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Canadian Aviation Thread PT. 1  
User currently offlineAC77W From Canada, joined Apr 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

Yup it's that time there's been lots of threads about Irish and British aviation so i thought i would start one about Canadian aviation
So what's new in Canada some questions to start us off
-What new routes will Air Canada operate?
-What going on at Westjet?
-Anything going to happen with Canjet will they resume operations or will they stay charter?


"Brampton Unicom LRI Radio check" "LRI 5x5 runway 33"
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User currently offlinePacifica From Canada, joined May 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8178 times:

First of all, nice job it's about time our country had its own aviation thread!  Smile

Not too sure about Air Canada but look for them to open up some new international routes in the next 5-10 years as the B787s start to come online.
I've heard reports that WestJet recently increased its orders for B737s, but I'm not too sure on the exact numbers and details. Maybe someone can elaborate? Either way, look for them to add some new flights in the next few years as they recieve the additional lift.

And how about Porter? Anyone heard what's going on with them so far? How are their loads like?
Oh and also, what's up with the Sunwing website? I went to book flights to Orlando for winter break but none of their destinations allow you to book past October 2007. Is this just a case of them not announcing their winter schedule yet?


User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8154 times:

I agree...it's about time for a Canadian Av thread.

AC: I guess the YYZ-LAX-SYD route is off the radar now but with the 77Ws/77Ls, the YVR-SYD route will open up this winter. I expect YVR-CAN to come soon, and both YYZ-PEK/PVG going daily. I wonder if they might negotiate a trilateral deal to permit SQ, KE, and AC to operate SIN-INC-YVR/YYZ with local traffic rights SIN-INC ? I think that's the only way AC goes back to SIN in the near term. As for Europe, I think they have most of the higher yield markets served already, maybe excepting SVO....but that depends on both political and economic considerations. In South America, EZE could go to daily. It will be interesting to see how LIM & BOG develop (going to BOG in September). I can't foresee anything to Africa near-term except the much fantasized about JNB service.

Domestically as more E-jets come in and some AirBi depart, you will likely see some long-thin routes open up: YWG-YHZ being one example. Perhaps direct service YQB -> anywhere in the West.

WS: I think their big problem is where to place all the a/c they have coming. They've tapped most of the domestic markets, excepting YQB which they are looking closely. Can continue to build frequency of course but there's a limit in the Canadian market. Services to primary US destinations has kind of bombed, leaving them with leisure/seasonal markets for the most part. I see more Caribbean services, either under contract to Transat Holidays or on their own, like Bahamas.

Have no idea about Porter. A friend of mine has used them YOW-YTZ a couple of times and was very favourably inclined. I read they are going to try YTZ-YOW/YUL-YHZ for the summer. Apparently they are being blocked from EWR at the moment, and I think that's a big goal for them, perhaps also MDW.

My $ 0.02 .



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8107 times:

We all know AC increased their orders for B787s from 14 to 37.. they reduce their firm order of 2 B772F..

User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8024 times:

Hey.
Displaced Vancouverite living in Dublin the past long while. Nice to see this thread.
I've been reading that a Canada-Ireland bilateral has been signed and according to other postings I have read, comes into place immediatly. But I can't find any more info on it.
The Open Skies between EU and USA was written about nonstop for weeks. The Canadian one ? Silence.
Anyone hear more ?
I'm particularly keen on knowing what an Ireland-Canada treaty could hold for the future. Maybe AC will go year round on YYZ-DUB. Possibly some flights from the Maritimes too (where there is a historical connection between there and Ireland).
I wonder would Zoom think about DUB or SNN or even ORK ? They have an operation out of BFS at the moment.
Could EI return to Canada for the first time in decades (that would be a nice thing to see) ?



Haven't we been here before ?
User currently offlineSalomon From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8002 times:

Thanks for starting this thread!

There is something I wanted to talk about for a while now. Air Canada Jazz has started to hire pilots directly from piloting schools in Canada. This year, they intend to hire 8-12 young pilots (I believe) and send them as co-pilot on dash 8 / CRJ. At my piloting school, students with multi&IFR qualifications had their interviews 2 weeks ago and 4 of them are to go to Toronto for more tests. Only a few Canadians piloting schools are targeted and more pilots are to be hired in the following years.

Jazz will probably introduce lower salaries & benefits as they arent doing all that only to be nice...

Any comments? More info?



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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 7947 times:

Quoting AC747 (Reply 4):
I'm particularly keen on knowing what an Ireland-Canada treaty could hold for the future. Maybe AC will go year round on YYZ-DUB. Possibly some flights from the Maritimes too (where there is a historical connection between there and Ireland).
I wonder would Zoom think about DUB or SNN or even ORK ? They have an operation out of BFS at the moment.
Could EI return to Canada for the first time in decades (that would be a nice thing to see) ?

Wouldn't YYZ-anywhere in Ireland be mostly O&D and largely low-yield ?
I suspect Zoom or Skyservice is what you'll see in terms of Canadian airlines to Ireland year-round,
if that can be sustained. Apparently AC doesn't think it can.



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7924 times:

Quoting AC747 (Reply 4):
Maybe AC will go year round on YYZ-DUB. Possibly some flights from the Maritimes too (where there is a historical connection between there and Ireland).

If it happens (and I certainly would love to see it), YYZ-DUB is where it's at. Don't see any activity from the Maritimes. It took a full scale petition and outcry to reinstate seasonal YYT-LHR on the A319, and a more likely candidate would be YHZ-GLA, which was dropped years ago.



Above and Beyond
User currently offlineLHRGregSE4 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7732 times:

Can anyone please tell me why are the prices to fly INTRA canada soo expensive?? Is it just the lack of competition. A flight from Ottawa to Toronto costs the same as a Flight from LHR to YYZ on LCC. You can even find the atlantic flights cheaper.

User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7722 times:

Quoting LHRGregSE4 (Reply 8):
Can anyone please tell me why are the prices to fly INTRA canada soo expensive?? Is it just the lack of competition. A flight from Ottawa to Toronto costs the same as a Flight from LHR to YYZ on LCC. You can even find the atlantic flights cheaper.

With all due respect, if you can't find a C$250 RT (or cheaper) fare between Ottawa and Toronto these days, you either don't know where to look or have your head stuck up your rear end.

I just picked an AC flight combo at random - for this Wednesday. Depart 7 a.m., return 9:30 p.m., fare C$69 each way, with all taxes, C$218 R/T. Porter is always running some kind of deal that can bring the R/T fare under C$200, all taxes in.

Don't tell me the cheap fares are only on a few flights a day and not necessarily at great times of day, because how many flights are there by any one carrier on any one North Atlantic route? And virtually all transatlantic flights are overnights eastbound which is hardly a desirable time to travel.

[Edited 2007-04-30 17:45:11]

User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7681 times:

As early as tomorrow (May 1st) fare can be purchased on line between YYZ and YOW for $69.00. Bear in mind that AC's load factors have had record highs for the last 3 years, and the outrageous fares quoted above, are due to low availability and last minute booking factors. Every single airline in North America and beyond employs the use of sophisticated yield-management tools to determine fare levels. Due to availability sometimes AC is less than Westjet, sometimes Westjet is less than Porter, etc.

Why are INTRA Canada fares so expensive?? It's been discussed a thousand times.
TAX LEVELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Above and Beyond
User currently offlineCRJpurser From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 76 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7673 times:

Quoting Salomon (Reply 5):
Jazz will probably introduce lower salaries & benefits as they arent doing all that only to be nice...

They have already done that for the new hire pilots. That's why they can't attract new ones with experience, and must now start recruiting out of school.

Currently senior cabin crew make a lot more money then new pilots. The turn-over has greatly increased (people leaving for Mainline AC or WS). They are having to do a lot of hiring (Pilots and cabin crew), not because we are growing, but because of people leaving.


User currently offlineYYZYHZ From Canada, joined May 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7635 times:

With regards to the fares, people seem to forget how LARGE our nation is. I flew YHZ-YYZ-YVR in February for about $636 return, whereas I could have flown YHZ-LHR-MAN for less than $100 more. The routing YHZ-LHR-MAN, was a shorter time span than YHZ-YYZ-YVR, and there was a 2.5 hour layover in LHR!!!!!!! (the layover at YYZ, the ticket I ended up travelling on was only 1 hour).
I had to book my YVR-YYZ ticket separate because I didn't know what day I was returning from YVR, and it was $149+taxes!!!!! To fly pretty much across the country that is cheap. I mean I can often find fares between YYZ-YHZ for $130 with taxes all inclusive, for that I don't mind getting meals and pillows. Fares have not gone up with inflation, so something really does have to give. As a university student, I probably could not have gone to school out of province because I couldn't afford to travel between school and home!

While base fares are cheap, taxes are not, and that explains a lot of the difference between US and Canada fares. That and our airlines were selling airfares at a level that would cover their costs and posting profits, whereas the US carriers were losing money at their bottom barrell fares. I don't mind paying more for a ticket if it will bring long-term stability to the Canadian airline industry. jetsgo $1 fares were clearly not sustainable, and did the industry more harm than good.



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7591 times:

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 2):
I see more Caribbean services, either under contract to Transat Holidays or on their own, like Bahamas.

You didn't forget about us?  wink 

Well yes, expect to see WJ doing flights of it's own to to the the majour centers of The Caribbean including the powerhouses in Cuba, Dominican Republic and Jamaica.

Meanwhile WJ seems to be doing well on it's services to Nassau, daily 73G  bouncy 



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User currently offlineSmashme33 From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7560 times:

Quoting LHRGregSE4 (Reply 8):
Can anyone please tell me why are the prices to fly INTRA canada soo expensive?? Is it just the lack of competition. A flight from Ottawa to Toronto costs the same as a Flight from LHR to YYZ on LCC. You can even find the atlantic flights cheaper.

I'm not sure why, but I find that the price of Canadian departures(intra or otherwise) is usually high. I fly down to the south US(ATL,CLT) quite a bit, and the last 4 out of 5 times I found it much better to just drive to Syracuse and catch the plane there! If I am just flying to ORD or DTW, it is usually better for me to fly from YOW.


User currently offlineAH332 From Algeria, joined Mar 2007, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7539 times:

Hi,

Ottawa born and raised here, so good to see this thread!

Just wanted to say that AC will codeshare with Star Alliance partner LH to ALG twice weekly starting this summer.

This is part of the deal signed by the Algerian and Canadian delegations on July 5, 2006 in Ottawa that allowed for each one of the country's carriers (AC and AH) twice weekly service on the ALG-YUL route. AC decided to codeshare on the route with LH, while AH will bring in their 332s from ALG, with the inaugural flight being on June 15, 2007. Here are the times:

AH 2700 ALG-YUL 330-200 Depart: 15:35 Arrive: 19:55 Tues/Fri
AH 2701 YUL-ALG 330-200 Depart: 21:30 Arrive: 11:10+1 day Tues/Fri

Cheers,
Imad

P.S: Go Senators!!!!  Smile



Bledi Heya Al Djazaeer! // Next Flights: AB MIA-DUS-ORY, AF ORY-MRS-ALG
User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5478 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

How about that Twin Otter, eh...?


What the...?
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

Alright here is a list

YYZ:
-New additional 5 weekly KL 777-200
-BA reduction capacity with BA96/97 going to 3/7 767 from daily. BA98/99 to B744 from B7772. BA92/93 to 767
-OA adding 1/7 A340 nonstop on Sunday
-Air France to daily 744 from A340
-Austrian to daily 767 from 330
-Etihad A340-500 3/7 from A332 via BRU
-UA to DEN u/g B737 from E70
-Air Canada YYZPVG to daily from 3/7. 77ws to LHR/FRA/NRT/PEK...77L to HKG.... xxl of YYZAMS and 2nd YYZCDG.. new YYZ-YDF service
-WestJet services to NAS/YFC and YDF
-TS new services to BCN/VIE via YUL

YVR:
-AC service to SMF
-Oasis to HKG 4/7
-CX continues 3/7 additonal A340-300 (overnights in YVR, nice!)
-2nd YVRPEK AC

YUL:
-Air Algerie new service 2/7 A330-200
-Royal Jordanian new service 2/7 A340-200
-Egyptair to A340-200 from B777-200
-BA cancels extra BA44/45 3/7 trip
-Air Canada new daily FCO service
-TS new services to BCN/AGP/VIE
-MX to 319 from B757
-NW CRj900 to MSP!
-WS new service to YEG, YYG and YHZ


YYC:
-6/7 BA B777

Feel free to continue the list


User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

Not really up on what these guys are doing, but what's happening with:

Canadian North
Air North
Hawkair
Air Tindi
First Air ??

I know Pacific Coastal has taken some Saab 340s (A's, I believe) into service to replace the Skyvans.
And some time ago I read that First Air were looking at a 767-200, probably converted to F, for the
main part of resupply/freighting work in the North, probably ex-YUL to Iqaluit, Rankin Inlet, Yellowknife,
Inuvik and maybe Resolute. The have replaced their 727 stubbies with 737-200Cs.
Rode in the stubby many years ago YYZ-PLS (Provo), a/c was ex Lloyd Aero Boliviano, I think. All
the seatback instructions were in SPanish ! One thing that stands out is that the in-flight meal was, for
a charter, probably the best one I ever had.



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7309 times:

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 18):
And some time ago I read that First Air were looking at a 767-200, probably converted to F, for the
main part of resupply/freighting work in the North, probably ex-YUL to Iqaluit, Rankin Inlet, Yellowknife,
Inuvik and maybe Resolute.

If 7F ever get a 762F or 757F (the more likely of the two types) it will be to replace the 722s on the YOW-YVO-YVP-YFB food-mail contract. There is no way a 767 could operate from Resolute - gravel runway. 7F have recently added a second Herc, another 'new' all-pax 732 and a 'new' all-pax ATR to their fleet.

5T are launching Dash 8 routes in the western arctic to compete with 7F's ATRs to Kugluktuk, Gjoa Haven, Taloyoak and Kugaaruk and to bring their YCB services up to daily.

I can see Zoom a summer or two down the road launching services to DUB now that open skies is in place.


User currently offlineYULspotter From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7255 times:

Hello.

I agree that there should be a Canadian aviation thread on A.net. I had the same idea and I had started one a few months ago but it fizzled out after about 81 posts. Here's the link: RE: How's It Going Eh? The Canadian Aviation Thread (by NorthStarDC4M Jan 22 2007 in Civil Aviation)

I hope we can keep this one going longer. After all, if Peter Max can get to thread Part VI then I'm sure us Canadians can find enough to talk about. What is it with Peter Max anyway? All the discussions around this name amazes me.

Anyway, back to Canadian aviation.

AC's second 777 (C-FITU) was aparently delivered today. It arrived in YUL in the late afternoon. Not sure if she will be doing some YUL-YYZ runs like her sister ship (C-FITL). Can anyone confirm?

Not sure if this is news to some but Zoom has recently acquired a 757 from Harmony (old reg. #C-GTSN).
It has been undergoing maintenance at YMX. I believe she is already in Zoom colours and this new a/c is not surprisingly named "City of Montreal". I'm sure pictures of it will show up on here soon.

I have heard that some of the possible routes for the 757 are:
YYZ-YHZ-CDG
YYZ-GEO
YYZ-POS
YYZ-BFS-GLA
YUL-CDG

Can't wait to see a 752 in Zoom colours.

YULspotter


User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4416 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7254 times:

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 6):
Wouldn't YYZ-anywhere in Ireland be mostly O&D and largely low-yield ?
I suspect Zoom or Skyservice is what you'll see in terms of Canadian airlines to Ireland year-round,
if that can be sustained. Apparently AC doesn't think it can.

First I would like to say that it is nice to see a Canadian thread here thanks for starting it. I would think that Zoom or Skyservice would be the most likely of the Canadian airlines to go to Ireland as the traffic would mainly be holiday travelers and AC has a more business focus which although there is I am sure a lot of business traffic to be tapped into by the airlines, Ireland will remain a holiday destination first and foremost.



Rush for ever; Yankees all the way!!
User currently offlineAC77W From Canada, joined Apr 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7250 times:

What's up with zoom starting destinations to JFK and Bermuda although it would be kinda nice to connect through Bermuda if going across the pond


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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7231 times:

So whats the status of Westjet joining Oneworld? Whats happening with AC opening a new destination to CAN?


Air Canada declares the skies open for business
New Flight Pass for Business provides for up to 25 people, 100 trips

MONTREAL, April 27 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada introduced today a better
way for business travellers to fly with the Flight Pass for Business. The new
pass is ideal for any-sized company looking to better manage travel and make
flying more convenient for employees.
"The Flight Pass for Business is designed for companies of any size, from
small to large. Whether a firm has a few people flying a lot, many people
flying occasionally, or any mix of flying in between, the Flight Pass for
Business simplifies a company's travel management process while making it easy
for employees to fly," said Marc Rosenberg, Vice President, Sales and Product
Distribution at Air Canada. "Travellers have already flown more than one
million trips using Air Canada's flight passes, taking advantage of the
flexibility, simplicity and convenience that our passes offer."
The Flight Pass for Business allows up to 25 people to fly 100 trips over
a 12-month period. The new pass is designed to give a business cost certainty
and maximum flexibility, coming in either the Latitude or Tango Plus fare
category and offering the ability to track usage in real time online.
Companies can choose from ten different geographic travel zones covering all
or parts of Canada and continental U.S.A. and the pass provides the option of
paying in a single up-front payment or in quarterly instalments.
The Flight Pass for Business is the latest addition to Air Canada's
growing suite of multi-trip Flight Passes available at www.aircanada.com or
for travel agents at www.aircanada.com/agents. Customers can learn more about
how to select and use Flight Passes by taking a Virtual Flight Pass Tour at
aircanada.com.
Air Canada is the only airline that offers its customers multi-trip
Flight Passes which provide the convenience to self-manage travel online,
either in the form of pre-purchased banks of flight credits or fixed monthly
subscription rates that provide for unlimited flights.
Air Canada offers a wide range of Flight Passes including the
'North America Pass' with a choice of eight travel zones in Canada and between
Canada and the US, the unlimited 'Flight Pass to Canada' in the U.S., the
'London Pass', the carrier's first pass for international travel, and the 'Oil
Express Pass' designed specifically for oil patch workers in Northern Alberta
travelling for work and leisure. Other Flight Passes offered for frequent
travellers include the popular 'Rapidair Pass,' valid on the carrier's
frequent shuttle services between Toronto-Montreal and Toronto-Ottawa, and the
'Western Commuter' pass for travel between key B.C. and Alberta cities. The
airline also offers leisure passes for sun seekers, including 'Sun Pass East',
'Sun Pass West', and 'Hawaii Pass'.

Air Canada expands year-round service to Florida
Fort Myers flights increase choice and convenience for travel to U.S.A.

MONTREAL, May 1 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada announced today it is expanding
its service to Florida and giving customers more options for travel to the
U.S. by adding a year-round, non-stop weekly flight between Toronto and Fort
Myers starting June 16, 2007.
"Air Canada is already the leading airline in the trans-border market,
flying more often between Canada and the U.S. than any other carrier. We are
further consolidating that position by adding a year-round, weekly service
between Toronto and Fort Myers, Florida, a popular destination for Canadian
travellers," said Daniel Shurz, Vice-President Network Planning. "With our new
Embraer aircraft we are able to expand the number of transborder destinations
we fly while offering our passengers unrivalled comfort and convenience,
including personalized audio and video entertainment at every seat."
Air Canada flight AC934 will depart Toronto each Saturday at 9 am and
arrive in Fort Myers at 12:10 p.m. The aircraft will then return, leaving Fort
Myers at 12:50 pm and arriving in Toronto at 3:55 pm. Flights will be operated
using a 73-seat Embraer E175 which features both Executive and Economy class
service and seatback personal entertainment systems at every seat.
Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz operate more non-stop flights within
Canada and to the United States than any other airline. Between Canada and the
United States, the carriers operate more than 435 non-stop flights per day on
81 routes to and from 51 U.S. and seven Canadian destinations.


User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7173 times:

Hey the GSM flights to and from YHM Started today I was there for the first arrival from MAN and I tell you what a sight it was. eventually there were 2 Globespan 757s together as well as 2 westjet 737s and a Jazz DH8 and a Jazz CRJ.

I know its not YYZ but its was still great. Good loads today too Smile.



Where will you spend eternity? He,s more real then you think!!!!!
25 Post contains images Salomon : There you go! City of montreal![Edited 2007-05-02 06:14:59]
26 Fly_yhm : Doesn't come up.
27 Aviationman : YUL: -JetX new weekly service to KEF starting May 17th -Sunwing new weekly domestic service to YYZ and YVR starting this summer -Porter twice daily se
28 Aviationman : YQB: -New CO weekly service to Cleveland on Sundays starting in June
29 YOW : At YOW: Just recently: A new 5th daily UA to ORD started about a week ago on a CR7 (3x CR7, 2x E70) - all UA flights switch to E70 in the summer = a b
30 CanadianNorth : YXY news: - Air North's B737-200Adv C-GJLB got the eyebrow mod - Air North's other 737, NAU, has lost the blue tail (ex Royal) and now has an orange t
31 YVRLTN : Shorts 360's actually - and these are actually some of the oldest Saab's out there - two of them are only a year newer than the Shorts. Pasco were re
32 FCAFLYBOY : Zoom UK (UKZ) is a separate operation from Zoom Canada, although of course part of the family. The flights you have mentioned will not connect to Can
33 Post contains images MD90fan : Yesterday, following the FNM party winning the Bahamian elections they announced that they had concluded a sale of Bahamasair to Air Canada. While I h
34 VonRichtofen : What is the hold up with YVR-CAN again? Transport Canada?
35 ACDC8 : Don't know if this is really news worthy of this thread, but it could be something of an interesting discussion. TS is offering flights from YVR-AMS f
36 Post contains links and images WestJetYQQ : I have been so close to starting this for a while! So then there is the chance of a new startup operation from at large Canadian hub, which hasn't ha
37 Post contains images Jamesontheroad : It had better say 'Ville de Montréal' on the other side... *j*
38 YOW : I'm sure Horizon are also looking closely at YCD, considering half of YQQ's traffic comes from Nanaimo-area residents. Highly unlikely this will happ
39 ReidYYZ : I saw it in YYZ the last couple of days, parked, and it looks really sharp. The engine inlet lip, slats, engine exhaust tip and even the apu exhaust
40 OceansWorld : I can see the French speaking citizen there. Keep that way. Can't give that answer, but C-GTSN has had a long career already, mostly Canadian: Odysse
41 Salomon : Yep, thats it. Zoom's maintenance (forgot the name) rent the old Air Transat hangar in YMX for heavy maintenance. I have no idea what is next.
42 YYZYYT : I thought they were up and running as a charter already... can anyone corrrect me on that? Also, how is the new AC service from YYT-LHR on the A319?
43 YOW : I think AC77W means will CanJet ever resume sked ops. They'd still be flying skeds if they hadn't been so obsessed with taking AC & WS head-on, espec
44 YYZYYT : Ah, right you are. that's what happens when I don't read the entire post... or the entire sentence. Surely there was never any possibility of Canjet
45 Post contains images WestJetYQQ : I wouldn't think so. YCD is fairly constricted for commercial services. I don't think Nanaimo has a proper customs agency on site, and the terminal o
46 Greasespot : Nope...Here is the break down Retired 1 727-100 from alaska air(gone) C-GFRB 1-727-100 from africa(gone C-GVFA 1-727-100 crom Corp air who got it fro
47 BWIA 772 : Hi guys I just wanted to know if Caribbean Airlines A340 9Y TJN ex AC C FTNP has arrived at AC maintenance for her D check and re configuration for AR
48 Pacifica : While this thread's still going strong, maybe someone can give an update on how the Region of Waterloo Airport (YKF) is doing. I know they just recent
49 WYG737LVR : I would love to see more options to BGI, but how about from Western Canada! Right now if you are from Western Canada, and want to fly a Canadian Airli
50 Post contains links JoeCanuck : I stumbled upon this yesterday on AirlineCrew.net. I'm sure many of you have seen it. I thought it was amusing. It's worth watching. There are 6 parts
51 Post contains images MD90fan : Not true. Most of the time AC sends A319/A320s to Barbados. Speaking on behalf of the Caribbean,pretty much any airport would welcome new service to
52 WYG737LVR : To clarify MD, I was referring from YWG not YYZ. Only AC's widebodies have the range to make it from anywhere in Western Canada (Manitoba, Saskatchew
53 BWIA 772 : Actually BGI sees the 767 daily with the A319 doing 2 additional services on thursday and saturday IIRC.
54 MD90fan : Look at Amades.net, it's showing AC 966 with the Airbus A319. Maybe summer it's 76S, but I was referring to right now.
55 FLYACYYZ : The winter service from YYZ includes 8 weekly frequencies. Daily 767 and twice weekly 319. Throughout the summer season it's a daily 319.
56 Post contains links Fallingeese : This fits in here nicely... Calm Air has added two ATR-42's. The airplanes look great, as you can see in the photo below: http://www.contrailsphotogra
57 OceansWorld : C-GTSN has flown to Glasgow yesterday.
58 CanadianNorth : An interesting thing I discovered today in the new Air North inflight mag... "As we enter our fourth decade, we are planning for the longterm. We are
59 Post contains links Easyas321 : Does anyone the seating config ? Doesn't seem to be on Zoom website yet ? The 752 has been operating in & out of Belfast, which is obviously a thin r
60 Twizzler : The present config gives 32" in econ and 36" in premium. Pretty good for a 57 across the pond IMO. Belfast has been a great market for Zoom. The 57 a
61 YOW : Absolutely regarding WS and the 5,000 foot runway doesn't work either. But for Horzion, their Dash 8s could easily be fit into YCD. Since Jazz flight
62 Post contains links and images Rikkus67 : Fallingeese... Nice to see Calm Air ATR-42's still using a version of the Canadi>n Regional scheme. Together with Pacific Coastal, it's nice to be abl
63 YOW : I believe the ex-Royal tail has now been re-painted into standard Air North colours. 5T had the sole 'Proud Wings' 737 still flying around and 'Canad
64 ReidYYZ : The TS mother ship is looking to expand (buy into) U.S. and the latest: they've narrowed the fleet renewal to, drum roll please: A or B. I still put m
65 Easyas321 : So how many seats in each class in 752 ?
66 YOW : I read an article yesterday where it stated Porter has started generating positive cash flow, so the loads must be continuing to increase. Zoom's loa
67 ReidYYZ : YOW, thanks. In an effort to keep this thread alive, where is Michel Leblanc these days and who is he rotting out of cash this time?
68 Post contains images CanadianNorth : Air North's ex-royal 737 is C-GNAU. It currently looks like this: "Standard Air North colours" are kind of lost right now, as almost every aircraft c
69 Falcon7x : Dont forget that YEG-LHR is now daily as of April 1st,and is doing well from what is being said by a AC employee in another forum. -Westcan Int'l take
70 CayMan : This must cannibalize a bit of the (admittedly robust) business on YYC LHR? Although YYC LHR is no doubt doing extremely well on its own given econom
71 JetCaptain : WestCan International ? Who/What is this company ? JC
72 Post contains images Radarbeam : Could it be these guys? From 411.ca
73 Flyb : Wonder how well there do, there website isn't even up? (westcan that is) Numbers out of YEG for the month of April continue the 18+% growth, with tran
74 SLCUT2777 : As for YEG, will DL up the number of OO flights on CRJs to SLC? The two they have are almost always packed full. DL does suffer now from the lack of
75 Flyb : I would rather see them upgrade this flight to a Crj700/900. I avoid Delta right now because of the 100' series. I don't know why Delta isn't upgradi
76 Post contains images MD90fan : What's the latest on them to The Caribbean? They started service to NAS which was greatly appreciated since they ended the AC monopoly Any news on Ca
77 SLCUT2777 : YYC is effectively going to at least 1 CRJ-7 effective next month, but they really do need at least one mainline flight on DL to SLC. This especially
78 Post contains images YOW : Wow a jet to replace the Hawkers? How will that work given Old Crow's runway is gravel? What about Dawson City's runway? That's a photo of the ex-Fir
79 BWIA330 : What is the Air Transat fleet renewal plans? Does anyone have any ideas as to what it might be? Regards, BWIA330
80 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : Yip! My typo! I'll admit to being dyslexic! LOL!
81 Flyb : YEG and YYC are both filling seats faster than the airlines can keep up. I just flew to ORD from YEG and the only way for me to get there was via YYC,
82 Aviationman : Winter 2007/2208: Additional non stop services from YUL to: UVF PLS Plus additional frequency to: MBJ (total of three/weekly)
83 Falcon7x : Sunwing also add's YEG-YYZ this summer with 738's,YYC-YYZ is there also.Westcan is a pure freight airline using a 727F.The website will launch the day
84 WestJetYQQ : What the.......... Where does the orange tail come from? When did Air North plug this bird's eyebrows? That's not something I expected to see by this
85 WestJetYQQ : Now...........I'm gonna get in trouble for this........ When did sunwing spring up? I had never heard of this airline until this thread. I thought WS
86 Post contains links MotorHussy : And as no-one else appears to have mentioned it, NZ commences seasonal flights (direct and non-stop) from AKL to YVR thrice weekly this coming Novembe
87 Olympus69 : I don't have complete details, but Sunwing was a tour company using Skyservice 752s. Last summer they decided to become an Airline - serving Caribbea
88 CanadianNorth : Paint: Last summer Air North aquired a 4th HS748, CSE. Instead of painting it like the other three (YDU, YDY and AGI), they decided to do something n
89 Post contains links and images YVRLTN : Im not sure about the Kelowna Flightcraft bit - they sure dont have any 737's of any series of their own, just 727's and its news to me if they've re
90 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : Probably from eastern Canada since I think the charters will rule western Canada for some time to come on Caribbean service, but mostly during the wi
91 JoeCanuck : I'm surprised the 738 has the eyebrow windows. I thought they did away with them before the NG series. The things you learn, eh...? On another point,
92 Aviationman : With Air Canada
93 Post contains images CanadianNorth : Should set you up with my dad, he worked for PWA for several years ahh, the old 737-200 Combis, goot memories, did the same thing on Canadian North w
94 Transair737 : On what routes with Calm Air be using the ATR's? Are they expanding or just getting rid of the old Hawkers? Is the ATR a capable aircraft to fly in th
95 YOW : It sure is. First Air's ATR fleet is very well-received by their pax. Yeah I wonder if this is the end for the Calm Air 748s?
96 Post contains images MD90fan : Of course, not to mention there isn't much demand from Western Canada-Caribbean, besides a few D.R flights. The Canadians in the Western (from what I
97 Post contains images FighterPilot : Hey All, Seeing I will be attending school in YAM this fall does anyone have any info about anything new or exciting coming there? Cal
98 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : Hawaii and Mexico are very popular from provinces like B.C. and Alberta. Hawaii however lost large numbers to the Dominican Republic when the Canadia
99 Aviationman : No, Sunwing is also adding Cozumel and Havana.
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