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CO New Routes To Caribbean From IAH?  
User currently offlineAusTexFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 25 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4773 times:

Anybody have any insight on the possibility of new CO routes to the Caribbean from IAH in the future? Maybe when some more of the new 737's start arriving? Most of their current Carribean routes just don't work from here in AUS, as you have to fly to EWR the day before to catch the morning flight to the island. As it is, DL through ATL is a viable option as you can do it pretty easily in one day, but it would be MUCH nicer if CO opened up some more routes from IAH. I would think they could capture some traffic from this part of the world that currently uses AA from DFW via SJU or MIA as well.

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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4728 times:

I'm still holding out for a PVD-IAH run. With new aircraft arriving in 2008, maybe we'll see some new routes from CO...

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3939 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4668 times:
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it certainly would be nice..........I was dissapointed when we dropped our PUJ route, although the LF on that was horrendous, so it was no surprise. At least we have SJU/GCM/MBJ/AUA/POS/BON


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

We won't be seeing a whole lot of anything from Houston as long as people in the Western portion of the US prefer to take vacations to the likes of Hawaii and Mexican beach resorts. Some of the Caribbean routes (BON-for one) cater to small niches, such as diving and CO's schedule reflects that.

Something to SDQ and STT wouldn't be bad though  twocents 

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 1):
At least we have SJU/GCM/MBJ/AUA/POS/BON

You guys also have service to Nassau, Bahamas (NAS) (ERJ/735)



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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 839 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4598 times:
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I think it would serve CO well if they expanded their network in the Carribean. While they certainly do have a lot of routes, there are a number of underserved high $$$ destinations that would do great from all hubs. Well, at least once there is enough equipment available to do more than weekly flights.


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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

although BGI was a a failure from EWR....one would think that you could fill a 738 to IAH couple of times a week.


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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3938 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4384 times:

A few months back, I was going out with a local girl who is a travel agent and I brought up the subject of the lack of Caribbean destinations from IAH. Basically she echoed what MD80fan in reply #4 stated ,

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 3):
We won't be seeing a whole lot of anything from Houston as long as people in the Western portion of the US prefer to take vacations to the likes of Hawaii and Mexican beach resorts. Some of the Caribbean routes (BON-for one) cater to small niches, such as diving and CO's schedule reflects that.



There seems not too be enough local demand from Texas or connecting traffic from points further west from IAH to the Caribbean (in particular the Eastern Caribbean) to justify a build up from IAH. Many Texans seem to prefer Mexico, Belize and areas in the Western Caribbean , i.e. Cayman Islands, Jamaica, while West Coasters enjoy Mexico (Baja and other areas on Mexico's Pacific coast) and Hawaii, while the Eastern Caribbean seems to be the domain of those from the Northeast.

Thomas



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7549 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4317 times:

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 6):
A few months back, I was going out with a local girl who is a travel agent and I brought up the subject of the lack of Caribbean destinations from IAH. Basically she echoed what MD80fan in reply #4 stated ,



Quoting MD90fan (Reply 3):
We won't be seeing a whole lot of anything from Houston as long as people in the Western portion of the US prefer to take vacations to the likes of Hawaii and Mexican beach resorts. Some of the Caribbean routes (BON-for one) cater to small niches, such as diving and CO's schedule reflects that.

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This is very very true. Being a travel agent in LA, I see this. We dont get a whole lot of people who want to go to the carribeian. IAH isnt located well for traffic from the east coast to the Carribiean, even though it is ideally located for traffic from the West Coast, Mountain West, and Texas to the Carribiean.

I dont know that IAH needs new destinations per se, but what I would like to see is an increase of frequencies to a couple of the Carribiean destinations they do have. AUA is the biggest. From what ive heard loads are pretty good. I also think they should increase frequencies to GCM and MBJ.

Do any of you guys know what CO's best preforming carribean routes from IAH are? I heard that POS is up there. Not surprising since it has daily service and the loads are good.



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3939 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4303 times:
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there are times where we run 2x IAH-GCM service


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4284 times:

Who remembers the IAH-MSY-CCS service circa 1987? Flown twice or thrice weekly I believe with B727-200.

User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3938 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4260 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 9):
Who remembers the IAH-MSY-CCS service circa 1987? Flown twice or thrice weekly I believe with B727-200.

This was before my move to the Houston area, however I did do VIASA from IAH-AUA-CCS in 91, the A/C A300, (if memory serves, an ex-Eastern Airbus). I took this prior to my departure.


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User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4153 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 1):
I'm still holding out for a PVD-IAH run. With new aircraft arriving in 2008, maybe we'll see some new routes from CO...

I'm with you on that one.  Smile



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User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2026 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

I think I have an ANCIENT CO timetable where it shows they served Maracaibo Venezuela.

User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3432 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 5):
although BGI was a a failure from EWR....one would think that you could fill a 738 to IAH couple of times a week.

I too think BGI could work, although the POS flight has only worked well given the business links. I would think BGI would be too focussed on leisure to being in the kind of yields needed to sustain a route like that.

EWR I suspect was a failure because more Caribbean ppl live nearer JFK than EWR and JFK service to the Caribbean islands is pretty good as it is!

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User currently offlineSTXBohn From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3831 times:

CO could do IAH-STT-STX-IAH and cover the cruise traffic out of STT and catch a little of the oil traffic on STX. CO would probably ressurect the old similar triangle EWR-STT-STX-EWR first. Of course, only in my dreams as we're stuck to AA mainline, once a day out of STX. I'd take direct service to IAH or EWR over MIA anyday. Both are much, much better airports. My OnePass miles would become useful again.

CO couples with Cape Air out of SJU to hit STT, STX, others in PR, and the BVIs. Cessna 402s only seat 7 though...

AUS would probably most benefit from an early bird special to MIA to make the mid-day Caribbean connections. I know that I would use it instead of spending the day doing the AUS-DFW-SJU-STX gambit. It takes a whole day to go the other way too, STX-SJU-DFW-AUS, as opposed to a half day/evening. The flight from MIA to AUS could then be an 8:45ish departure to capture all the Caribbean returns too. The market probably couldn't support a 738 such that they'd be thinking ERJs which may not have the legs to get there.



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