1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6248 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5905 times:
A 787 order is definately likely. I woud expect it to be ordered at least in the fall. We could also see some more 777-200LRs or maybe even some 777-300ERs ordered. A new 100-seater may also be possible, with either the Embraer 190 or 195 being the most likely candidates. Delta has stated that any new 100-seat aircraft would be operated as mainline, not as Delta Connection. I don't see Delta ordering the 737-600 as its operating costs are barely any lower than the 737-700, and the CRJ-1000 is a niche aircraft.
The Pink Delta 767-400ER - The most beautiful aircraft in the sky
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6696 posts, RR: 18 Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5854 times:
I see the 787 order forthcoming.. more 777... look for hte E90/E95..
as for routes.. ATL will remain king.. SLC will grow.. CVG will probably exchange more RJ for mainline, but nothing drastic... DL will probably grow more internationally.. probably ATL, SLC, JFK, maybe BOS and LAX..
I wonder what kinda surprises we will see though.. I could see a couple more international gateways opening up besides the hubs/focus cities.. or perhaps I just have a funny feeling for nothing..
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6248 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5769 times:
Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 5): i will bet you will see some more 772ERs(i wish they would put the GE-90s on them) also
I would tend to disagree, I don't see Delta ordering more 777-200ERs when the 777-200LR is available. Delta had some 777-200ERs on order, and they were all converted to 777-200LRs. I would expect that all of Delta's future 777 orders will be either the 777-200LR or the 777-300ER. Also, if Boeing decides on a 787-10, then the 787-10 could also be a possibility.
The Pink Delta 767-400ER - The most beautiful aircraft in the sky
Floridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1998 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5432 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3): A new 100-seater may also be possible, with either the Embraer 190 or 195 being the most likely candidates.
I think this is much more likely than a lot of people think, too! I know from talking to some people at DL that they really want some 100-ish seat aircraft to re-open some of their former mainline routes in the mountain west out of SLC. A few years ago, they dumped mainline from a lot of these routes and went all DL Connection with high frequencies. However, their market share dipped much more drastically than they had expected when loads dropped off. They have since made the determination that they would like to return some of those cities to mainline. Anyway, best of luck to DL in the world outside bankruptcy! You'll always be my airline!
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12167 posts, RR: 35 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4917 times:
What's the story about Delta taking AI's 777-200LRs? Much as I like to see DL grow, AI needs these aircraft (and perhaps a little decisiveness!)
When are the first 737-700s due to arrive?
It wouldn't surprise me to see a number of 777-200LRs being ordered; I know DL has quite a number of long haul routes projected ex-ATL, however, I expect to see a very significant 787 order, with the -9/10 ultimately to replace the 777-200ER and of course, the -8s to replace the 767-3/400ERs. I don't see any scope for -3s.
"Among the moves it made was turning over its underfunded pilots' pension plans to a federal pension agency, while winning concessions on wages and work rules from its pilots."
"... Federal Bankruptcy Court Judge Adlai Hardin gave final approval to its reorganization plan last week, after he rejected four final objections filed by bondholders and shareholders who complained that they weren't being treated fairly."
"As part of its emergence from bankruptcy, Delta plans to issue new shares to its creditors. It plans to list those shares on the New York Stock Exchange on May 3 under the symbol 'DAL'. Old Delta shares will consequently be canceled and therefore worthless.
Delta expects to have a market value of about $10 billion, which would make it the second-largest U.S. airline by market value after Southwest."
So: $19 Billion in Debt, $7.5 Billion in losses for a total of $26.5 Billion in the red, coming out of BK with a value of $10 Billion....seems like about $16.5 Billion just dissapeared.....Nice.....sounds like Delta screwed the pilots, lots of creditors, and the American taxpayers....I fail to see the cause for celebration.
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4608 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4453 times:
does anyone know where on the airport the plane will be at 7pm? If tis somewhere rather visible im going to try and drive down, both otherwise, ill wait... They should park it out by mercury for everyone to drive by and see!
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
Dl757md From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1560 posts, RR: 18 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4177 times:
Quoting FXramper (Reply 19): Unless you work in finance or fleet management, no one can accurately predict the upcoming fleet plans for DL.
Ahhh now now. I don't work in finance or fleet management (working on the latter) but that doesn't mean I can't accurately relay what has been told to me by, oh...I don't know......THE COO OF THE COMPANY! I'm thinking he might have an idea.
N102DAman From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 155 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4077 times:
I am sitting here 7000 miles away in Iraq swelling with pride. This is truly a great day for the Delta Family. They have stuck it out yet again and gave it their all. I can not say how proud I am today to be part of that family. I am going on R&R next week and will take a Hop just to congratulate them.
The new Delta livery signifies a new start. It is attractive and nothing fancy. While I do wish they kept the red and blue widget It seems like Delta was going after the Onwards and Upwards theme by the way the widget is tilted. At least we have a widget on the tail. Albeit not a complete one but it is a start.
I do wonder however what some of the test designs were. Wonder if someone can link to them or if they can post them.
Again Congrats to all the delta family. You have done a superb job. Keep up the great work. I can't wait to get home and Get on a Delta bird again.
"Service and Hospitality from the Heart." (C. E. Woolman, Delta airlines first CEO and founder.)
As I was reviewing the above photo of the new Delta livery and lamenting the plain-Jane front end that looks unfinished, I suddenly realized something. If you look at the aircraft from the left side, the Delta symbol points...........NORTHWEST!!!
Could this livery be an interim one that will be completed when DL merges with NW after the latter exits bankruptcy protection?
The tail logo would be a great way to celebrate both predecessor airlines.