MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 50 Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11619 times:
You know, I used to not really like the MD-80 all that much back when we still had the 727's flying all over the place. I always thought of the M80 as a poor man's 727. Two engines, not three. Two pilots, not three. 2+3 seating, not 3+3 seating....and so on, and so forth. Obviously, the idea of efficiency was not at the forefront of a 15 year olds mind back in the day. It just never quite measured up to the 727, which, when it was flying, I would go out of my way to fly on...a marvelous plane. I have about 32 flights on 727-200's under my belt, and i'm very proud of that fact, since it's unlikely I'll get anymore. But now, seeing how there are so many 737's and A320's flying around....great planes to be certain, but hardly original from the exterior...I have come to appreciate the MD-80 and its legacy more and more over the past few years. No, it doesn't feature all of the creature comforts of the new 737/320 series aircraft...some people downright loathe the idea of flying one on a 4.5 hour semi transcon from ORD to SFO...but there's just something about the sound of those P&W's spooling up on the takeoff roll. It just sounds like a classic airliner, and it has the looks to match. Thankfully we'll still see it in service for the next decade at least thanks to the large M80 series fleet of AA and DL. But you know all good things come to an end, so we might as well appreciate the aircraft while they are here. The M80 has built itself a pretty decent legacy since it entered airline service nearly 27 years ago. I salute you, MD-80. Thanks for the 41 excellent flights so far, and I look forward to more.
Here are a few pics from an AAmazing MD-80 flight in April, '06:
I've flown on MD-80's with the following air carriers:
I don't think there's a plane I'd rather fly than one of AA's MD-80s. Clean, comfortable and so quiet if you manage to get up front. That's one of the things I miss most about switching my flying from AA to CO. It's nice to know they'll be around for another decade or so, at least, but I'm going to miss them when they're all gone.
New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2164 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 11552 times:
That was a great post. I took the MD-80 series for granted as well when the 727 was around in masses, but I have grown more fond of it since. I have taken AA MD-80's to virtually everywhere from ORD, as far as SEA, with along with SFO and LAX may be some of the longest MD-80 flights out there.
MSYtristar, as a side note the AA pic of N290AA was the last one I flew this March, TUS-ORD.
Jaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 11508 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter): No, it doesn't feature all of the creature comforts of the new 737/320 series aircraft
I actually find it more comfortable to fly on the MD-80 rather than a 737/A320. Granted each time I have sat in the 2 seat part of the row rather then the 3 part, but I absolutely love having either the window or the aisle and having 1/2 the chance of getting the middle seat as I would in a 737/A320.
Columba From Germany, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6991 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11214 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter): But now, seeing how there are so many 737's and A320's flying around....great planes to be certain, but hardly original from the exterior...I have come to appreciate the MD-80 and its legacy more and more over the past few years.
I agree with you on that. In Germany I hardly see any MD 80s anymore but being here in the New York, New Jersey area I see plenty of DL and AA aircraft on their approach to Newark and La Guardia and it makes me feel really great to see the long T-Tail cruising the sky.
But so far my best sightings since I am here were the Fedex Dc MD 10s on approach to EWR and the other day I was very thrilled to see an UPS Dc 8 !!!
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
TAN FLYR From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1878 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11151 times:
I'll have to agree..I really like the MD-80..Yup I also used to perceive themm as a poor mans 727..until the day I found out the degree of cost savings of the MD-80 over the 727 on an average 3 hr flight..No wonder they went to the boneyard so fast after 9-11.
Yup, the 727 was the workhorse of her day..and her days lasted almost 40 years..But the dynamic twin from Long beach has the new title (along with the 737).
By the time the last ones are ever off the active roster at say AA, the MD-80 will have a 40 year run also..bet on it..any they will live on for years in second / third tier service. (see DC-8 longevity)
PITPirate From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11147 times:
What a great aircraft the MD-80 -- I agree, when you sit in the rear and hear those engines, it really feels like you have some thrust & power underneath of you, not so much on the newer 737/A320 -- Long May She Soar. (My 1st. post -- long time reader of the forums, finally decided to break down & join)
UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11117 times:
I actually prefer to sit in the front of the cabin, or as close to the front as possible. Not that I don't like hearing the engines, but the MD-80 has a really awesome feel up there. It's SOOOO quiet on take off, barely any engine noise at all and you sort of here this low wooooosh and you are pushed back into your seat as the plane takes off, again with hardly any noise. It reminds a lot of doing a full throttle onto the interstate in a Lexus LS430. Those cars have a lot of power, however you hardly hear the engine.
But as for the MD-80 as a whole, I love the bird. They definitely beat anyones 737-200/300/400/500 series and well, I just think that airbus narrowbodies are fugly. But, I do have to say that the NG 737's are pretty nice and hard to beat. Especially with those great winglets.
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8035 posts, RR: 25 Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10822 times:
They're good to fly on, but the bins are by far the worst out there and they're broken more than any other airplane in our fleet. Cool airplanes, they make alot of noise, and the front cabin is quiet, but it really is one of the more unreliable airplanes out there.
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2164 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10741 times:
One of the great things about the MD-80 series is the powerful and steep take-off. Compared to the 727, it takes off like a rocket. The best part of the flight.
Quoting Flyorski (Reply 16): AA does need to do some cabin work on them, the interiors have remained unchanged for a while now.
I think AA re-did the cabins of a portion of the fleet in the late 90's - early 2000's. I find the cabins to be much more comfortable than the AA 757's, which don't have a headrest. I have been on a couple of the oldest MD-82's that were built in '83, and I will admit the cabins were a bit tired.
Quoting N766UA (Reply 17): it really is one of the more unreliable airplanes out there.
Interestingly enough, I have never had a delay on an MD-80 because the aircraft went mechanical. Conversely, it's happened to me on both the A320 and 737NG.
PGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2628 posts, RR: 45 Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10719 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter): No, it doesn't feature all of the creature comforts of the new 737/320 series aircraft
I think it's more comfortable, and I really like the odds for avoiding a middle seat!
Quoting N766UA (Reply 17): They're good to fly on, but the bins are by far the worst out there and they're broken more than any other airplane in our fleet. Cool airplanes, they make alot of noise, and the front cabin is quiet, but it really is one of the more unreliable airplanes out there.
Have to disagree on the reliability. They are at or near the top of the reliability stats consistently at my airline. They get minor stuff deferred on them at a lot of carriers because they work so hard with short turn times and MX never has time to fix them.
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 18): Interestingly enough, I have never had a delay on an MD-80 because the aircraft went mechanical. Conversely, it's happened to me on both the A320 and 737NG.
I've had MX delays on all three but with over 10,000 hours in the DC-9/MD-80 family, I can say that it rarely breaks hard, and when it does it's normally a relatively quick fix. (Exceptions are hydraulics, sometimes, and flight controls...the slat actuation drum is a pain for MX to work on, but the techs on here can tell you more about that!)
The MD is a great plane which is frequently underestimated. Like the A-320 there's a lot of misinformation out here about the MD, but in my acquaintance, it's a great airplane, and I expect to spend a few thousand more hours in it before they go away.
Asturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 1980 posts, RR: 16 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10583 times:
I adore the MD80s
One of the nicest design out there and really tough machines. No high-tech wizardry aboard, the CD9 legacy in full life. Comfortable to fly on short sub 2 hr flights and really quiet when sitting in the front.
Quoting PGNCS (Reply 19): with over 10,000 hours in the DC-9/MD-80 family, I can say that it rarely breaks hard, and when it does it's normally a relatively quick fix.
I've suffered only two mechanical delays, both on MD-80s, and in both cases it took much longer for the tech to get to the plane than it did for him to fix the plane once he was there.
(Although I didn't see either tech at work, I imagine the "fixes" consisted of a few well-placed whacks from the handle of a screwdriver followed by a satisfying "thunk-hmmmmmmm..." from the recalcitrant machinery and then the tech buttoning up the access plate and saying "There. Good as new".
Honestly, in both cases the fixes were that fast.)
Able to kill active threads stone dead with a single post!
BeechNut From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 10480 times:
Well, let's just roll things back a bit. An MD-80, by any other name, is a DC-9. In fact the MD81, 82 and 83 are listed as DC-9-81, -82 and -83 on the type certificate (not sure about the -87, the MD88 is an MD88 on the TC if I recall).
So when one lauds the MD80, one in fact is lauding one of the finest designs out there, certainly the finest ever from McDonnell-Douglas, the DC-9. If you count the 717, which really was a DC-9, this aircraft had a production run lasting nearly 40 years. It so far appears only one aircraft will surpass that, the 747, which will be 40 in 2009.
Well not even the DC-3 can claim that. In fact the entire production life of the DC-9 surpasses the DC-3's service life in mainline service (first DC-3: 1936...how many were in mainline service in 1976? Zero). Surely, if ever there was a DC-3 of the Jet Age, the DC-9, up to and including the MD80 and 717 series, is it. A twin, go anywhere, make money machine. The oldest airframes in mainline service would have to be NWs DC-9s. A truly great aircraft by all measures, and in legendary MD fashion, built like a tank.
And as great a machine as the 727 was, let's face it, the DC-9/MD-80 has outlived it. Simply due to better economics.
25 Falstaff: I would agree. I flew on a 39 year old NW DC-9-40 a few weeks ago and I think NW has a DC-9 or two built in 1967. If there are DC-9s still flying at
26 Delta787: The MD-80 is a great plane. Its quiet and the lack of middle seat on the one side is great. I will miss it when it is gone from Delta's fleet.
27 CV990: Hi! First time I flew in a MD80 or at that time DC-9-80 was in September 1981 from LIS to GVA with Swissair. At that time the Super 80 was starting to
28 Tancrede: I must be honest with myself, as a hardcore Airbus fan, and admit that I really do love to fly with the MD-90 (ok, it is not a MD-80, but same family)
29 TrijetsRMissed: I don't think the MD-87 was ever a "DC-9" as it was introduced a few years after McDonnell Douglas went with the "MD" moniker and the first with the