hand. If you don't respect yourself then how can you respect others. Without shoving it down their throats I teach my kids both those things in equal measure and it shows.


User currently offlineBA286 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

Next time you fly take a rope with you and start a lynching party on the plane, I'm sure lots of people would join in... just lynch any unruly kids.


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User currently offlineJj From Algeria, joined Jun 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5936 times:

Many people here seem to forget that some time ago they were kids as well!  Smile

Honestly, most of the kids I've had seating behind or besides me during a flight have behaved very well. They usually are excited and amused about flying, so they tend to be more alert to things, and being occupied, they don't disturb the others. But that's just my experience. Judging from other members, some kids seem pretty wild! But I'd blame the parents you know... it's their responsibility to look after their children and make sure they don't cause trouble.

Now, if the problem comes from babies crying due to discomfort, well there's nothing you can do, and you shouldn't be complaining about it. It's just the way it is. Same thing as when babies are teething, or when they have headaches, etc etc. It's the way in which they show they're not ok...

I think this is a great move for LH. Cause you know that together with that kid that flies for "free", comes an adult, who probably pays quite a lot to be on that plane. So, it's a great move to improve revenue and at the same time gain some passengers from the low-costs or leisure airlines.


User currently offlineDampfnudel From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5924 times:

One time someone was kicking the back of my seat, so I looked back expecting a child to be seated behind (I didn't pay attention to who was behind me when we boarded). Guess what, it was an adult. BTW, there was a child, maybe 8-10 next to him who I assume was his son. He never once hit the back of my mom's seat. Thankfully, the stare I gave him stopped him after he did it a third time.

User currently offlineWN230 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 341 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5811 times:

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 12):

Cargo flying is much better

So are you saying that unruly kids should be shipped to their destination?  bigthumbsup 


Just kidding.  Wink

WN230



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5755 times:

Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 4):
Since the article is in german and my german is not that good....I am guessing this is only for EU flights only???



Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 6):
Ja, es ist auf Deutsch und ich brauch es auf English.

Schade, nicht?

Nur fur Europa und Deutschland.

Mein Deutsch ist auch sehr schlecht.  Sad



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
25 LHFADUS : Kids on board aren't that much a pain in the butt as some other pax. Luckily most kids are fascinated with planes and travelling, you just need to kee
26 Post contains images LHStarAlliance : Yea I remember when I was a kid I always got so LH metal toy planes , I loved it ! But most of time time I looked out of the window
27 Post contains images Rivet42 : Ha, ha, ha, I just knew that a mild rant about kids would have indignant parents jumping up to defend the fine breeding of their offspring! Fair enoug
28 Hagas : Before we fly with our now six year old son we do some serious planning. We pack a bag with snacks and surprise books and activities for our son to pl
29 Walter747 : Yes thats the majority of kids. The other ones are the ones who climb all over the plane, aggravating passengers; while the parents just sit there an
30 PureKiwi : Sometimes the parents won't only not do anything about the bad behaviour of there kids but they will defend there kids. Once I was on a 12 hour red-ey
31 LHStarAlliance : haha but not all are like this , if you see people of a bit higher niveau , they don´t do that ...
32 Post contains images Agill : Well this should result in more kids flying on LH, so for you it's just to choose anything but LH and you should be set.
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