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NW Set For 757 Trans Atlantic Starting Monday  
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7531 posts, RR: 8
Posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

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Beginning Monday May 7, Northwest Airlines will launch 757 trans atlantic service between Detroit and Frankfurt Germany, Flight 96 will depart Detroit at 11:05pm local and arrive Frankfurt at 1:25pm the next day. This is an addition to Northwest's current A330-300 service.

Heres the schedule.. it is somewhat of an odd one (757 flight only) A330 flight is daily DTW-FRA 5:30 pm-7:50am and FRA-DTW 10:40am-1:50pm

May 7-
DTW-FRA 11:05pm-1:25pm
May 8
DTW-FRA 11:05pm-1:25pm FRA-DTW 3:20pm-6:40pm
May 9
DTW-FRA none FRA-DTW 3:20pm-6:40pm
May 10
DTW-FRA 3:15pm-5:35am FRA-DTW None
May 11
DTW-FRA 11:05pm-1:25pm FRA-DTW 7:15am-10:35am
May 12
DTW-FRA 11:05pm-1:25pm FRA-DTW 3:20pm-6:40pm
May 13
DTW-FRA None FRA-DTW 3:20pm-6:40pm
May 14
DTW-FRA 11:05pm-1:25pm FRA-DTW none

Not really sure what is up with the one weekly flight that has horrible times, eventually this flight will go daily.


"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
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User currently offlineSTJ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3858 times:

I wonder which birds they have fitted out with the new interiors already, still see some of the the new winglet 57's still doing regular domestic runs so they obviously have not had the interiors redone yet.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7528 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3840 times:

The schedule is:

DTW-FRA:
NW 96 Depart: 3:15pm Arrive: 5:35am+1 757 Thursday
NW 52 Depart: 5:30pm Arrive: 7:50am+1 A330 Daily
NW 96 Depart: 11:05pm Arrive: 1:25pm+1 757 Monday, Tuesday, Friday Saturday

No 757 (second frequency) flight on Wednesday & Sunday

FRA-DTW:
NW 95 Depart: 7:05am Arrive: 10:35am 757 Friday
NW 51 Depart: 19:55am Arrive: 1:50pm A330 Daily
NW 95 Depart: 3:20pm Arrive: 6:40pm 757 Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday Sunday

No 757 (second frequency) flight on Monday & Thursday

Actually those flight times make a lot of sense. The primary driver for the different timw on the Thursday DTW-FRA & Friday FRA-DTW is the desire to offer an early morning flight back. A lot of people on business want to get home in time for the weekend, and due to the flight times in the morning cannot get any meaningful business done in Europe and still get home at a decent time on Friday. So often you wrap up on Thursday and just get up and fly home on Friday. Makes more sense than a late afternoon departure on a Friday.

I used to do this when I was going back and forth to Europe for work for 3 months. I'd wrap up on Thursday, and take earliest flight back on Fridays, getting back into DTW around 1pm. Granted, due to the jet lag, I'd be out for the night by 8pm upon my return, so it was be able to enjoy Friday afternoon back at home, opposed to wasting more of the day traveling.


User currently offlineN808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

There is (supposedly) currently one aircraft that has a cabin upgrade, and that is N545US. however it doesn't have winglets yet. i dont know how quickly they can install winglets....but they have 3 days to do it. according to my recent check of info, this aircraft is sitting in IND...where the cabin mods are done. I really hope NW doesn't start the route with a domestic configured 757....ick!



Edit....actually i see this aircraft made it to DTW today. still no winglets though.



-Jason   

[Edited 2007-05-04 06:38:47]


All flights have great IFE...get yourself a window seat, thats something no PTV can beat! flew 808 Pacific an Atlanic
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4537 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

I was looking at IND-DTW-FRA just checking prices and noticed they have the 757 loaded already for the flights I was checking on May 8th and 15th. WTF. The 757 both ways is nearly empty. How can they consider running that flight with maybe 2 or 3 dozen people booked? Probably explains why with 4 days notice I can get a ticket for under $600.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineSTJ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3182 times:

I see flight 96 went yesterday, looks like went a little more than half full. What struck me as odd is that they had some seats blocked for "crew rest". I would think that one crew would be able to do that flight and they would not need a reserve/rest crew onboard.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3121 times:

An 8hr flight requires crew rest time.


"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3083 times:

I have heard from a source the a/c will have business class seats. Westbound flights will carry very little freight and may possiblly have a refueling stop....


i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineSTJ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3020 times:

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 7):
I have heard from a source the a/c will have business class seats

Not a rumour, the first class seats were removed and WBC seats added, plus some coach seats removed to provide more leg room. Capacitiy went from 184 to 160 with the new configuration.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2962 times:

Quoting STJ (Reply 1):
I wonder which birds they have fitted out with the new interiors already, still see some of the the new winglet 57's still doing regular domestic runs so they obviously have not had the interiors redone yet.

I flew on a NWA 757 w/ winglets a couple weeks ago RSW-DTW. No WBC installed- still domestic config. Forgot to record the reg. #.



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2928 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
An 8hr flight requires crew rest time.

Thank you for pointing that out, Burnsie. Seems to be a misconception. Crews do get rest on flights. That and it is usually a contractual issue between the flight attendant work group and the company. At CO, we get breaks on flights scheduled 8 hours or more.

Quoting STJ (Reply 5):
I would think that one crew would be able to do that flight and they would not need a reserve/rest crew onboard.

One crew can, but with rest. Pilots are mandated for crew rest on flights scheduled 8:01 or more. No reserve crew or double staffing necessary.



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2683 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Quoting STJ (Reply 5):
I would think that one crew would be able to do that flight and they would not need a reserve/rest crew onboard.

The 8 hour rule aside, don't you think it would be a good idea to have a relief pilot on a flight that departs at 11PM and lasts 8 hours?

NWA might have that in their contract like other carriers do, so even if it was 6 hours they'd get an extra pilot which they should.


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