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User currently offlineN-156F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Anyone out there know if NW has any firm plans for nonstop service between MSP and JAX? I remember hearing not too long ago that the bean counters were thinking of an A320 direct, but did anything ever come of this?

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User currently offlineNWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (14 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

You might not get a whole lot of replies on this, because I don't think there are any NW pilots on this forum, and no employees (maybe one or two, I'm not sure if A330_DTW or A32 work for the company).

That said, I haven't heard anything about MSP-JAX, but if NW were to have started JAX service, my guess is that they would have done it before now to catch the seasonal growth to JAX (granted, it's not MIA or RSW, but it does get some seasonal traffic).

In the past, Northwest has started routes from secondary cities if people start flying routes to the secondary city connecting through the primary city. That may sound confusing, but it's easier said with examples...like MEM-BWI, a route which was started about two years ago. Enough people were flying MEM-DTW-BWI that NW started that route. Other examples include (the short lived) DTW-FCA, MSP-FLL, and MEM-PHX (recently restarted after the route was suspended three years ago).

My point is that if you want JAX-MSP nonstop service, a good idea would be to book one of your trips to MSP on NW through DTW or MEM, rather than JAX-CLT-MSP or JAX-ATL-MDW-MSP, on USAirways and AirTran respectively (your last two routings to Minneapolis, if I'm not mistaken).

Good luck with the route! I hope you in JAX and us in MSP get the flight as well.


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User currently offlineNwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (14 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1660 times:


BWI-MEM was dropped sometime this year. Sad to see it happen. I always hope IAD-MEM will start but every new schedule disappoints me. IAD-MEM-the south is much easier than IAD-DTW-MEM-the south or even IAD-DTW-the south.


User currently offlineN-156F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

NWA Man- JAX is already served by NW, via DTW and MEM. I assume you knew this based on your reply, but I'm just making sure...

Yes, those were my last two routings to MSP. I was quite happy with US's JAX-CLT-MSP route, and quite disguted with FL. If NW's rates would go down from JAX, I'd fly them a lot more, but currently they (and United) are putting up skyway robbery fares here...

Can any DC-9s do the JAX-MSP/MSP-JAX run direct? If not, it would explain why they don't have one set up yet. They've always been reluctant to fly anything larger than a D95 here, and I believe their one scheduled A320 flight to DTW was canned within weeks, as it was too big a plane for a small market (for NW).

User currently offlineNwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (14 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

Often times when a city such as JAX sees an A320 for a few weeks it is because their is a shortage of DC9 available. For example IAD is largely a DC9 city for NW (with the exception of one A319 to MSP and one DC10 to AMS). However, for a while over the summer I noticed that my 8:00pm IAD-DTW flight was operated by an A320. I thought it odd that NW would make that flight of all the overcrowed NW flights at IAD an A320 because it always seemed less than 1/2 full. Turns out the A320 pilot told me it was due to a large amount of DC9s in maintanence at the time so planning added the A320 to IAD for a couple of weeks.

Also, NW will be unlikely to give a DC9 city such as JAX another type because it is easier for the station to support one type of aircraft.

I don't believe the DC9-50 would have enough range to make a JAX-MSP flight. Infact I think the -50s have shorter ranges than the smaller -30s (I coulde be mistaken)

User currently offlineNWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (14 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 1622 times:

Hmmm...good question Ben...I'll try to find the range for the DC-9s and get back to you on this thread. I know that I've been on nonstop DC-9 flights to AUS, ATL, MSY, and LGA, but I don't know if NW's '9s can make it from MSP-JAX. If memory serves me correctly, NW used to operate a few MSP-MCO flights in the summer with a DC-9-50 (before they got so many A320s).

BTW...I know that NW flies MEM/DTW-JAX...when I said "start service to JAX", I meant from MSP. Actually, my grandma just flew MEM-JAX last Sunday.

I'll try to find out the DC-9 range answer, and post it here tomorrow...we'll see what happens.  


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