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Cubana In Europe  
User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3856 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5909 times:

What destinations do Cubana currently serve in Europe? Is the London route still served by leased aircraft, or has it been Il96-ed yet?

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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5858 times:

From my impressions while staying in Cuba a few days ago:

LIS (IL6)
ORY (IL9, also served from SCU)
LGW (UX 763)
MAD (IL9 and UX 763)
MXP (IL9)



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7402 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5782 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 1):
ORY (IL9, also served from SCU)

Flights to ORY are operated by a B763


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4302 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5668 times:

I thought they stopped flying transatlantic with the Il-62 (LIS, LPA). Even with Il-96s I'd love flying Cubana to Cuba. Their website www.cubana.cu isn't much of a help finding schedules etc so far. Anyone know if there's a website with booking options?


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9712 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5649 times:

When using its own aircraft, I think CU only flies scheduled to MAD and charter flights to LIS but no other destinations in Europe. Maybe someone else has more insight in this.

A388


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5624 times:

Amadeus has most of the timetables and schedules online, but I can't access the site currently; it seems to be having some internal problems.


Dan Smile



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
When using its own aircraft, I think CU only flies scheduled to MAD and charter flights to LIS but no other destinations in Europe. Maybe someone else has more insight in this.

A388

To my knowledge Cubana only uses the IL-96 to MAD once or twice a week, then they either fly the chartered Air Europa 767-300 the rest of the week or code-share on Air Europa's A330-200 flight. I believe LGW and ORY are scheduled from HAV using the chartered Air Europa 767-300.

Back when Cubana leased the Novair A330-200 and Air Atlanta 747-400 the routing was HAV-MAD-ORY-MAD-HAV.

As for the IL-96 it looks like it is used to EZE and MAD as well as other destinations in South American I'm assuming.



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
Amadeus has most of the timetables and schedules online, but I can't access the site currently; it seems to be having some internal problems.

I'm having the same problem. The information I posted above came from Flightstats which only give me information from yesterday, today, and tomorrow.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26845 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

.....6. LGW1 HAV 1300 2010 CU 401 767
..3.... LGW1 HAV 1330 2040 CU 401 767

....5.. MAD HAV 1455 1850 CU 471 IL9
1...... MAD1 HAV 1900# 0040 CU 471 767


....5.. ORY HAV 1200 1605 CU 441 767
......7 ORY1 HAV 1635 2245 CU 445 767

1...... FCO1 HAV 1000 1645 CU 423 767
....5.. FCO HAV 1100 1620 CU 421 767
....5.. FCO HAV 1110 1645 CU 421 767
..3.... FCO1 HAV 1530 2330 CU 425 767

....5.. MXP1 HAV 0900 1645 CU 421 767

For some reason it says no flights into LIS so this must be a charter.


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5554 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
For some reason it says no flights into LIS so this must be a charter.

I believe the LIS flights are charters.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
....5.. MAD HAV 1455 1850 CU 471 IL9
1...... MAD1 HAV 1900# 0040 CU 471 767

Good to know I was correct here.  Smile

Last summer the Cubana IL-96 came in on Saturdays instead of Fridays.

And if I am correct I believe the chartered Air Europa 767-300 is EC-JJJ.



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User currently offlineIrish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 964 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

Currently CUB1460, type Yak-42, is en route Havana to Gander and is probably inbound to Europe after that - maybe Shannon?

User currently offlineWingedarrow From Italy, joined May 2005, 169 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

In FCO they code-share with Blue Panorama actually...


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User currently offlineEmptyarm From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5338 times:

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 9):
And if I am correct I believe the chartered Air Europa 767-300 is EC-JJJ

That's right, but one week out of each three EC-JJJ is operating Air Europa flights, being changed the next monday and going back to Cubana's operation. as I know, these flights are being operated using CU's cabin crew.

IIRC, before having the UX 767-300, Cubana used in their MAD flights an AOM DC-10, later on it became into a veteran JAT DC-10 and finally the Novair A332 (SE-RBG), which went to Air Madrid once CU started using their own metal and the UX B763.


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5329 times:

Quoting Wingedarrow (Reply 11):
In FCO they code-share with Blue Panorama actually...

That's what I thought.

Quoting Emptyarm (Reply 12):
IIRC, before having the UX 767-300, Cubana used in their MAD flights an AOM DC-10, later on it became into a veteran JAT DC-10 and finally the Novair A332 (SE-RBG), which went to Air Madrid once CU started using their own metal and the UX B763.

Don't forget the Air Atlanta 747-400 TF-AMI that operated for a short while.


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5271 times:
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Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 6):
To my knowledge Cubana only uses the IL-96 to MAD once or twice a week, then they either fly the chartered Air Europa 767-300 the rest of the week or code-share on Air Europa's A330-200 flight. I believe LGW and ORY are scheduled from HAV using the chartered Air Europa 767-300.

The 767 operations of Cubana are operated by UX (as you said) and BP wet-leased aircrafts. The flights to MXP, FCO and ORY are operated by the Italian airline. The flight to UK are UX.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26845 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5202 times:

Quoting Wingedarrow (Reply 11):
In FCO they code-share with Blue Panorama actually...

Code share?? What is the other flight number then as when its a code share there must be a @ next to the flight number if it is not a CU crewed flight.


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5160 times:

Quoting Irish251 (Reply 10):
Currently CUB1460, type Yak-42, is en route Havana to Gander and is probably inbound to Europe after that - maybe Shannon?

This sounds like an interesting one. Maybe it is heading to Russia for maintenance / sale.

I'm looking forward to flying Cubana next week - CCS-HAV-SDQ - both flights operated by IL-62s!  Smile


User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

I thought that CU flies regularly to SVO. Were these flights discontinued? Also, did CU offer scheduled flights to Germany after the fall of the Berlin Wall?

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5145 times:

Quoting IAD380 (Reply 17):
I thought that CU flies regularly to SVO.

Not that I am aware of. I believe the only direct connection between Cuba and Russia is operated by Aeroflot with 767-300 aircraft. The flight used to be operated by IL-96 aircraft which is what I saw back in 2002 when I visited Cuba.



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User currently offlineWingedarrow From Italy, joined May 2005, 169 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

One of them should be flight BV1106 FCO/CYO/HAV equipped with a B763...

[Edited 2007-04-29 12:24:15]


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User currently offlineEKSkycargo370 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

Il96....dangerous dangerous aircraft!

User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 20):

I´ld love to fly on one  Smile


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26845 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 21):
´ld love to fly on one

I was on a IL86 and it was fantastic experience. Id love to go on a IL96 .


User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2661 times:
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Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 20):
Il96....dangerous dangerous aircraft!

Out of interest, what are you basing this on? I cannot seem to find any accidents for this aircraft type, other than a brief spell when they were grounded to check a braking gear.

Kev.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 20):
Il96....dangerous dangerous aircraft!

...so how many have crashed, how many fatalities have their been and how many major disasters have involved them? Hmm, none me thinks, funny that. Yes, they have some issues and were withdrawn until they could be checked and amended which is the only sensible thing to do, but just because they are Russian does NOT mean that they are going to be death traps which keep falling from the sky. Get yourself out of such a stupid mindset, it's record is on a par with the 777 and A340.  Yeah sure


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25 UK_Dispatcher : Oh, let me guess.... Because its Russian?? There's always one - they always turn up in any discussion involving Russian airliners. Shame. Actually, I
26 OA260 : If the quote is true then hes on drugs!!! EY are fast approaching EK if not nearly overtaking them in terms of service!!!
27 A388 : So I was right as well. CU only flies the IL96 to MAD on a scheduled basis and LIS on charter basis. I only didn't know about their other European fli
28 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Yes I do remember seeing this on Amadeus last time I was planning my trip there. Not sure if it is every day though. Well, can I have some of what th
29 Wingedarrow : Another code-shared flight with BV from FCO is BV1302 (CU465) to SCU/HAV, same 763 equipment...
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