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What Will Replace The B1900?  
User currently offlinePiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

I just got a job with Mesa / US Express at MHK as a CSA / Ramper and all we get are Beechcraft 1900's to and from MCI and SLN. Since these birds are showing their age physically and mechanically (we are constantly delayed due to one of them going tech. on us) it got me thinking, what will replace the 1900 on these EAS routes? As far as I know the 1900 has ceased production as I dont hear of any new frames being built, but I could be wrong..

[Edited 2007-05-02 00:04:06]

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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

Indeed, Raytheon dropped the line in 2002, and Onex/Hawker Beechcraft have not announced any plans to restart it.

By the way, any Hawker Beechcraft or Spirit employees here? Onex sure does seem to have a hold on the Wichita aerospace industry.



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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

the beech 1900/ j-32 were both good planes for EAS cities.


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User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

I wonder if Embraer might jump in and start a modernized version of the EMB-120 or something... Or Saab?

User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 3):
I wonder if Embraer might jump in and start a modernized version of the EMB-120 or something... Or Saab?

I think the EMB120 was designed after the Bandierante, which was a 19 passenger unpressurized craft that served many commuter airlines well in the 80's and 90's


User currently offlineSkyyMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

AFAIK, no one makes a 19-seater any more? Unless these airlines go for the restart of the Twin Otter, I'm guessing those BE1's will be around for a good long while. Not sure if EAS economics make anything larger worthwhile.

User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3007 times:


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Embraer did build a prototype in the 20 seater range, but the complexity of the aircraft kept the price too high for the market they were targeting.



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The company that holds the type certificate for the Twin Otter (Viking aircraft from Victoria, B.C., Canada) has now reintroduced the type as a DHC-6-400 series aircraft. Viking already builds all the parts needed to build a Twin Otter. Subsequently, these will be new-build rather than modified existing aircraft. I do believe that there is an order book of around 40 aircraft, and possibly more! The aircraft will have many updates including new engines and instrument panel.
This aircraft, although an inexpensive alternative in the 19 seat range, does not have pressurization. Also, the fuselage is too small to stand in.



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User currently offlineKstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

Quoting PiedmontINT (Thread starter):
I just got a job with Mesa / US Express at MHK as a CSA / Ramper

Wow, interesting that there is someone from there on here. I'm planning on flying in to MHK on July 3rd, visiting the area and such. It's just such a pain drving from MCI....

It's interesting how the 19 seat market has primarily been dominated by this a/c...I wonder if Raytheon will come out with some sort of new aircraft in the future.



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User currently offlineSansVGs From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

Quoting PiedmontINT (Thread starter):
I just got a job with Mesa / US Express at MHK as a CSA / Ramper and all we get are Beechcraft 1900's to and from MCI and SLN. Since these birds are showing their age physically and mechanically (we are constantly delayed due to one of them going tech. on us) it got me thinking, what will replace the 1900 on these EAS routes? As far as I know the 1900 has ceased production as I dont hear of any new frames being built, but I could be wrong..

I am pulling for the Metro 24 with full EFIS.



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User currently offlinePiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 7):
Wow, interesting that there is someone from there on here.

You would be surprised! I know for a fact one of my buddies is on here all the time checking out the pics and reading the forums, but I dont think he posts very much.

If you go a few miles west out to SLN there's a ton of aviation geeks out there between K-State Salina and Hesston's aviation programs


User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

Rumors around here have it that the Do228 (19 pax, range of about 1000 km (full pax load)) is about to be restarted, maybe that's any good.


SailorOrion


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Quoting SailorOrion (Reply 10):
Rumors around here have it that the Do228 (19 pax, range of about 1000 km (full pax load)) is about to be restarted, maybe that's any good.

That would be interesting to see. Do you have any sources or links other than a rumor on that? Who is the supposed company that is going to restart that line, since DO went belly up a while back????



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User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2553 times:

Basically only the 728 section of FD went belly up, the 328 department ended in AvCraft while all the Rest (like the 228 blueprints?) ended in the RUAG. I know a few people in RUAG, as I live less then a stone's throw away from the plant, and currently the company (from their information) is "strongly considering" that move, the decision is (apparently) to be made within a few weeks. However I'm not sure whether the 228 would really be a competitive aircraft, though I must admit that my knowledge of the sub-50-seat market is around zero. I've flown the 228 back when I worked for FD, and it's a pretty nice aircraft  Smile

Good enough a source?  Smile

SailorOrion


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