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CO Is First W/ Boeing Electronic Flight Bag In US  
User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9661 posts, RR: 52
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

SEATTLE, May 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA - News) and Continental Airlines today announced that the airline will be the first U.S. carrier to use the Boeing Class 3 Electronic Flight Bag (EFB) on its 777s. Boeing has delivered the second of two 777-200ER airplanes equipped with the Class 3 Electronic Flight Bag (EFB) to Continental Airlines. The airline accepted delivery of their first EFB-equipped 777-200ER in March. Continental also selected the Boeing EFB to retrofit on its previously purchased 777s.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070501/sftu097.html?.v=101

Continental is the first carrier in the united states to start using this system. The same Jeppessen products are available electronically in the cockpit. It will help the airline work towards a paperless cockpit.

[Edited 2007-05-04 01:38:56]


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User currently offlineASEFlyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3321 times:

forgive my ignorance, but what aircraft are capable of handling this package? I would think something like this would make more sense for an aircraft that would fly to a multitude of cities. 777s especially for CO usually fly to only a few cities...CDG LGW etc whereas commuter aircraft are often in any of hundreds of different cities on any given day. This just brings to mind Comair 5191, would this have made any difference?

User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3306 times:

Quoting ASEFlyer (Reply 1):
forgive my ignorance, but what aircraft are capable of handling this package?

Eventually all CO aircraft with have EFBs, the company promised the union they would install them by the 787's EIS

Quoting ASEFlyer (Reply 1):
777s especially for CO usually fly to only a few cities...CDG LGW etc whereas commuter aircraft are often in any of hundreds of different cities on any given day.

The crews still carry about 60lbs worth of paper in their nav kits

Quoting ASEFlyer (Reply 1):
This just brings to mind Comair 5191, would this have made any difference?

Yes it would have, EFBs can be equipped with an airport moving map function

[Edited 2007-05-04 04:48:54]

User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Some info in here...

Boeing And CO Announce B777 EFB Order/delivery (by 777ER May 1 2007 in Tech Ops)



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User currently offlineASEFlyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

very nice...so no possibility for regional jets in the near-term?

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3254 times:

Quoting ASEFlyer (Reply 4):
very nice...so no possibility for regional jets in the near-term?

My airline wants to get them, they've tested out the different models, talked with the manufacturers, etc. The one problem is that the FAA is going to require us to have both electronic and paper for 1 year to ensure everything goes smoothly and the airline can't make it cost effective to have both systems for an entire year. So, for now, we'll keep throwing out backs out with our flight cases. *sigh*


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9661 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Quoting ASEFlyer (Reply 1):
I would think something like this would make more sense for an aircraft that would fly to a multitude of cities. 777s especially for CO usually fly to only a few cities...CDG LGW etc whereas commuter aircraft are often in any of hundreds of different cities on any given day.

While that might be true, I believe the crews on the 777s have to carry all the documentation for any possible diversion airport. I may be wrong, but a CO 777 flying EWR-DEL has to have tons of way points and charts for every part of airspace that they fly through.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
a CO 777 flying EWR-DEL has to have tons of way points and charts for every part of airspace that they fly through

Has a nice hefty database in the FMC that is for sure, as do all the CO aircraft.......database el grande'!  Smile
IIRC, CO sometime back upgraded all their aircraft to a larger database than some other operators have but the exact size of it slips my mind.

And, bravo to CO for going to the EFB......yet another example of the leading edge technology with their flight ops that CO adopted long ago.  bigthumbsup 

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User currently offlineSea2Pdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months ago) and read 2941 times:

Quoting ASEFlyer (Reply 4):
very nice...so no possibility for regional jets in the near-term?

All QX aircraft will be equipped with EFBs, including the Q200s. Installation should begin later this year. This will include displays both on the flight deck and one in the cabin for the Flight Attendant.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7550 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

So what happens when something goes wrong with the system in an emergency... I don't think this is a great idea to go all paperless.


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User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 9):

If you rode jump seat on an aircraft you might be surprised what happens when a pilot has to rely on paper. Take away a pilot's FMS and for the most part they struggle to figure out the Jepp charts. (What do those symbols mean again?  Wink ) The only thing Jepp charts are routinely used for are as sun shades in the eye-brow windows. As they say, if you don't use it you lose it.

Statistically speaking, the technology is very reliable and the chance of losing both EFBs is very small. If you do, then you are having a very bad day and might want to consider that God is trying to send you a message.....


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2837 times:

BTW NZ has been using Electronic Flight Bag on its 772ER into and over the USA for over a year now.


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User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4556 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

NorCal

Not sure where you get your information from, we use Jepp charts all the time and even know what the ''symbols' mean

Most of us do not have EFB'S.


We have dedicated sun shades.

Try educating yourself a little old chap, you'd be surprised how far it can take you..



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12192 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2759 times:
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Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 3):

I thought I had started a thread on this before. It was started in Civil Av, but it was moved into Non Av, then into Tech ops.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Wow, congrats to CO

When I was in the Southwest Flight Ops - Publications department, they were looking heavily into it but it was still at least 5 years away (that was in '04). The EFB is quite convenient and handy from what I've read (provided you dont run out of batteries  Smile )



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