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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Good morning folks!

Well, Thread No. 20 has gone on for a week now and since we're over the 200 mark, it's probably time to move on.

Lots of interesting developments to look forward to over the next week, particularly as the different parties publish their manifestos. Hopefully, for once, aviation will get a look in and at least one of them will recognise its importance to developing the Irish economy.

The announcement yesterday of the new bilateral deal with Canada is a very important step, in that it means that in the space of less than two months, two of our most damaging and backward bilaterals have effectively been chucked out the window. Next step, however, is to be proactive in developing new markets, particularly in Asia. For a country like Ireland, on the periphery, just signing bilaterals isn't enough; we need to go out there and develop the new markets and ensure that our aviation infrastructure is able to accommodate the new routes.

Over the past few weeks, we've seen a very considerable increase in the 787's order book and if the Times is to be believed, the EK A350 order will be placed this week. Aer Lingus is supposed to have a board meeting on the 1st May, which is Tuesday. With the steady spate of orders flowing in - around 6-8 months of 787 production ordered in the space of ten days, EI will hopefully not hang around for too much longer. I understand that responses to RFPs are in, so it may well be that we won't be left waiting too much longer.

Over to you, my friends ...

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Over the past few weeks, we've seen a very considerable increase in the 787's order book and if the Times is to be believed, the EK A350 order will be placed this week

It will be interesting to see how many they order. Would be even nicer if they put one on a DUB-DXB route.

I am going more with the A350 for EI it would make more sense and would tie in with the rest of the fleet being all Airbus. I guess it depends on what deal they get but Im sure EI will get a good deal from Airbus hopefully one they cant refuse.


User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5314 times:

Alright, I'm pretty excited about the new Canadian bilateral, but can't find too much info on it.
Does anyone know the details ?
Does it come into effect immediatly ?
This could open up a year round AC to YYZ (at least), with the possibility of Zoom coming in too.
Nice one.



Haven't we been here before ?
User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5295 times:

Ireland to get direct airlink with Israel in the next three months
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Arkia Israeli Airlines will begin the first regularly scheduled direct commercial flights between Dub and Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv. Soruces close to the airline suggested the Israeli airline was also in talks with Aer Lingus about a codesharing agreement. Aer Lingus has had discussions with Arkia regarding the route , according to a spokeswoman, but would not confirm any details.
Arkia received approval for the route from the Israel transportation ministry after nation carrier El Al declined to take it up, but was unclear whether the airline would excercise it's operators licenseuntil its weekly Monday flight appeared on the DAA's summer timetable last week.
In the past Arkia had been able to fly only summer charters between the two countries . As a regularly scheduled flight, the Dublin-Tel Aviv is now available on an open ticket basis, which means it will show up on travel agent's booking systems and internet travel sites- making it potentially attractive to other airlines with no presence in Israel such as Aer Lingus.
Many technology firms with operations in Ireland also have strong links with Israel, including Intel, Websense, and Performix.
Ireland is among the last western European countries to establish a direct airlink with Israel.
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Good luck to them!



St. Flannan/ Fhlanain- She took off to find the footlights, And I took off for the sky
User currently offlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5282 times:

Quoting EISHN (Reply 3):
Ireland to get direct airlink with Israel in the next three months

Flights will operate every Monday:

Arkia
IZ 921
Tel Aviv,Ben Gurion - Dublin
Departs: 16:50
Arrives: 21:40
Boeing 757-300
Total Flight Time 5:49 Hours

Arkia
IZ 922
Dublin, - Tel Aviv,Ben Gurion
Departs: 23:10
Arrives: 05:30 (Next day)
Boeing 757-300
Total Flight Time 5:19 Hours


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5274 times:

Quoting EI787 (Reply 4):
Flights will operate every Monday:

Arkia
IZ 921
Tel Aviv,Ben Gurion - Dublin
Departs: 16:50
Arrives: 21:40
Boeing 757-300
Total Flight Time 5:49 Hours

Arkia
IZ 922
Dublin, - Tel Aviv,Ben Gurion
Departs: 23:10
Arrives: 05:30 (Next day)
Boeing 757-300
Total Flight Time 5:19 Hours

Its been in the CRS for months and months now and still the flights are empty !!! The only people booking onto it are a few Pilgrimages to the Holy Land and some ex pat Israelis. I cant see it getting more than 45-50% loads especially if things continue the way they are in the region. Also I wonder what security will be in place . When you look at LY in other countries there are armed police around the check in area and ticket desk. Also what about profiling and increased security ???


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5274 times:

Oy vey! It's at night ... typical - the lengths they go to, to avoid photography!

Still, good to see a new airline flying in, even if it's an existing charter airline flying scheduled.


User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

Well it said in the article (the part I left otu) that flight will continue til October, until the end of the highs of the Jewish holidays, after that, traffic will likely decline steeply. The code sharing with EI is intersting though.


St. Flannan/ Fhlanain- She took off to find the footlights, And I took off for the sky
User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3927 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

Interesting to see Arkia launch a scheduled link to TLV. Even more interesting to see the possibility that EI might codeshare on the route. Also interesting id the use of a 757-300, would this be the first time the aircraft has been used into Ireland on a scheduled basis?

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineDaHawk From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5264 times:

Im excited for the 1 stop service from Sydney to Dublin!! With Etihad..woo hoooo!

Good to see Dublin loses one but gains another..this time an Airline that offers much better connex & I believe better product then what GF offered from SYD-SIN-BAH-DUB.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5243 times:

Quoting DaHawk (Reply 9):
this time an Airline that offers much better connex & I believe better product then what GF offered from SYD-SIN-BAH-DUB.

The good thing is that you can break your journey for free as the SYD flight doesnt connect alot of the time and EY give you free hotel in AUH and transfers. Nice stopover for free and a chance to sleep. Also 30Kilos allowance in Y . Very attractive especially to people going over for a year to work.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

Welcome on board, DaHawk; 14 posts on your first day - not bad!

Yes, it's great to have EY on board now, especially as GF is about to go. GF opened the door to the M/E for us, so although we're very sad to see them leave, we're thankful for the service they gave us. EY is a far more cash-rich company and will hopefully stay with us for a lot longer. With EK and QR still growing very strongly, we might even see one or both of them come on board.

I didn't notice that IZ was going to codeshare with EI to TLV. I hope they stay around longer than just the Summer season. 753s surprise me, but I hope they do well anyway.


User currently offlineDaHawk From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5209 times:

Well thankyou Kaitak!

Ive been a long lost reader of Airliners.net....thought ill join, get on the paddy wagon and be a participator  Wink

Its great to see EY enter the market! Even better im moving to Abu Dhabi to begin Cabin Crew training for EY in 2 weeks airplane   Wink I love Ireland..beautiful country and cant wait to be part of a such a young Airline with alot of potential!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5207 times:

See TK has opened a ticket desk next to BMI in Dublin airport. Nice to see and also the increased service proberbly warranted their own desk.

User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5194 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
See TK has opened a ticket desk next to BMI in Dublin airport. Nice to see and also the increased service proberbly warranted their own desk.

They've been there awhile now. They've moved up from those pointless ticket-desks in the arrivals hall!


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5184 times:

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 14):

They've been there awhile now. They've moved up from those pointless ticket-desks in the arrivals hall!

Do you know how the route is doing? DUB-IST-DUB I mean....



Coffee - Tea or Me?
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 14):
They've been there awhile now. They've moved up from those pointless ticket-desks in the arrivals hall!

When Area 14 opens its going to be a long haul with trolleys etc... if you have to go to the ticket desks two levels up!! I wonder if they will open ticket counters in Area 14???


User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 15):
Do you know how the route is doing? DUB-IST-DUB I mean....

Well they've upped the frequencies of late, I think from 3 to 5 per week, I guess this was based on the good performance of the three per week schedule. I remember seeing the check-in for this flight last February and there was a constant stream of PAX checking in for it, mostly of Turkish origin I think. They've done well to get in on the Irish-Turkish route before anyone else and I hope to see therm establish themselves in this market and maybe add Izmir-Dublin to their schedule.


User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5176 times:

Quoting Rineanna (Reply 17):
Well they've upped the frequencies of late, I think from 3 to 5 per week, I guess this was based on the good performance of the three per week schedule. I remember seeing the check-in for this flight last February and there was a constant stream of PAX checking in for it, mostly of Turkish origin I think. They've done well to get in on the Irish-Turkish route before anyone else and I hope to see therm establish themselves in this market and maybe add Izmir-Dublin to their schedule.

I know the TK rep, and the flight is expected to go daily next year. The route is apparently filled with Irish pax going to Turkey, people travelling to/from the Gulf, and also a lot of pax to BKK!


User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5161 times:

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 18):
The route is apparently filled with Irish pax going to Turkey, people travelling to/from the Gulf, and also a lot of pax to BKK

That's good to hear, especially with the recent spate of withdrawals from DUB. I suppose the investment in Turkish property that has occurred over the last few years has helped to stimulate demand. Can you fly DUB-IGL via IST?

Just a few bits and pieces that may be of interest,
-LS are using the wet-leased, Newcastle-based Flightline 146 on the Saturday service to ORK.
-Belavia are still using their TU-154s on scheduled flights to SNN, along with their 735s
-Tampa is being offered as a direct destination from SNN with UA and US from SNN via one stop. Don't think I've seen that before.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5161 times:

Izmir will not happen anytime soon already too many charters as I said before. We book loads of people on the BKK and other far east routes. Some also on the KHI route but they have to sleep in IST overnight on the outward as its hard for them to get visas ( Pakistani nationals). A few Irish who own property fly DUB-IST-ADB . The fares are very good and some corporates fly J class which are amazing value. When they join Star Alliance they will pick up alot of Irish traffic who would normally go LH . TK have a great J class product and have great links to Central Asia. I would fly TK over LH anyday. They are having a trade evening soon so I might go along especially if they are offering prizes!!!  

Funny thing is alot of agents dont know about the good fares and connections. Mind you its good for me as I can always get S class which is the best fares. I flew TK to Northern Cyprus Via IST and it was great. I also did IST on another trip. Id love to go back to IST on the DUB-IST route. I have a very good friend who is doing national service near Batman so that would make an interesting TR !!!

Also TK are the only airline other than OA that serve my favourite Cherry juice which Im addicted to . Big grin

[Edited 2007-04-29 17:38:16]

User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

Thanks for the answers guys... I am glad to hear that the route is doing well....

Quoting Rineanna (Reply 19):
Can you fly DUB-IGL via IST?

Nobody flies to that airport. It's ADB  Smile



Coffee - Tea or Me?
User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5127 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 20):
Also TK are the only airline other than OA that serve my favourite Cherry juice which Im addicted to

Tell me about it... When I was living in Switzerland, I couldn't find cherry juice anywhere.. The closest to it was cranberry juice... And once I was onboard TK, I used to drink plenty  Smile



Coffee - Tea or Me?
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 22):
Tell me about it... When I was living in Switzerland, I couldn't find cherry juice anywhere.. The closest to it was cranberry juice... And once I was onboard TK, I used to drink plenty

LOL.. on a flight from LHR to IST I drank Cherry Juice all the way then later I asked the FA for some more but she said 'Sorry Sir but you have drunk it all''  Smile You cant buy it here. The only place I see it is in London in the Greek and Turkish shops. I have a client who is Turkish and everytime he comes back he brings me a carton of it !!! He is a star in my eyes. When I come back from Greece I check in 40 kilos of food and drink lol... Tell me TurkishWings when will I be able to earn miles on TK?? When is the official entry into Star Alliance?? I know that LH have agreements in place but Im BMI .


User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5122 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 21):

Quote:
Nobody flies to that airport. It's ADB

Oh, my bad!I didn't know the code for the airport so searched for it on this airport codes website and IGL was what was returned. Sorry!


Just with all the talk here regarding TK, I went on to their website and read a rather excellent, possibly the best I've ever read, travel guide to Dublin. Very nice indeed! I must say their website is excellent, and they seem to be putting alot of effort into the DUB route. Here's the travel guide;
http://www.thy.com/en-INT/corporate/skylife/article.aspx?mkl=84

[Edited 2007-04-29 18:48:45]

[Edited 2007-04-29 18:49:38]

25 Post contains images TurkishWings : According to TK, They will be a full member by mid-2008. However, you might be able to start earning miles on all SA members before that... Hopefully
26 Post contains images OA260 : Yeah I have a few copies of Skylife, its a good magazine. I have the one with the article on Thessaloniki in it and also another with Pamukkale in it
27 Post contains images N272WA : Thanks for the link Rineanna, very nice report indeed of Dublin, but such flowery language!! Very Wilde-like... Thanks for sharing....
28 Aer Lingus : Interesting. Having worked in Duty Free we used to stay open late for this flight and this flight only every monday. each time it was jammers and mos
29 Post contains images OA260 : Ok I can check the loads for you tomorrow but unless they have changed that much since 2 weeks ago when I was checking fares and availability then I
30 BrianDromey : Grrrr totally know what you mean! During the summer I work with the public, and some of them can be a total nightmare. It's like there are three peop
31 EI787 : I see on aerlingus.com that EI will be moving from Terminal 4 to Terminal 1 in MAD from May 7th. Is this due to EI leaving OneWorld??
32 Post contains images Scorp : If that's the case, then I wonder what EI is going to do with them all, because as far as I was aware, EI was going to be the sole user of Area 14 ..
33 Post contains images EI787 : Oh dear lord. Could you imagine?!
34 Post contains images OA260 : Yeah there is a sign there from memory. You talking about the girls in the Swiss office??? The girls in the Swiss office are lovely and very helpful.
35 Post contains images Scorp :
36 Post contains images BrianDromey : Oh! That is good..... The very ones. They really are great. I was enquiring about DUB-FCO//MXP-DUB in J (I wonder who inspired me.....). They advised
37 Post contains images OA260 : Well I do have the Greek hot blood but I never hold a grudge which Is something Irish people find hard to deal with. I scream and shout if im mad but
38 BrianDromey : Its not that is a really bad pic. When the agent opens the passport (which is in a VERY nice, tan Aspinal of London cover) they see a fat 12 y/o kid
39 COEI2007 : I know DUB-CLT is offered one stop via PHL, and I think MAN-PHL also has a LAX or LAS service tagged on! Its similar to the DL flight from DUB to MCO
40 OA260 : ZRH is really spotter friendly and they even have a cafe/restaurant in the outside viewing area. You can get quite close to the planes and good views
41 Aerarann : When I was on check-in, my personal policy was to let most of the ladies away with excess baggage if it was below 10kg, and if it was over 10kg, i'd
42 Post contains links and images Smokeyrosco : The Soon to be EI-DVE
43 Post contains images Toulouse : I suspected that might happen as T4 is "mainly" for Iberia and other OneWorld carriers. In a way it's a pity as T4 is a great sight, yet certainly ol
44 MetalInyoni : hi Guys Yesterday evening I flew on Ryanair's aircraft EI-DPS from Birmingham to Dublin. It appeared to be really new - how would i find out when that
45 Post contains images OA260 : I have to say I loved IB, I flew with them DUB-MAD-HAV and back and it was very nice. Even nicer on the return when I got to my seat and someone was
46 Philb : How did you know? Unless you recognised the company name how did you know it wasn't his own company and the amount you so gleefully took wouldn't be
47 Provance :
48 OA260 : If it was a company then it doesnt matter either way. He could get some tax back anyway I presume. Its hardly a poor student . US AIRWAYS OFFICIALLY
49 Mccormk : Anybody know who the handle agent is for USair in Dub.
50 Philb : As someone who ran two companies side by side, one a sole trader the other a limited liability company, I can tell you the following: 1. The amount o
51 Pilot21 : Hi Metallnyoni I checked the ATDB database, seems that aircraft was 'built' on 8th March 2007, but the info. on the web page doesn't tell me if that
52 Post contains links EIDAA : According to http://www.airfleets.net the aircraft had its first flight on March 20th and was handed over to Ryanair on March 29th... only a few week
53 Oa260 : Proving it would be hard and again it is or was at the agents discretion. If I thought someone really couldnt pay then I would be more understanding.
54 Post contains images EI787 : Just how do they expect to fit 398 passengers on an A321??
55 OA260 : Nice to see EI doing this . I was involved in the ones that were held here. It was a real honour to support this organisation and I met so many amazi
56 OA260 : XL Airways start their summer program tomorrow :: Palma Excel Airways XLA748V 01-05-2007 06:10 Santorini Excel Airways XLA744V 01-05-2007 14:25 Will b
57 BrianDromey : Philb, instead of complaining about the agents descretion you should apreciate the fact that they have it at all. Descretion is exactly that, the age
58 Philb : Well in my exxperience of almost 45 years as an independent traveller, working with passengers for a handling agent, travelling on business and doing
59 Post contains images OA260 : Brian you hit the nail on the head, totally agree. And as for those X Y Z business men , I think we all deal with them in our daily lives unfortunate
60 COEI2007 : Servisair. The only US staff, are the Airport Sales Agent, Lead Agent, Supervisor and Station Manager!
61 Philb : Perhaps when you and Brian learn the difference between discretion and discrimination you may learn something about customer service and treating peo
62 EISHN : Well I know that De;lta have 6 engineers, who do ground work for Delta, AA, and CO (not sure about US) and are very likely to be doing work for North
63 Post contains links Kaitak : Here's the route chart for DEL-ORD; DUB seems very much out of the way.
64 BrianDromey : Going down very dangerous water here. What is it with the mud-slinging? Its getting VERY tiresome. Its becoming worringly frequent. Agents let pretty
65 Rineanna : They operated them right up until a couple of years ago to Agadir. They were late night, or early morning whatever way you want to look at it, They e
66 Kaitak : Guys, the very fact that a posting on this thread has been deleted shows that our threads are being watched; these are enjoyed by a lot of people and
67 Smokeyrosco : Well as I said in the last thread the announcement I'm waiting for is due in 2Q '07.... which is within the next 60 days. I used to work for a handli
68 Post contains images OA260 : Kaitak your right . I suggest the following self moderation :: If you find a post that is aggressive or offensive ignore it and just contact the mode
69 Post contains images Rineanna : The Excel.com flights are getting a nice bit of publicity down the mid-west region; Live95fm (local radio station for Limerick) has been promoting the
70 Post contains links OA260 : An interesting flight on the boards this morning !!! Beirut Astraeus AEU711 01-05-2007 07:15 ---------------------------------------------------------
71 AerArann : I know the topic is finished, but i just want to quickly have my say. The behaviour i carried out, was one that was portrayed to me from my experienc
72 OA260 : Very true . If I saw an old lady travelling alone I would try to give her a good seat or even an upgrade. Also I remember a woman who was travelling
73 AerArann : Well said.
74 Toulouse : I haven't read the whole topic, and as something has been deleted and I can't check, but just my 2 cents. I totally agree with Brian. This is no rocke
75 Post contains images OA260 : I really find it funny that you do this but not in a bad way. I always look for the one either man or woman who is happy or smiling if Im dealing fac
76 Post contains images EI787 : I saw the XL plane arriving into Dublin - it flew over my school at about 12:30. Yes, I would love to see the 787's - they may still materialise yet
77 Philb : I've sat back quietly for some time and let others have their say. First of, thanks to Toulouse for his kind comments. Secondly, my thoughts re public
78 OA260 : Cool . Did it look good?? Was it the one with the winglets?? I guess that was the one due to operate the DUB-JTR flight today.
79 AerArann : A new airline, flywhoosh.com, is launching flights from Dundee - BHD and BHX. Surely if theres demand for a double daily BHX and a daily BHD, maybe we
80 OA260 : Interesting , didnt know that !! They will do well with academics going between Queens Belfast and Dundee Uni. also some business men may use it . Ho
81 EI787 : Yeah it looked class - the new XL livery with winglets!
82 BrianDromey : The thing with customer service agents in general ( and this applies accross the board) is that they are so used to people making a fuss that they ar
83 OA260 : If any of you get ITV2 there is a cool program on called ''Airline USA'' its a day in the life of FA on Southwest.
84 EI787 : They used to show it on TV3 last year. Friday afternoons about 3pm. I don't think they show it any more though. It's a great show and I think it's be
85 OA260 : Yeah they just showed two in a row in ITV2 , I had never seen it before. Its been years since I flew Southwest. I liked it because you could sit up t
86 COEI2007 : I used to watch that! It was on TV3 on a Friday at 3.30! Anyway, back to aviation!!! Any signs of increased Canada flights with the new bilateral???
87 Post contains images OA260 : Eur 722 plus taxes is the fare if you know where to book !!!! Travel agents fares are better than EY website. Yes wouls be interesting. Pics of insid
88 Post contains links and images BrianDromey : Woops, sorry guys, my connection is playing up.....refusing to connect at certina times ...broadband aint all that, for whoever is waiting for it! Ma
89 Post contains images EI787 : Wow..cool link there!! That's one for the bookmarks!!
90 OA260 : Brian that happens to me sometimes but now rather than re post I just go back into the aviation forum and select Irish thread again and you will see
91 Smokeyrosco : Looks like EI won't be making any announcement before it's AGM apparently, but as far as I was aware the format for the AGM hasn't been finalised, I t
92 OA260 : Yeah is that a link into Sabre system?? Its years since I used 1 key before availability!!! We use format A13NOVDUBJFK*EI
93 Post contains images BrianDromey : Thanks . But Im getting greedy now, I want more! Yeup, SABRE. Although amadeus.net is really useful, it just gives too much rubbish since they have r
94 OA260 : WOW I think im at work lol....its very good though as it shows even the internet classes. I will save this to my favourites.
95 COEI2007 : Sadly its not a 767, but my favourite aircraft, 757!!! It'll do! i prefer J on the 757 anyway, as its a smaller cabin, and you get more attentive ser
96 EIRules : I hate the 757, every time I have flown it I have had bad experiences - with AA, DL, CO and BA. I just get a horrible cramped feeling on them, cant r
97 COEI2007 : Well, maybe in Y, but J on a 75 is great! I love the 75! They're a great a/c! 753 is rediculously long! Its hilarious to walk the full lenght of the
98 Kaitak : That's only four weeks of a wait, although one poster on PPRUNE suggested that the announcement could be made this week. I was kind of hoping it migh
99 OA260 : Are the seats in J the same as on the 767??? I know what you mean , I wouldnt do a 757 to USA unless it was J class. Kaitak do you think EI may go fo
100 COEI2007 : They're pretty much the same! The reading light is different, and I think they recline a little less!
101 EIBoston : Took my first trip on a CO753 from SFO-EWR a couple of weeks ago and that is the first thing that struck me. How long is this single aisle bird??
102 EI787 : 54.4 metres long - compared to 47m for the 752!
103 Post contains images Eirbus06 : Thought i'd post this pic.It's of EI-SHN being flown over toulouse,Pre-delivery in 1994. Also, in today's evening echo in cork, Airport marketing mana
104 Post contains links and images EISHN : Eirbus06, thats one of my photos! I scanned it and sent it to airliners and myaviation.net, but it was rejected by airliners. Glad you liked though.
105 Eirbus06 : Excellent photo.saw it on MY AVIATION.NET.Strange how it could not make it on Airliners
106 OA260 : LOL as soon as I saw it I thought I regognise that pic....its EISHN's ....nice to see it again all the same. And also nice to see your other pics you
107 EISHN : They said it was too dark. The real photo is quite big, and I could not fit the whole thing in the scanner, so I left out irrelavent areas, but some o
108 OA260 : They will seat me in Premier anyway , they always do . I just flash my ID and then they manually change the boarding card. The crew find it funny tho
109 Post contains images EI787 : Not fair! I want one of those ID's
110 EISHN : I'm sure you'll find it in your heart to forgive me for making you want to fly. Oh, what a terrible thing I've done...
111 BrianDromey : I must say, I am REALLY looking forward to flying on the 757-300 later in the summer. I don't think I've flow on a 757 before! Although I do remember
112 OA260 : The last time I was on a 757 was 10 years ago on a Guyana Airways 757 from JFK to Georgetown. Was very nice. The only other time was on BA Supershutt
113 Post contains images Eirbus06 : Very exciting times for cork indeed ,but i wonder how much influence the DAA have in these talks.
114 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Morning everyone! I have been on a break from A.net for the past 10 days (seems much longer) because I have been studying for exams and getting ready
115 Toulouse : Welcome back Shamrock350... I had imagined you must be stuying hard given your absence. Hope all is going well and fingers crossed for you! I agree wi
116 BrianDromey : 100% agreed. EI took those early build A330s and is getting very good use out of them. They are a really comfortable aircraft to fly on, and very qui
117 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Thanks Toulouse! It's hard to study when London is having record temperatures outside and BA 747s are flying over every 10 minutes The A320/1s and A3
118 Toulouse : Agreed, but the 787 is also very complex, and I do know (can't quote as I don't remember the source nor how reliable it was) but when Airbus was offe
119 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Any news on the new A330s? I know it's only May 2nd but I cant wait to see them and their new cabin. I really think Airbus will be offering a great de
120 Post contains links EISHN : Uh oh.... http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/?jp=MHAUIDIDKFSN&rss=rss1 I thought, that they weren't going to announce any new routes until DUB was so
121 Rineanna : What's with the "uh oh" ?
122 OA260 : Nice to see ALC, Alicante itself is a very nice city. Its Benidorm thats the bad area. Might have to go back sometime. €10 each way incl taxes!!! Go
123 EIDUZ : Yet more competition for Aer Lingus from Ryanair. But im sure Alicante can handle both.
124 EISHN : Well FR are adding another route that directly competes with EI, on the lucrative Spanish routes.
125 Toulouse : Exactly. I really do believe FR are out to do as much harm as possible to EI (even though they have a fairly large shareholding in the airline for th
126 JWMD123 : Again another route they have annouced that adds more weight to the fact the EU will turn down their request to take over EI. On the ALC route, is FR
127 N272WA : I thought EI only used the 330 to AGP and NCE in Europe ?? Since when are they using it to ALC?
128 OA260 : Its still in system as A320 but I guess if demand needed they could run a A330 down and back. That special DUB-ATH-DUB charter for the Champions leag
129 Post contains images BrianDromey : Airbus could never have forseen the delays that the A380 programme has suffered. The 787 programme could be similarly delayed, for many, many reasons
130 EIBoston : Do you think our own EI will look at ORK for t/a? If the Americans start flying in there then that will surely have an impact on SNN services to the
131 Toulouse : Exactly my sentiment and glad to see it being expressed by another "a.netter"! Yes, you're right to play devil's advocate, and I agree we could flip
132 BrianDromey : I do agree with you. I think it would be a blow for Airbus to loose EI. If Airbus cant keep the customers they currently have how can they expect to
133 Bx737 : ALC is not operated by EI on the A330. Anyway the news about ALC and the other two Polish routes is old news. Its so old in fact that the routes are a
134 Shamrock350 : Not unless Cork get the ability to handle the A330 properly. Currently A330s at Cork have turning issues which put too much stress on the gear. Runwa
135 BrianDromey : I think even a larger turning circle would do the trick, as a short-medium solution. Bad news on ORK-MAN. It seems to be cancelled after June. Unless
136 Post contains images Rineanna : This really, really is the Aer Lingus FanClub Forum! Everything that's said on this forum is from an EI perspective: FR's every move is interpreted i
137 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Can't say I'm surprised at ORK-MAN not doing that well, it probably has it's best day when Man United are playing EI should really look at Scotland an
138 Toulouse : OMG, you're NOT coming out of the FR aviation closet, are you?? Well of course, we decided that by calling it the "Irish" aviation thread we'd just f
139 Danny : Sorry if that was mentioned already (no time to read through the whole thread) but EI-DUO and EI-DVF are scheduled for delivery on 15 May, just 13 day
140 Post contains images BrianDromey : Nice to see two aircraft being delivered together. Hopefully there will be a few pictures of the pair as they arrive in DUB. I think the general cons
141 OA260 : Ok im gonna get grilled but I booked DUB-ORK today but its for business day trip . I got it for €47.50 all in. Anyway its only 30mins flight!! I mi
142 ThrottleHold : ....and you're surprised that FR told a lie....again?........... FR knows that the EU are going to block their move for EI and most probaably force t
143 Post contains images Rineanna : Yes I am! it's an easier closet to come out of seeming as it has no doors on it to ensure speedy departure.    Yes, Yes, I was only referring to th
144 EISHN : Yes but because of their presence at SNN, they have literally blocked anyone else trying to compete on similar routes. I don't think will return to e
145 Post contains images Eirbus06 : Your not the only Corkonian!
146 Post contains images OA260 : Yeah but I guess 99% of people are proud of their national airline. I guess its just pot luck that the members on here are just EI fans. It could hav
147 BrianDromey : The points you raised are fair enough. The SNN base is a good point, BUT it is again to the expense of choice at SNN, as mentioned by EISHN. Neither
148 Post contains links and images EISHN : I see EI-DAA got the Unicef sticker on its side, change for good. MyAviation.net photo: Photo © Jamie Bacon Its a pity that EI removed its Ryder
149 EISHN : Well, whenever theirs an FR flight, the place just fills up, with 180 passengers leaving, or arriving, plus the people that might drop them off, or p
150 EI321 : speaking of ryanair, where are their maintance facilities located? I know of prestwick, dublin and stanstead?
151 Post contains images Scorp : Howya .. Ah, mine was only one man's opinion. Maybe I just either caught a bad couple, or maybe I was unknowingly rude myself! As far as I knew, FR h
152 Rineanna : Choice is a problem allright. C0 have held their own on the Polish routes, however, so there is hope. In all honesty (putting any FR bias aside), as
153 Post contains images Eirbus06 : Hey scorp, just checked out aerlingus.com for cork - madrid and a good number flights over the next few weeks seem 2/3's full. Although some of the m
154 EISHN : For as much as I dislike flying with FR, I will be the first to admit that they have definately turned things around for SNN, opening many new servic
155 Shamrock330 : Does anyone know if there has been some change in Aer Lingus's codeshare agreement with British Airways? The reason I ask is because I've been looking
156 AerArann : Just talking to some RE staff today. The rumours are true, RE are in deep discussions with Servisair for the transfer of ground operations.
157 Post contains images EI787 : I know - I saw the same thing yesterday on ba.com I'm worried about this - the codeshare is very valuable to both BA and EI. I hope it's just a tempo
158 Post contains images Shamrock330 : Exactly my sentiments. If it is a permanent change then it will undoubtably cost British Airways. I know of NO people who want to cart their luggage
159 Post contains links EI787 : From http://aerlinguscargo.com So the A330 will be daily to AGP. But EI are also going to try and cash in on the lucrative cargo side of things - woul
160 Post contains links and images OA260 : Just found a few nice pics!!!
161 Post contains images BrianDromey : Ive seen this as well at ba.com. Ive been looking for ORK-FCO//MXP-ORK. It gives me the EI codeshare alright, and then proposes I get on the national
162 Smokeyrosco : Not sure about that, at this stage I reckon weather a contract is signed or not EI would have Delivery slots booked as part of an agreement signing t
163 ABC9 : Might I suggest you keep scrolling down through the options - I've connected a fair bit in LHR coming from DUB on EI codeshares and when you go to bo
164 EISHN : Fairly full anyway. My cousin's flight from LGW last November wwas 100% full, but then, there were about 30 rugby players on the flight as well. In O
165 EI787 : I just rang the Gold Circle Club to claim points for a missing flight. While talking to the agent, I told him that I'd be travelling to the US in June
166 Shamrock330 : Although I have no first hand experience with this, I definately remember reading this in the Gold Circle rules. It's a shame really, as there would
167 Post contains images EIDAA : Speaking of low loads, the flight to Toulouse from Dublin last Wednesday was very empty... I was the last on board... 51pax on a 174Y A320! I was the
168 OA260 : From what I understod was that you have to earn 2,400 on EI operated flights on a EI flight number to get to GC. Then once you are Gold Circle you ca
169 Post contains images EI787 : Agh! The reason I picked AA is to bring up the points on my Gold Circle account. Feck's sake! I wish they'd make it more clearer on their website. I
170 OA260 : They use the miles system, so DUB-ORD would get around 3666 miles each way. You need around 20,000 or 25,000 for a reward ticket within Europe.
171 EI787 : Is that not with the AAdvantage? He's talking about flying on AA and earning EI points.
172 Toulouse : Bad to hear (yet it is nice when you ahve such an empty flight, I've had that experience a few times from BOD). Hope loads are doing well on my favou
173 EI787 : Would I be as well to just join the AAadvantage club? Is it worth it? I'll be flying DUB-ORD-OMA-ORD-LGA with AA through June and July. It would be st
174 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : RTE have spelled Qantas wrong on their website http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0503/quantas.html Imagine if they spelt Aer Lingus, "Air Lingus" that w
175 Aer Lingus : try being 1 of 17 pax on an EI A320 to DUS last year in March. great flight! that was the early morning flight. the flight back home the same evening
176 OA260 : Yes go onto aa.com and sign up now . Its still worth it to get something rather than nothing.
177 Toulouse : That is true. Back to Gold Circle, just got my statement and no surprise the incompetent bunch at GC have not logged some points I'm entitled to for
178 EI787 : Yeah there doesn't seem to be one. It says that there is a link on the email statement though. I emailed GC twice and got no reply back. Rang up toda
179 Toulouse : Lots of things about GC are weird! Just sent off the email, will see what happends.
180 OA260 : Ryanair passenger numbers up 19% Ryanair carried 19 per cent more passengers in April with more than 4.1 million seats booked with the carrier. Howeve
181 Post contains images EI787 : Ok took your advice and joined AAdvantage. Flippin Gold Circle
182 ThrottleHold : The Indo did just that a couple of years back. Mind you, I expect nothing better from that rag of a paper.
183 Shamrock330 : I sent two emails from my gmail account last year and never got a reply. To not even get a reply is the height of ignorance. Gold Circle is definatel
184 OA260 : Yeah I was GC for more than 5 years and I left them 4-5 years ago to go to BMI and Ive never looked back. The deals I get with BMI and Star Alliance
185 Post contains images EIDAA : I can't even get to the list of airports - clicking on the "update your details" link under the ticket image does nothing. And yes, of course they di
186 Rineanna : Did they still have 4 FAs?
187 N272WA : My boarding card from WAW to DUB 2 years ago has "AIR" LINGUS written on it....
188 ThrottleHold : The legal minimum number of F/A's to be carried is based on the number of seats in the aircraft, not the amount of pax. 1 F/A is required for every 5
189 BrianDromey : Agreed, GC is an utter disaster. I have recieved prompt replies in the past when using accounts which are not open to the general public. ( @leeds.ac.
190 Kaitak : Additionally, EI used to have a policy, in the old days of the 747s, where there would be a minimum of one cabin crew to operate each exit, i.e. 10 f
191 Philb : Just a minor event in Irish aviation history but T7-FRA a Citation 525 arrived at Kerry today - believed to be the first visit of a San Marino registe
192 Kaitak : I got "Airline Business" in the post today and Enda Corneille is quoted as saying that "we are looking at a number of routes to the US for next year a
193 Post contains images BrianDromey : He dosent say that they will be from DUB tho! There is a possibility of farther routes from SNN, ORK and even the new continental base EI are (were?)
194 Post contains images Kaitak : Fair point, he doesn't, but I don't think they would try new routes to a new US cities from anywhere other than Dublin; i.e. we're talking about new
195 Scorp : No change in the agreement, it's just that BA prefer to sell seats on their own metal rather than give unnecessary revenue to EI, so they try and sel
196 Post contains images OA260 : Funny you say that but from memory on my last EI A330 flight (a good time back) one crew member checked both exits in the middle of the AC as it was
197 Aerarann : Just thinking, theres been no sign of the "bloodbath" MOL predicted about 2 years ago. He couldnt even create a bloodbath on the DUB-ORK route!!!! And
198 EISHN : The last I heard, it was 10 to an A333, and 8 to an A332. Although, I think that this may also have changed recently to 9 and 7 respectively. I don't
199 OA260 : Thanks EISHN , I thought youd like them. Just one thing about RE. I could have spent Eur20 more than it cost me on FR so that wasnt the issue for my
200 Toulouse : Hi Kaitaik, are there definite indications that it's going to be a base in continental Europe rather than the UK? Personnally I think a continental b
201 Kaitak : My understanding (not necessarily correct!) was that it would be on the continent. If it's okay with you, folks, now that we've reached 200, I'll star
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