Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Can Anyone Identify This Airplane And Operator?  
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3646 times:

Can anyone identify this aircraft: http://airlinersgallery.blogspot.com...n741as-ferries-to-new-african.html ?

Quote:
Alaska Airlines (Seattle/Tacoma) operated the last Boeing 737-200 flight with 737-2Q8C N741AS (msn 21959) on March 29, 2007. It passed through Shannon on April 28-29 operated by Bionic Aviation of South Africa. It routed from Victorville to Rockford, Goose Bay, Keflavik, Shannon and Lisbon headed for a new operator in Nigeria.

And what seems to be fixed to the front wheel?

11 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

On the nose tire is a gravel Kit.........

[Edited 2007-04-30 12:30:34]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

To be more specific:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Bionic Aviation of South Africa

Never heard of... More info would be appreciated.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
new operator in Nigeria

Which new operator? How are they related to Bionic Aviation?

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
N741AS

Will it be re-registered?

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
It still has the gravel kit!

Where is a gravel kit used for? Never saw one before.

[Edited 2007-04-30 12:36:19]

User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
operated by Bionic Aviation of South Africa.

According to sources at SNN the aircraft was operated on its ferry flight by CSDS Aircraft Sales and Leasing Inc with whom it is registered with the FAA. Delivery is to Bionic Aviation.


User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 996 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Quoting ENU (Reply 2):
Where is a gravel kit used for? Never saw one before.

When landing on a gravel runway, it keeps stones from bouncing up into the engines. Used for remote airstrips in Alaska, and Canada initially, but now is also used in some Africa operations.



"None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsly believe they are free" -Goethe
User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

BTW it is cheaper to leave gravel kits in situ than it is to remove them There are no real operating penalties involved.

User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3443 times:

Hi!

Just to clear out a bit, TAAG from Angola have been using their 737-200's with gravel kits since at least 32 years ago!!! Take a look to this photo of D2-TAA ready to be delivered to TAAG in 1975!!!


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bob Harrington - Bobqat Photographs



Ethiopian Airlines also used their 737-200's with that kit.
Regards


User currently offlineA380Heavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3413 times:

Quoting CV990 (Reply 6):
Just to clear out a bit, TAAG from Angola have been using their 737-200's with gravel kits since at least 32 years ago!!! Take a look to this photo of D2-TAA ready to be delivered to TAAG in 1975!!!

Is it just me or can anybody else not see a gravel kit fitted to the nosewheel assembly of the 732 in the photo?

A380Heavy



Flown in:732,733,734,738,742,752,763,772,F27,DC9,MD-11,A300,A332,ATR72,DHC-6,Bell206,C172,Auster,PA-28
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3362 times:

Quoting CV990 (Reply 6):
Just to clear out a bit, TAAG from Angola have been using their 737-200's with gravel kits since at least 32 years ago!!! Take a look to this photo of D2-TAA ready to be delivered to TAAG in 1975!!!

Well, maybe not that exact airplane, since it only served in the TAAG fleet for 5 years before crashing in November 1980.

At first it was thought the aircraft could be saved after landing short and having the landing gear fail off the runway at BUG - Benguela, Angola.
The major damage was confined to a fire in the right engine and wing.

TAAG fully intended for this aircraft to return to service, but the recovery crew destroyed the aircraft beyond economical repair during the removal process, rendering it a Write-Off.

I'll bet the insurance company made out like bandits though....since it was just a 5 year old frame, virtually everything beyond the right gear/wing/engine could be stripped off and sold, the sum of the parts here being worth more than the whole.



Delete this User
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

Thanks for the clarifying replies!

Just a two more questions:
- Did Alaska airlines operate this B737 as a freighter or as a combi? You can see a cargo door on the picture.
- What is the function of the upside-down T-formed projection underneath (front side) the engines?

The website of Bionic Aviation does not provide more information: http://www.bionicaviation.com/index.html

As for supposed Nigerian operator, I first thought of Allied Air, because of the resemblance in the tail logo. But overall scheme is quite different: http://www.alliedaircargo.com/index.html .
It could very well be destined for a new operator or a private owner. Time will tell.


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

Quoting CV990 (Reply 6):

Quoting A380Heavy (Reply 7):


Quoting ENU (Reply 9):
What is the function of the upside-down T-formed projection underneath (front side) the engines?

The gravel kit is more than just the additional kit around the nosewheel.

On the engines, fitted to the lower part of the intake, are vortex dissipators. These can be seen on the TAAG a/c (and the Bionic Aviation 737 too)

[Edited 2007-04-30 23:08:35]


I don't like signatures...
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25843 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 10):
Quoting ENU (Reply 9):
What is the function of the upside-down T-formed projection underneath (front side) the engines?

The gravel kit is more than just the additional kit around the nosewheel.

On the engines, fitted to the lower part of the intake, are vortex dissipators. These can be seen on the TAAG a/c (and the Bionic Aviation 737 too)

They blow engine bleed air down and forward to reduce the chance of gravel and debris being ingested into the engines. The gravel runway equipment for the 732C also included heavy-duty brakes and main landing gear, low pressure tires, special paint on the lower fuselage to resist stone chips/damage, a retractable rotating beacon on the lower fuselage and a few other modifications.


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Can Anyone Identify This Plane/Airline? posted Tue Oct 4 2005 17:21:30 by Sabena332
Can Anyone Identify This Plane? posted Wed Mar 23 2005 00:53:22 by Yanksn4
Can Anyone Identify This Aircraft? posted Sun Jan 23 2005 05:25:50 by FrontierCPT
Can Anyone Identify This A/c? posted Sun Dec 5 2004 16:42:41 by JetBlast
Can Anyone Identify This Plane? posted Mon Dec 22 2003 11:38:32 by GulfstreamGuy
Can Anyone Identify This Royal Airlines Aircraft? posted Fri Feb 8 2002 23:43:17 by Gmonney
Can Anyone Identify This Airline posted Tue Nov 20 2001 15:38:40 by Daks
Can Anyone Identify The Reg Of This TG A300? posted Thu Jul 24 2003 22:42:21 by ZSSNC
Can Anybody Identify This Helicopter? posted Wed Nov 22 2006 09:28:56 by Spetouss
Can Someone Identify This Plane At SCL? posted Tue Nov 21 2006 20:14:42 by Eastern023