Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3085 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4483 times:
Wow... That is sad news for the struggling airline having lost support from Qatar, UAE and now Oman. Was this news expected?
On the positive side this allows the airline to focus on one hub and not have the red tape of having to deal with several different countries governments to obtain funding.
I have flown GF several times and always found them a pleasant airline to fly, but nothing fantanstic.
They tried rebranding themselves a few years ago and really tried to make a big turnaround with the emphasis on the golden falcon and introduced new liveries and executive lounges, also some quite innovative touches like inflight chefs and nannies. But the seem to have come off the boil recently and while other Gulf airlines are leagues ahead.
I am wondering if they can turn the airline around and turn it into an airline like Emirates, Qatar and Etihad. But this would take huge amounts of investment and wondering if the Bahraini government has or is willing to invest these huge sums required.
CV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4437 times:
I don't think that it is sad news that Oman has pulled out of GF, in fact it's good news for GF as they can now concentrate on the restructuring plan with a single HUB operation with the promised investment from the Bahrain government.
One day you are the pigeon, the next the statue ...
SWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4341 times:
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 3): Would this mean that the GF's new Summer Timetable is changed, so Muscat will not be serving cities except Bahrain by GF?
I'll find it out 2moro at the "pink palace!"
Well this was about to happen, sooner then expected though.
last week we heard the news that Bahrain is interested in a 100% stake of GF, so off course it's a logic move by Oman eventually.
I am interested to see as well what they will do with the regulations of liscences and registrations of the aircraft,
all of this is in Oman with DGCAM(A40), and what this means for the routes.
BKK LHR ?
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4943 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4287 times:
i dont think the summer timetable will be effected...this change and one hub focus by GF on BAH will fully be implemented from the onset of the winter 07-08 timetable.
it'll be interesting to see if Oman Air takes up GFs profitable MCT-ISB/PEW/LHE routes which they dont fly on currently.
also remember its not a total win-win situation for GF as now with MCT gone, GF loses its O&D labor market on MCT-India/DAC/PAK/BKK/KUL routes as BAH doesnt have as much labor traffic as MCT does. Thus GF will now become totally a "transit airline" for pax as 95% of its pax on board will be 6th freedom ones.
yes the whole fleet is registered in MCT, but will be re-registered in BAH...no big problem here.
Quoting BigTom (Reply 7): I wouldn't count Thailand as much of a labour destination and definitely not Malaysia.
you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia. Plus both destinations are tourist hot spots for the local Arabs in BAH & MCT.
BigTom From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2006, 597 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3591 times:
An editorial in today's Gulf News sheds light on GF's receding status ...
Icon of collective ambition and glory
Quote: Few airlines in the history of the region have elicited as much heated debate as Gulf Air.
Nevertheless, the company will always remain an icon that people can look to with pride and recall with enthusiastic affection. For years, Gulf Air embodied the magnificent symbol of unity between Gulf countries and was a visible part of their closeness.
The withdrawal on Friday of Oman, the last of Bahrain's partners in the airline, may have been greeted with happiness by some Bahrainis keen on their country having its own airline, like other GCC countries.
But for most Gulf nationals, there were no such cheers and celebrations. Instead, there were tears and sadness as they witnessed the end of a company that was part of their lives, a vigorous symbol of their common achievements and a lively indication of their aspirations.
KEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3512 times:
Malaysian workforce in the Gulf is negligible compared to those from the Subcontinent. Sure you'd find people of every nationalities everywhere, and the Gulf is no exception.
Recently, Malaysian tourism minister was in AUH to receive a tourism award from UAE authorities for being #1 most popular destination among the Emiratis. I wouldn't be surprised if Malaysia is also on the top of the list in most other GCC states looking at the number of Arab tourists (and students) that we get here. Oman Air would be mad not to cash in on this once they have the appropriate equipment.
Ryanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4771 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3484 times:
As sad as this event might be for some, lets view this positively because GF, in my opinion, was a negelected child with their respective owners all busy starting their own airlines. GF has had a glorious past and have been very much over shadowed by much younger airlines like Emirates and Qatar. Now that Bahrain has 100% control, it is time for them to concentrate on bringing back the GF we all once knew.
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
You're right, let's hope that Bahrain manages to put GF back on track.
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9): you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia. Plus both destinations are tourist hot spots for the local Arabs in BAH & MCT.
The labour contingent from the subcontinent far outstrips that from any other region. Sure there are Malaysians, Singaporeans, people from the UK, Europe, Japan and a whole lot of other nationalities working in the GCC but these are mostly in professional and technically qualified jobs and cannot be counted as labour. Apart from the subcontinent the Philippines provides a considerable number of workers too, mostly in the service and hospitality sector. That said BKK. KUL and SIN are huge leisure destinations for locals and expats from the GCC and no airline can ignore these sectors.
777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6845 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3161 times:
Quoting BigTom (Reply 11): Nevertheless, the company will always remain an icon that people can look to with pride and recall with enthusiastic affection. For years, Gulf Air embodied the magnificent symbol of unity between Gulf countries and was a visible part of their closeness.
I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai but they refused, thats why EK was set up.
SAA From South Africa, joined Oct 2000, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3066 times:
Has Gulf Air dropped JNB with immediate effect ? I was due to fly to London on Saturday via BAH and on arrival at JNB i was told i was being reaccomodated on EY via AUH and BAH. In the end I opted for the SAA direct flight on Saturday night.
TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4148 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2855 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 17): I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai but they refused, thats why EK was set up.
The problem was that back in the late 70s GF was a four nation airline. Owned equally by Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, and the UAE. The ruler of the UAE was the Sheik of Abu Dhabi, so the UAE's quarter of the operation was based in AUH. The Sheik of DXB wanted to move this piece to DXB, but it never happened. In those days GF had a large operation out of DXB, probably more flights than AUH, but DXB had no role in the set up. So the ruler of DXB bought an A300 and a B727 and DNATA formed an airline subsidiary which became Emirates.
Candid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 748 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2758 times:
I'd expect in the long run this would be the best if not only outcome for GF. It's no longer a major carrier compared with its local rivals, Emirates, Qatar and now Etihad (witness for example its imminent downsizing and also the fact that it only serves one corner of the UK compared with the other three). It seems to be focused on O&D traffic while the others are built on transfer traffic (not that this is necessarily a bad thing). Might this be the springboard GF needs to grow in the longer term just like its rivals?