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User currently offlineThaiA345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11576 times:

Hi Guys,

I am definitely far from being an expert on aviation in Thailand. But as I am such a frequent flyer with TG, I hope this thread will give insights and inputs to all that are interested in avaition in Thailand.

What we know from from Thailand are:

Main Airlines:

1) Thai Airways International

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2) Bangkok Airways

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3) Orient Thai / One-Two-Go

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4) Nok Air

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5) Thai Air Asia

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6) Thai Sky Airlines

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7) PB Air

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September last year saw the much awaited move from Don Muang to Sunavarbhumi. The new airport was plaqued by many problems up till today (although I personally don't find any major issues with the new airport except for the long distances from one end to another). Colusures of some piers and taxiways due to cracks on the tarmac eventually led to DOn Muang being re-opened for domestic flight on 20 March this year.

Thai Airways International

TG Fleet (as at 04/2007):

18 B744
2 B743
6 B773
8 B772
4 B772er
4 A345
5 A346
12 A333
6 B734
20 A300-600R

NB: Aircraft tranfered to Nok Air has been excluded from the above

Other recent news regarding TG are:

1. Postponed Delivery of THAI’s A380-800 Aircraft

THAI’s Board of Directors approved of the postponement of the company’s 6 Airbus A380-800 aircraft, with delayed delivery from Airbus S.A.S. by approximately 21 months. The postponed delivery was taken under careful consideration following a total of 9 meetings held by the company’s Executive Committee and Board of Directors. It was concluded that it remained necessary for the company to use the Airbus A380-800 along-range aircraft type with a seat capacity of 519 seats, in order to increase its productivity on routes with high passenger traffic and restraints in increasing flight frequencies, such as London, Frankfurt, and Paris.



As a result, Airbus proposed compensation for losses and granted various perks beneficial to the company. The company’s first Airbus A380-800 will be delivered to THAI in September 2010.



2. New Aircraft to Replace Those to be Retired

THAI’s Board of Directors approved of the intent to purchase 8 new Airbus A330-300 aircraft, replacing 8 aircraft of the average age of 20 years that will be retired from the company’s fleet: 6 Airbus A300-600 aircraft and 2 Boeing 747-300 aircraft. THAI’s Board of Directors have considered and compared cost-effective operations. Upon consideration of the new aircrafts’ regional and operational performance, compared to the aircraft type that will be retired, it was concluded that the mid-range Airbus A330-300 was appropriate and most beneficial to the company. In addition, the company received a price reduction for Airbus A330-300 aircraft from Airbus S.A.S.



The first Airbus A330-300 aircraft will be delivered to the company in year 2008, with gradual delivery through until year 2010.



3. Sale of 2 Airbus A300-600 Aircraft

THAI’s Board of Directors approved of the sale of 2 Airbus A300-600 aircraft, whereby the first aircraft will be delivered in March 2007 and the second aircraft will be delivered in June 2007.

Accidents & Incidents:
April 27, 1980 – a Thai Airways Avro 748 enroute from Khon Kaen to Bangkok lost altitude during a thunderstorm and crashed about 8 miles from Don Mueang International Airport. All four crew members and 40 of the 49 passengers were killed. [5]
April 15, 1985 – a Thai Airways Boeing 737-200 hit high ground on Phuket and was destroyed by the impact and fire. All four passengers and seven crew members were killed. The accident occurred after a failure of both engines. [6]
August 31, 1987 – a Thai Airways Boeing 737-200 flying from Hat Yai to Phuket crashed into the sea off Phuket. All nine crew members and 74 passengers were killed [7]
July 31, 1992 – Thai Airways International Flight 311 an Airbus A310-304 hit the side of a hill 23 miles north of Kathmandu while descending towards Tribhuvan International Airport from Bangkok. All 113 on board (99 passengers and 14 crew) died. The accident was caused by technical faults (with flaps and a possible second unknown fault), pilot error and lack of equipment at TIA at the time (no radar). [8], [9]

Thai Airways Domestic Passenger ticket (2004)December 11, 1998 – Thai Airways Flight 261, another A310-200, bound for Surat Thani from Bangkok, during its third landing attempt in heavy rain, crashed into a rice paddy about 2 miles from Surat Thani airport; 102 of 143 aboard were killed. [10]
March 3, 2001 – a Thai Airways International Boeing 737-400, bound for Chiang Mai from Bangkok, was destroyed by an explosion and fire that occurred about 35 minutes before the Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and about 150 other passengers were to board. Five members of the cabin crew were aboard, and one was killed. Witnesses said they heard an explosion before flames erupted aboard the aircraft. NTSB investigators reported that the center fuel tank exploded followed by the right tank 18 minutes later. The cause for the explosion was unclear. No traces of explosive were found. The center fuel tank is located near air conditioning packs which generate heat, and were running nonstop prior to the explosion.[11]
April 19, 2005 – a Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-200 stopped approximately 194 meters beyond a painted stop line at Don Mueang International Airport, and its left wing-tip was clipped by a Thai Airways International Airbus A330-300 taxiing for take-off. Both aircraft were severely damaged. There were no injuries.
October 26, 2005 – a Thai Airways International A300 skidded off the runway in heavy rain on landing at Don Mueang International Airport. There were no injuries.

Bangkok Airways:

Fleet:

8 ATR 42-500
4 B717-200
3 A320

Info regarding Bangkok Airways:

The origins of Bangkok Airways can be traced back to 1968 and a company known as Sahakol Air, which was initially set an air taxi service operating a Tradewind, a twin-engine, ten-seat aircraft during the Vietnam War. The assignments came from Overseas International Construction Company (OICC), an American construction company known as United States Operations Mission (USOM) and a number of other organizations engaged in oil and natural gas exploration in the Gulf of Thailand.
Today, Bangkok Airways flies to a total of 20 destinations in eight countries: Bangkok, Samui, Phuket, Sukhothai, Pattaya Beach (Utapao), Chiang Mai, Trat in Thailand. In Cambodia, we fly to Phnom Penh and Angkor Wat (Siem Reap). We also fly to Jinghong, Xi'an, Guilin, Hong Kong, Zhengzhou, Hangzhou, Shenzhenin in China, Luang Prabang in Laos, Yangon in Myanmar, Singapore and Hiroshima in Japan.
In choosing new destinations, Bangkok Airways invariably considers cities with rich cultures and historically important sites, which are not easily accessible to the everyday traveler. This underlines the airline's commitment to help local tourism industries develop their full potential and to promote the local heritage.
Our departure lounge at Bangkok Airport is equivalent to First Class or Business Lounges at other airports. The difference is our lounge (Domestic Terminal) is available to all our passengers.


Orient Thai:

Fleet:

2 747-100
4 747-300
1 757-200
4 MD-82

Orient Thai/One-Two-Go Airlines is Thailand’s first budget airlines. Uniquely distinguished as Asia’s only low-cost airlines to offer a one-price policy for all its fares to all destinations, One-Two-GO’s commitment to offering our passengers the simplest fares, with free snacks and softdrinks still served onboard and simple fare rules clearly makes us the easiest and most convenient choice for your air travel needs.

Nok Air:

Fleet:

6 B734
1 ATR 72-200

Info on Nok Air:

The airline was established in December 2003 and started operations on 23 July 2004. It is a join-partnership of more than 8 partners. The major shareholders are Thai Airways International (Thai: ¡ÒúԹä·Â), Siam Commercial Asset Co.,Ltd, The Crown Property Bureau, etc. Nok Air planes are leased from and maintain by Thai Airways International using the same standard of safety

Major Incidents:

On February 5, 2006 a Nok Air 737-400 made an emergency landing at Bangkok International Airport. Flight DD7506 took off at 1:48pm with 109 passengers on board, bound for Phuket. Ten minutes into the flight the pilot reported the right engine was malfunctioning and requested that he be allowed to return to the airport for emergency landing. On landing, the plane developed braking problems, the airline said, and it skidded off the end of the runway. Two passengers were injured. The aircraft involved, HS-TDD, was not one of Nok Air's colorfully painted "bird" planes, but a 737 in Thai Airways' livery without the Thai Airways titles and a "Operated by Nok Air" sticker.

A Boeing 737 en route Bangkok-Trang was forced to make an emergency landing at the Phuket International on May 6, 2006 after the crew reported a problem with one of its engines.



Thai Sky Airlines (Now Ceased Operations):

Plans for purchasing of aircraft and setting up of airport operations started in 2002 and the airline was officially established on January 30, 2004. The first flight to Hong Kong was launched on May 19, 2005. Flights to Kuala Lumpur were launched on May 21, 2005. It is a joint venture with Thai, Hong Kong and Taiwan interests, and was set up primarily to operate charter flights for tour groups travelling from Hong Kong to Thailand. The airline ceased operations in 2006.


Incidents and accidents
January 2, 2006 - Thai Sky flight 9I287 from Bangkok, blew a front tire on landing at Incheon. There were no injuries. There were no spares for the Lockheed L-1011 Tristar, so one had to be brought from Bangkok, causing a day's delay.
February 1, 2006 - a Thai Sky Lockheed L-1011 Tristar filled with Hong Kong tour groups aborted take-off at Hong Kong International airport. The Lockheed was grounded due to technical reasons, leaving angry and terrified tourists stranded. They started negotiating with Thai Sky Airlines for a refund of their paid tour. At the same time, returning Hong Kong tourists at Bangkok International Airport refused to board a plane from the same airline to take them back to Hong Kong, as they were worried about their own safety. In the end, some tourists agreed to board the plane. This plane landed at Hong Kong on February 2 at 6:10am, which made it possible for the group waiting in Hong Kong to finally depart for Bangkok on that same day at 8:19am. The incident resulted in both flights suffering a 12-hour delay.

Fleet
At its peak, the Thai Sky Airlines fleet included three Lockheed L-1011 Tristar jets. One of the few airlines still flying the plane, it had two L-1011s for passenger service and one for cargo. However, all three have been parked since August 2006 for lack of spare parts, and were cancelled from the Thai register on October 6th, 2006

In October 2006, Thai Sky acquired a McDonnell Douglas MD-82 as a replacement. However, the aircraft was soon repossessed, leaving the airline with no planes

Thai Air Asia:

Fleet:

11 B733

Info on Thai Air Asia

Thai AirAsia launched domestic operations on January 13, 2004. It was set up as a joint venture by Shin Corporation and AirAsia founder Tony Fernandes.
Thai AirAsia Boarding PassIn order to be licensed in Thailand as a domestic carrier, 51% of the company must be owned by Thai shareholders. The sale of Shin Corp. stock in January 2006 by Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's family to Singapore's Temasek Holdings put this Thai majority stake in jeopardy.
On February 15, 2006, it was announced that Asia Aviation, a registered Thai company, had taken Shin Corp.'s 50% stake in Thai AirAsia. Asia Aviation is joint venture set up by Shin Corp., which holds 49% of Asia Aviation's shares while 51% is held by Thai investor Sittichai Veerathammanoon.
Fernandes, a Malaysian, owns 49% of Thai AirAsia's shares and Thai AirAsia CEO Tasapon Bijleveld, a Thai national, owns 1%.



PB Air

Fleet:
1 B763er
2 ERJ145
1 DO 328
3 F28

Info on PB Air:
The airline was founded in 1990 by Dr. Piya BhiromBhakdi, the president of the Boonrawd Brewery, the biggest brewery of Thailand. It was originally was used for flights for the brewery staff only. In 1995 it received the license to offer charter flights and started operations in 1997. In February 1999 it started scheduled flights, in alliance with Thai Airways International and Air Andaman.


Ok Guys, thats just about what I know, lets hopefully get some great discussions going on here !!

Cheers  Cool

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User currently offlineFinnaviation From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11523 times:

Savatdee Khrap!  Smile

I've been waiting for Suvarnabhumi's Real Time Arrivals & Departures to appear on their site.
Any news about this?

It's 3 weeks for my next trip to Thailand. Wink


User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1761 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11490 times:

Any chance the Thai Sky tristars will fly again?

User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11476 times:

Sa wat dee khrap,

How about Thai AirAsia? Any new routes being planned in the nearest future? BKK-Shenzen will commence on 15 July 2007. The SEA Games later this year will be held in Korat. Has Thai AirAsia flew to Korat? I recalled there is another name for Korat, hmm... Nakhon Ratchasima?

By the way, great initiative by ThaiA345 for starting this thread. Khaawp khoon khrap.  wave 


User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11474 times:

Interesting observation, I visited Thailand three times last year and flew on most airlines regularly.
Some updates;
- PB leased out or withdrew their F-28s and 767-300. They only fly the Emb-145s on codeshares with One-two-go.
- Orient Thai/One-two-go I think has added two more MD-80s recently (no sightings yet but there were two MD-80s sold in Thailand in march), but withdrew the 757. Also not all the 747s are operational.
- Forget about seeing the Thai Sky Tristars flying again I am afraid. I had a great return trip on them in 2005, sad to see them go like this.
- Bangkok Airways uses the Royal Bhutan A-319 a lot on their flights, I flew on it BKK-Pnomh Penh, with Bangkok cabin crew, inflight magazines etc.
I wish Phuket Airways would try and fly again now they are off the EU blacklist. I once flew them between Chiang Mai and Udon Thani, 90 minute flight on a good old YS-11.



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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11474 times:

Excellent post Thai345, .

Can you post the routes that TG uses the 345/346/772ER/743 on.

Also on my next trip to BKK i am looking to catch rides on atleast the

B717-200 and B 747-100s and 747-300s---any ideas as to what would be my best chances economically to get on these aircrafts.

i think B717-200 is used on BKK-HKT--can someone confirm which flight number.

But most importantly i would like to be on the last of the 747-100s--which route would have my best chance of flying that on.

Looking fwd to suggestions

Regards/

Karan


User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11393 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4):
PB leased out or withdrew their F-28s and 767-300.

The 767-300 is currently flying with Viva Macau.

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 5):
Also on my next trip to BKK i am looking to catch rides on atleast the B717-200

If you take a flight from Bangkok to Samui, you will see in the timetable that some flights are shorter time-wise than others. The shorter flights are operated with the 717, the longer ones with the ATR 72.


User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1761 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11326 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 5):
i think B717-200 is used on BKK-HKT--can someone confirm which flight number.

I think PG277 and PG278 are mostly 717, but this may vary on different days. I think PG uses both 320 and 717 on BKK-HKT, the earlier flight (more popular) is 320 and the evening flight is 717. The PG 717s are very nice and they have excellent service.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4):
Forget about seeing the Thai Sky Tristars flying again I am afraid.

So between those 3 aircrafts, they can't find enough parts to fix one of them?


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11324 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 5):
Can you post the routes that TG uses the 345/

BKK-JFK, LAX I believe are the only destinations for the the 345.


User currently offlineThaiaggie From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11280 times:

A345

BKK-JFK
BKK-LAX

A346
BKK-AKL
BKK-ZRH
BKK-JNB
BKK-HKG

744
almost everywhere in Europe
LHR, CDG, FRA, ARN, CPH, MAD, FCO, SYD, HKT

734 (INTERNATIONAL)
BWN, VTE



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11259 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 5):
But most importantly i would like to be on the last of the 747-100s--which route would have my best chance of flying that on.

Likely to get UTM/UTQ on OX200 to HKG. These are -146B/SR/SUD aircraft, no idea for the best chance to catch the only real -100 (UTD).



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11221 times:

Quoting ThaiA345 (Thread starter):
The first Airbus A330-300 aircraft will be delivered to the company in year 2008, with gradual delivery through until year 2010.

Airbus A330-300 to replace the Boeing 747-300?? What gives?

Quoting ThaiA345 (Thread starter):
July 31, 1992 – Thai Airways International Flight 311 an Airbus A310-304 hit the side of a hill 23 miles north of Kathmandu while descending towards Tribhuvan International Airport from Bangkok. All 113 on board (99 passengers and 14 crew) died. The accident was caused by technical faults (with flaps and a possible second unknown fault), pilot error and lack of equipment at TIA at the time (no radar).

There is more to this. The "flap" malfunction on the A310 distracted the pilots so much that after they climbed out of the aerodrome, instead of heading south, they were heading in the opposite northerly direction towards the Himalayan mountain range. Since there is no radar facilities in KTM, the controller only relied on "reporting" technique being employed in this case (I think this is still the situation today). When the GPWS sounded, the tech crew probably had no idea that they were heading towards the face of a near vertical mountain (as they were in the clouds) because of their instinctive failed attempt to pull the aircraft up. This could probably be the first ever aircraft to fly into a vertical faced obstacle pre-911 (AA11, UA175). The wreckage of the aircraft is still there today as it has fallen too deep into a ravine to ever possibly stage a recovery. In fact, it is a locale of interest listed in the Lonely Planet guidebooks for trekkers walking in that vicinity.

Quoting ThaiA345 (Thread starter):
In October 2006, Thai Sky acquired a McDonnell Douglas MD-82 as a replacement. However, the aircraft was soon repossessed, leaving the airline with no planes

Hahahaha... this just seems so comical to me. I last encountered the Thai Sky Tristar during my last trip to DMK in Feb 2006. HS-AXE was seriously delayed because of technical faults and missing passengers. The airline does not seem to have things straightened out from the superficial look of things. Somehow, I am reminded of another airline attempt in the Kingdom, namely Angel Air. My friends and I frequently referred to that airline as Angel Hair (with reference to the pasta, of course).



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User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11200 times:

Quoting Cchan (Reply 7):
So between those 3 aircrafts, they can't find enough parts to fix one of them?

Surely this would just be a temporary solution, merely postponing "the time of death"?


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11187 times:

I would love to see this airline someday. It seems so cool but still a paper airline based in NE thailand




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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19227 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11148 times:

AirAsia will begin a once-daily BKK-SZX-BKK service on 15th July. Looks like both BKK-VTE-BKK and BKK-SGN-BKK are in the pipeline - and about time.

[Edited 2007-05-05 09:06:22]


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User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6601 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11139 times:

Two TG A346s being sold? I heard that some A345s were going to SAA. Anyone have any further info?

User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11131 times:

One airline you did not mention is SkyStar. http://the-wu.org/hkgspotting/viewtopic.php?t=2719 - this was on the HKG Spotters site. Is this airline going to happen? With the ex UAL 767-200?



Also, some time ago a person asked if there is any way for people outside Thailand to book on Orient Thai. He found the website very hard to use. I think he just wanted a ride in a 747-100. Is that still being operated?


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11122 times:

Saba dee mai krap....It may sound girly but I love the colours on the airlines. It's so damned nice to see something besides the same, drap white with stripes.

I just got back from Phuket on my first trip to Thailand...I was surprised to see 777's and 744's from BKK to Phuket.

Mai Yang beach really is the best plane spotting place I've ever seen. Truly amazing. The Phuket Tower looks awesome on the side of the hill.

The new BKK airport is a ghost town...and it's even more of a journey to get around in than Dubai.

Good thread...



What the...?
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19227 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11115 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 17):
I was surprised to see 777's and 744's from BKK to Phuket.

Common on that route and on BKK-CNX-BKK.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11089 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 17):
Mai Yang beach really is the best plane spotting place I've ever seen. Truly amazing.

Direct competitor to the famous St. Maarten/Princess Juliana in Netherlands Antilles.  tongue 


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11080 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 10):
Likely to get UTM/UTQ on OX200 to HKG. These are -146B/SR/SUD aircraft, no idea for the best chance to catch the only real -100 (UTD).

Thanks but is there a chance of catching them on a domestic flight like HKT.

BTW, Guys thank you so much for assisting me in my queries.

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 15):
Two TG A346s being sold?

Really is that a rumour or is it confirmed, i did hear about the 345 SAA rumour though.

Karan


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19227 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11076 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 20):
Thanks but is there a chance of catching them on a domestic flight like HKT.

My flight from CNX to BKK had an OX (as opposed to OG) prefix and had 747/M80 as the equipment, but it was alas operated by the M80. So, you can't ever tell.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11066 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 20):

I seem to remember that Malaga, Spain had a pretty good thing going too, but that was years ago. The advantage of Phuket is that it's in Phuket...  Smile  Smile



What the...?
User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11044 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 13):
I would love to see this airline someday. It seems so cool but still a paper airline based in NE thailand

This is just a hoax, probably set up by some aviation enthusiast or maybe as a university project. Nice idea but nothing more than that.

Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 16):
One airline you did not mention is SkyStar. http://the-wu.org/hkgspotting/viewtopic.php?t=2719 - this was on the HKG Spotters site. Is this airline going to happen? With the ex UAL 767-200?

I know from a good and reliable source that the reputation of the management of SkyStar is dubious, to say the least, and that the pilots supposed to fly the aircraft minimally qualified. It remains to be seen if this will ever really get off the ground and if so, how long it will last.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11007 times:

Quoting Thaiaggie (Reply 9):
A346
BKK-AKL
BKK-ZRH
BKK-JNB
BKK-HKG

JNB is now 772ER

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 5):
Can you post the routes that TG uses the 345/346/772ER/743 on.

772ER also does Milan.


25 777way : Checked TG website schedules which show the following. A346 Auckland Munich 743 Beijing 772ER Brisbane Melbourne Milan Moscow Sorry, confused JNB with
26 CX flyboy : A346s are actually scheduled to HKG. I saw one today. Yesterday an A345 made a one-off appearance.
27 Post contains images Malaysia : But it has some funny stuff on the site, they even used Parrot S***t to refer to Nok Air
28 ThaiA345 : I doubt so, the airline is already being liquidated or already has according to my Thai friends, but their website is still running, forgot the site,
29 Lufthansa747 : No unless aircraft substitution or extra flight during Thai holidays. I suspect the Suvarnabhumi-CNX/HKT flights during Songkran were using 747s. Nor
30 6thfreedom : BNE will no longer be B772ER from 1 June. TGs services between BKK and East coast Australia will be: 12pw BKK-MEL-BKK B772ER (7pw 8pm arrival MEL, mi
31 Karan69 : Barring NW, as of now EK and GF only operate 332s Karan
32 QF175 : But from late-September, it is expected TG will revert back to BKK-BNE-BKK non-stop. I have been told the SYD triangulation service is a temporary me
33 6thfreedom : How do you come to the conclusion that it's a temporary measure? While TG is linking SYD with BNE, it is also increasing SYD services from 14 to 19pw
34 QF175 : Ummm... because that's what I have been told... back to BKK-BNE-BKK by October.
35 6thfreedom : OK, so what are the other changes? what's the schedule going to look like. I'm not being sarcastic by the way.. genuine questions... How are TG going
36 Steve332 : I was in Thailand over Christmas and flew domestically on a TG A310 and an Air Asia 733 both were good flights one from Bangkok to Phuket and the othe
37 Lufthansa747 : TG doesn't fly A310s. Must have been a worn out A300.
38 Trent1000 : Where do I start? And it will stay that way: there's nothing in Esan. Flat, hot, dry. Not much for tourists to travel to see by air. Actually 1 am BNE
39 Lufthansa747 : No they won't. Oldest 6 will be replaced by A330s, nothing planned for the rest. The current mess TG is in (politics, frequently horrible cabin servi
40 ThaiA345 : Yes indeed!! ...Actually as I usually fly on J, I always avoid all routes that use the AB6, usually I will fly MH on routes that TG uses the AB6 or B
41 Ryanair!!! : They had 3. The 1st one was lost when they crashed it in Nepal and the 2nd one in Surat Thani a few years later. The 3rd one was left to rot after a
42 Trent1000 : So TG will replace the A300-600 with the A330, probably 200 series for the routes they currently use the AB6 on. I made a mistake to infer the replace
43 Lufthansa747 : They are not the same BE Aerospace seats. 777-200ER has a brand new type, forgot who the manufacturer is. More comfy than the 772/744/340 seats but 7
44 ThaiA345 : Interesting fact, actually after I replied to your earlier message I was on the way back from Paris, and when I got to the airport, TG931 was delayed
45 Post contains images Steve332 : I was almosrt certian it was an A310 but no complaining A300 is good news, That means I can add another aircraft to my list and all I need now is an
46 ThaiA345 : Hey Steve.... Yeah the A300 is a good old workhorse, but the interior on TG's A300 are really worn out with pathetic leg room especially in J and Y c
47 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : Who knows, now it seems this A330 acquisition has been blocked by the military government. So, one can enjoy the beautiful state of the art C-cabins
48 JoeCanuck : On a different note, I was pretty impressed that they served an ok snack on the TG flight from BKK-HKT. It wasn't a lot but the flight is less than an
49 Aminobwana : If you read the last paragraphs of the Article of the BangkoK Post (http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/14May2007_news03.php) it coud be inferred that th
50 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : SQ is dumping oldest 772s for 330s on regional, because the A330-300 offers better economics for the short hops. The BKK Post article suggests a Boein
51 Aminobwana : If the A330 are not bought, the compensation deal for the A380 will be moot. What do you think they will do ?? It seems to me that if they buy B777-8
52 Post contains images Malaysia : Yes but I guess you can get cheaper labor from Isaan,   and lower landing fees   by building a big transit airport smack in Udon Thani or how about
53 Lufthansa747 : What is a B777-8 and 9? It's not as if fleet commonality has ever played any role at TG, and i suppose it won't as long as politics is involved.
54 Aminobwana : Sorry, have a belly ache today !! I obviously meant B777-200 (ER or LR), B777-300ER thanks Aminobwana
55 Post contains links Lufthansa747 : OG signed for 14 MD80s from JAL. Very interesting. http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/15May2007_biz47.php
56 Steve332 : That didn't bother me, there was maself and 3 other friends going to Phuket at about 11pm and we made up probably half the load for that flight, I sl
57 Post contains links LIPZ : Thai Airways increases Dubai - Bangkok capacity for summer 2007 THAI announces two additional flights per week from Dubai to Bangkok commencing 5 July
58 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : I'm on a TG A300 from BKK - Krabi and back in July. Im looking forward to it actually - C class on QR A346 and A332 to Y class on TG A306 - wicked!
59 Post contains links Nimish : Good news - it seems like DD has finally announced schedules for the BKK-BLR sector starting 31/May/2007. More at the Airliners India site at: http://
60 ThaiA345 : Typical......military junta getting involved in commercial business ....like in many parts of asia. Like Garuda being run down the drain by bureaucra
61 Lufthansa747 : Sure, drop me a message next time you're coming this way. This I don't get too... TG is the only nonstop player for premium pax after GA scheds went
62 Post contains links Trent1000 : THAI Board Resolutions On 14 February 2007 -'old' news? Perhaps, but will the board simply do an about face over the A330-300? (yes, I'm aware the res
63 Post contains images ThaiA345 : Definitely will take u up on that That is correct! Their flight to/from CGK are always full, especially in J, sometimes they use the A333 sometimes (
64 ThaiA345 : Theres news of TG trying to increase their current 27 or so flights per week to Australia to around 42 by next year. Current problem is lack of aircra
65 Post contains images Malaysia : I guess Ill be on TG next month MAD-BKK and BKK-CNX etc not sure on routings yet, maybe MNL-BKK as well
66 ThaiA345 : On the MAD routings, its 100% you will get the retrofit B744 with flat seats in F & J, but sadly not in Econ. I still can't really understand why the
67 6thfreedom : Are ARN and CPH still operated with the old B744s, or have they also been retrofitted?
68 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : Ummm... Make FRA/LHR 95% and the rest "fairly sure". This is TG after all... 7442 (F14 C50), sold as Business/Premium Economy. Will not be retrofitte
69 ThaiA345 : Hahahahah Thanks for bringing me back down to earth Lufthansa747.....actually on my BKK-KUL flight 2 weeks ago, the 0900 one..its always been an A333
70 Malaysia : I love the A300s, its like I am back in the 80s and also I fly on ZED anyway, so I careless about F/J classes (never upgraded on TG yet)
71 Lufthansa747 : It "should be" is all I know... Sure hope so, HS-TKD had somebody's vomit in the seatpocket of my Y seat last time, disgusting, appalling, totally ri
72 ThaiA345 : Truth to what you are saying, but also in my case, I guess PTV is important to me so usually when I do travel on Y, I always use SQ or sometimes in M
73 Airtrainer : Well it seems that it's only possible to book domestic flights on their website (at least, using the english version...). Can anyone help ? I'd like
74 Lufthansa747 : Call the OX office in the city you are originating from.
75 Airtrainer : right, but the problem is that my english is quite poor to speak on the phone, and I don't really want to give my credit card number on the phone as
76 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : Well if you can handle not getting a seat, i suppose somebody will issue a ticket at the airport if there are seats, at least in Bangkok. Quite possi
77 ThaiA345 : Another point to note, TG used to be good in their Royal Orchid PLus redemtion whereby a lot of the hotels used are Shangri La's but this has ceased o
78 Malaysia : I just booked an Accor Hotel (NOVOTEL) in thailand recently, I get 75% off since I use my Airline account, which is a good deal, but the selections s
79 Sqb7e : Hi Im travelling on TG next week SIN/BKK/CTU dont have the flight numbers on hand at the moment but leave SIN at 0810 getting into CTU at 1455 A/C fro
80 ThaiA345 : Well as most frequent flyers on TG might tell u, anything is always possible on TG, they are pretty notorious for changing equipment on a last minute
81 Sqb7e : anyone sure of the loads for these flights Thai Airways Intl TG402 05JUN SIN/BKK Thai Airways Intl TG618 05JUN BKK/CTU Thanks in advance SQB7E
82 ThaiA345 : By the way, is there any further news regarding the status of TG's A345? So have they decided to keep them?
83 ZK-NBT : What are the pland with the AKL route? Will they run the 772ER as they planned to do last year or is the A346 going to continue in its very premium la
84 Post contains links and images QF175 : Thai Airways 747-400 HS-TGT operated the first of the new TG991/992 BKK-SYD-BNE-BKK services on Friday night. View Large View MediumPhoto © Stuar
85 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : 995/996 to SYD will operate with the old cabins next week. It will be my last TG flight for a while if they indeed stick me in those old F seats.
86 Trent1000 : According to the e-news June to August newsletter, TG are revising and (naturally) raising the mileage required for their award tickets from October.
87 ThaiA345 : That is correct, I have also noticed those changes when I read the latest edition of the newsletter. I guess it is somewhat acceptable as all star al
88 FlyTUITravel : So when were the original delivery dates and are these slots now available to other airlines? flyTUITravel.
89 777way : Ok any one answrr this , Utapao is a city of just an airport/air base serving Thai navy and Pattaya city, why do peopple refer to it as a city if its
90 ThaiA345 : Actually TG was supposed to get their A380 by 2008. But as everything was delayed, SQ being the 1st to fly is only getting it in OCT this year. Basic
91 Lufthansa747 : TG is piss poor if you fly C/F (125% and 150%) and use miles for F. BKK-HKG is 70K in F, BKK-Europe 170K. I can buy those from UA for 40K and 120K. O
92 ThaiA345 : Actually the BD reward which I get now has been real bad. Just vouchers for hotel upgrades and stuff which I don't even use! They initially used to g
93 GayrugbyMAN : When we going to see a Bangkok to Manchester service? Thai were rumoured to be looking at it a few years back.
94 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : You get one award on TG metal for half price. Not surprising they won't advertise it... I didn't get any vouchers, just called and told them I want t
95 ThaiA345 : Well, surprise surprise....we are talking about TG here! Nothing really eventuates until we see it with our own eyes! If I am not wrong, they current
96 ThaiA345 : Do any of you guys actually know how much seats do Tg set aside in each of their cabins for upgrades (using mileage)
97 Lufthansa747 : Booking class, use EF or so to determine. F=P C=J loads of them in other words.
98 ThaiA345 : Interesting, I am trying to get an upgrade from biz to F using my mileage on 10 sep, but guess what, apparently its full! Just like TG to do so huh !
99 SQA350 : I also just want to upgrade from C to F on TG 970 to ZRH or later back to BKK, but F is apparently full on both legs...
100 Post contains images ThaiA345 : basically, everytime I try to book way in advance, this always happens to me, but in the end, usually 4 weeks before departure, I will get the seat.
101 Levent : U-Taphao is the name of the Air Base owned by the Royal Thai Navy. There is no town with such a name. The two closest large towns are Sattahip and Ra
102 777way : Thanks Levant, I was wondering why some airlines list it as Utapao in their schedules, like S7 and Korean Air who do charter flights there.
103 ThaiA345 : Actually its quite often to see in many countries, airports names which do not reflect the city or area which they fly into.
104 Lufthansa747 : Orient Thai Airlines Resuming Suvarnabhumi-Phuket Effective 13JUL07, daily flight on both directions operated by Boeing 747 equipment. BKK-HKT OX 218
105 ThaiA345 : I am a bit off with OX, but, why did they pull out int he first place, and does it really warrant to use a B747 on the route? What about their MD82's
106 Lufthansa747 : All Orient Thai domestic is from Don Muang (DMK) operated by One Two GO (OG) MD-82/83. DMK-HKT is 4x daily. Shouldn't be a problem to fill 456-563 se
107 Trent1000 : Do you know what aircraft type is used on this route? How about turnaround time? Do the tour groups generally stay a few days, a week etc? Just curio
108 Lufthansa747 : Pattaya has way more.
109 Levent : They sometimes fly over my house before turning right for final approach to Rwy 18. I have seen many Tupolev Tu-154s. S7 Airlines frequently uses the
110 FXMD11 : Years ago SU used to come in with IL-86's and later with 96'ers. That is about 8 years ago. The Air Base itself is also being used by TG for maintena
111 David_itl : Has Mahan Air increased its IKA-BKK service this summer? They were planning to operate 10 weekly instead of daily. It seems both DUS-IKA-BKK and MAN-I
112 ThaiA345 : Sadly a thorough search of their website yielded a big fat ZERO! even the link to flight schedule is not working, only some news regarding expansion
113 Post contains images ThaiA345 : This was taken from another thread in this forum: Aviation Week & Space Technology 06/25/2007, page 15 Edited by Frances Fiorino The Order That Wasn't
114 ThaiA345 : THAI Holds Press Conference on Aircraft Order, Wine Purchasing, and Travel Kits Today(25 June 2007) at the Head Office of Thai Airways International P
115 Lufthansa747 : Seriously TG, stop these ridiculous "press conferences" and provide the product. I don't give a rat's ass about how much TG pays for Dom or whether a
116 ThaiA345 : Well, welcome to the corporate bulls**t with government influence of TG ...basically by reading the article, its saying to passengers:'sorry we forgo
117 SQA350 : Well, mine is in 2 hours, I will let you know...
118 777way : PIA and Thai are now codesharing on all of each others flights between Pakistan and Bangkok.
119 ThaiA345 : Cool, will be waiting anxiously for the update!
120 Airpearl : hear hear Having just completed a return flight BKK/AKL/BKK on Royal Silk, I can say that I was underwhelmed - the product in C class is seriously la
121 ThaiA345 : Well, if you have a read at my many trip reports in that forum, I have always complained that I find the cabin service in Royal Silk for the regional
122 Airpearl : Yes I had read your reports (they're great btw!) but I was still unprepared for the quality of service on the long haul to Auckland. It was an econom
123 SQA350 : I have just completed BKK ZRH in C, and can sadly only confirm the above! TG can absolutely not be compared to for example SQ. In everything they are
124 ThaiA345 : I have flown on everyone of TG's a/c except the A346, will be on it to MUC in Sep. Thats really sad, in my case, I was lucky as my previous trips on
125 Airpearl : Actually, Y class is an area where TG isn't so bad for the price paid - in fact I have frequently found the service in Y better than in C because you
126 ThaiA345 : So I guess....for TG Y = above average service C = a complete mess and disaster F = top notch service so i guess those crews in C are like disillusio
127 Airpearl : That's my feeling too... with the right management and incentives, it wouldn't be a stretch to make TG really world class, even surpassing SQ imho. h
128 ThaiA345 : Actually, on F, you will be pleasently surprised! In the F cabin they are definitely up there with the like of SQ and MH. Thats why I am so vocal on
129 Karan69 : Hi, any idea which 747 aircraft series will be operating this route. Karan
130 SQA350 : Very interesting point! I see that often in the service industry in Bangkok, that the young unexperienced are doing a much better job than the experi
131 FlyTUITravel : Anyone know if the A345s are definitely going and when? FLYTUITRAVEL.
132 ThaiA345 : basically the current stance from TG is that the aircrafts will stay (early rumours said they were going to SAA). This is further confirmed by 1 more
133 ZK-NBT : These should have both been retired by now. I flew AKL-BKK-DAC in Y and the service was great! Can't comment on F and C.
134 ThaiA345 : This was taken from a another thread: 'Just heard from local news in Taiwan, apparently, there was a China Airlines A330-300 flying from Kaohsiung to
135 6thfreedom : I note that 1 x B773 has been refurbised. Can anyone add details on: * what the refurb means for J and Y * which sectors it operates on most often (AT
136 ThaiA345 : When I spoke to one of the F/A early this year on the B773 to ICN, all B773 will commence refit by middle to 3rd quarter of this year, meaning at the
137 Post contains links TreeHillRavens : New TG 773 Seat Map It comes with 61" lie-flat bed in Royal Silk Class. 32" is the standard seat pitch for EY, but certain rows have 34".
138 6thfreedom : I think you mean TG, not EY! How does TG allocate the 34 inch pitch seats? Has the class of travel got anything to do with it?
139 ThaiA345 : Well, on TG for a/c without Premium Y, and it this case the B777's do not have premium Y, the 34" seats are usually those around the emergency exit a
140 Post contains links and images Superfly : Sawasdee What ever became of HS-TGE? I was one of the last 747-300s. I flew that first-class back in March. Hate to see that leave pax service. View L
141 TreeHillRavens : The "EY" written in my previous post is referring to Economy Class. Not the EY=Etihad Airways.
142 ThaiA345 : Serial number 23722 LN:688 Type 747-3D7 First flight date 16/11/1987 Test registration N60668 Stored since May 2007.
143 Superfly : Thanks. Wow I was just in 9th. grade when that went in to service. Will it get sold to some rich oil baron in the Middle-East or converted in to carg
144 6thfreedom : sorry. my misread. I thought TG maintained 34 as standard, with some rows 33 or 32? Also, does anyone know what B744 flies to ARN and CPH? Are they t
145 TreeHillRavens : TG 747 are all 34", 772ER all have 34" as well. As for the 772non-ER & 773, 32" is the standard seat pitch in EY. However, certain rows have more pit
146 Post contains images ThaiA345 : So basically: Pay econ: u get old econ seats Pay Premium econ: u get old J seats Pay Business: u get old F seats
147 6thfreedom : What are the old J class seats like? Comfortable? Lie flat?
148 ThaiA345 : They are actually extremely comfortable and they do go 180 degrees flat, nice soft cushions too. Has PTV but non AVOD. I have been on them only once
149 6thfreedom : Ok, have another question... short sector in Y class.... which has better legroom? TG A333 or CX B773? which would you choose?
150 ThaiA345 : I seldom fly Y on TG or CX as I am mostly on business trips so my company is geneours enough to pay J for me, but I have asked a friend who always US
151 TreeHillRavens : Indeed. All Malaysia Airlines *widebodies (744, 772 & 333) all have 34" of pitch in Economy Class. *Malaysia Airlines leased 332 are the only ones wi
152 Post contains images ThaiA345 : Well, I guess the oil barons will now focus on the A380 the 'poorer' barons will probably go for A319 CJ or BBJ. Cargo seems unlikely as most cargo n
153 Trent1000 : TG is currently advertising in a local Fukuoka magazine their fare specials to various Thai and other Asian destinations (2 X quarter page ads). Next
154 ThaiA345 : That is true as I for one always avoid all the TG routes being operated by the AB6. Luckily in my case, most of the routes I fly are operated by the
155 Trent1000 : To add a few details to my post just above: TG's scheduled flight time FUK/BKK is 5hr 20 min, but flightStats notes an average of 15 min late arrival
156 ThaiA345 : Asia Forum 2007 reveals the future of aviation highlighting the great collaboration of Star Alliance’s member and aviation business partners Bangkok
157 Lufthansa747 : I have been in TG F 4 times this year, 3x a complete disaster with swaps to old, crappy seats and non existent service and rude crews. Once it was on
158 Post contains images ThaiA345 : So I think in my case I have been really lucky. Great service everytime I am in F, and most importantly somehow DOm was always avail in my case till
159 TreeHillRavens : You can go with SQ 744, which is Spacebed equipped.
160 6thfreedom : MEL X 12 pw SYD x 5pw
161 Lufthansa747 : MEL/SYD/BNE/DME/MXP I think. It's 777 on TG schedules. Although you seem to have spotted one at DPS... It's TG after all! The seats are wider, with l
162 Trent1000 : SQ also has a range of business class configurations for regional and long haul flights. I think the point various members make in this thread is tha
163 Lufthansa747 : Piper Heidsieck Rare.
164 ThaiA345 : I flew SQ on NRT-BKK back in 2005 and they did serve Moet if I am not wrong. But don't quote me on that.
165 ThaiA345 : Precisely. The think is not about last minute aircraft swops as it is afterall normal in airline ops. But the problem with TG is that due to their va
166 SQA350 : In April it was still Piper Heidsieck as usual
167 TreeHillRavens : If i'm not mistaken, Thailand has open skies agreement with Malaysia. So, they probably have with Singapore as well. And Thailand is very generous wi
168 Superfly : Khawp khun khrap.
169 ThaiA345 : So if you were in my shoes, would you go for Air China or Dragon Air from HKG to CTU? Prices are almost the same. Any info on the formal entry of Air
170 Lufthansa747 : UPS parcel haulers. AY is retiring their M11s, first two sold to SU Cargo.
171 Post contains images ThaiA345 : I guess the MD-11's are great cargo aircraft. But maybe as per Superfly's earlier post, the MD-11 is actually also a good candidate for rich oil baro
172 ThaiA345 : Hi Guys, this was taken from TG's latest Board meeting in June. For some reason, every board meeting will result in a new board member appointment! 14
173 Trent1000 : This is probably a stupid question, but does that mean that TG will stop flying to Chittagong? Did they operate an AB6 on this route? What does 'dela
174 TreeHillRavens : If i have to choose between CA and KA, i'll go for KA. Because KA has a better reputation. I believe KA use 32S to CTU, seat pitch is 38" as well. If
175 Lufthansa747 : TG was to manage the airport itself, nothing to do with flights/slots AFAIK. Perhaps the Bangladeshis came to their senses, having TG manage somethin
176 ThaiA345 : Actually I have decided to take KA on this route. Are you sure 38" is in Y? I don't think so right? ehehhe The J on this sector is really expensive,
177 ThaiA345 : Results from THAI’s Board Meeting 11 July 2007 at the Head Office of Thai Airways International Public Company Limited, THAI held its Board of Direc
178 ThaiA345 : Airlines told to clearly spell out fare details BOONSONG KOSITCHOTETHANA Thai aviation authorities are demanding that all Thailand-based airlines to m
179 Malaysia : I still wish PG had non-rev agreements, since I plan to go to Samui later and dont want to go through URT and it requires switching airports in BKK, w
180 Post contains images ThaiA345 : Now thats a new one for a.net !! Not bad for these tribal guys to get a visa to the US of A huh !!
181 Malaysia : yet its so hard for your generic thai gf to get a tourist visa to the US, and by the way I had to always wipe off peoples shoe marks on the toilet se
182 ThaiA345 : World Airlines Awards 2007 Commenting on the World Airline Awards, Edward Plaisted (CEO of Skytrax) said .... "We would use this opportunity to thank
183 Post contains links MHG : Can anyone give some more details regarding "Krabi Airline" that intends to start ops with a single B 777-200ER. Their website appears to be a bit "un
184 Post contains links Malaysia : " target=_blank>http://www.krabi-airline.com/ I like the http://www.isaanair.com version better for a fake Thai airline
185 Malaysia : I was thinking about taking PG on BKK-USM, Anyone know how open they are about rebooking a new flight for you incase you miss the first one? I want to
186 ZK-NBT : TG had a 345 HS-TLC in AKL this past Thursday 26th July, not sure how they pulled that off when they only have 4 and are flying daily to JFK and LAX.
187 Karan69 : I was checking schedules to KIX from BOM on TG for my father for August,. The best connection showed me a 772/772ER --but said * technical stop requi
188 Post contains images ThaiA345 : Actually right now they have 5x A345. the last one was delivered in late April 2007 Well, this is TG afterall, it might be either a B772 or B772ER or
189 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : Boeing 777-200/200ER (772 code) refers to 772A only in TG terms. Boeing 777-200/300 (777 code) refers to 777-200ER only. As for the actual equipment.
190 Malaysia : What are the chance of PG reaccommodating me on a later flight if I miss the first one due to delay from arriving BKK from USA?
191 Paparadzi : I saw this B767-200 HS-SSA of SkyStar in Phuket yesterday. Any news about the airline?
192 Karan69 : First of all thank you ThaiA345 and Lufthansa747 for your helpful replies. I actually looked into that, but to get the discounted fare which would com
193 Lufthansa747 : Not a clue why. Full 5th freedoms on those flights, actually they used to connect to the old (BKK-)KIX-LAX routing, so TG could offer MNL-KIX-LAX. Su
194 ThaiA345 : Hi Guys... I have a free round trip 1 class upgrade from TG (from requalification as Gold ROP). I am thinking of using it for my end of year trip to t
195 ZK-NBT : Um that was the forth! The brand new HS-TLD was in AKL this past week aswell.
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