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Oman Officially Exits Gulf Air, Effective May 5th  
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1883 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

There has been many rumours, many announcements, many threads here, and many withdrawals.

But now, its official, Oman officially exists Gulf Air after it became 20% owner recently, effective today.

Bahrain is now the sole-owner of Gulf Air.

Quote:

MANAMA, MAY 5 (BNA) -- OMAN HAS COMPLETELY WITHDRAWN FROM GULF AIR EFFECTIVE TODAY.

THE WITHDRAWAL PROCEDURE WILL BE SET IN MOTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 22 OF THE COMPANYS RULES.

THE COMMITTEE WILL ALSO OVERSEE THE TRANSFER OF THE AIRLINES OWNERSHIP TO BAHRAIN.

THE MEETING ALSO DECIDED THAT THE COMPANY WILL BE COMPLETELY MANAGED BY BAHRAIN.

SHAIKH AHMED PRAISED THE ROLE PLAYED BY OMAN IN SUPPORTING THE AIRLINE SINCE ITS INCEPTION MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO WHICH, HE SAID, REFLECTED THE DEPTH OF RELATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES.

http://english.bna.bh/?ID=58098

Exciting next few months for GF, Ihope they get their acts together now that OMAN is off the table and the burden!!

[Edited 2007-05-05 22:25:21]

[Edited 2007-05-05 22:44:12]


لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4362 times:

Wow... That is sad news for the struggling airline having lost support from Qatar, UAE and now Oman. Was this news expected?

On the positive side this allows the airline to focus on one hub and not have the red tape of having to deal with several different countries governments to obtain funding.

I have flown GF several times and always found them a pleasant airline to fly, but nothing fantanstic.

They tried rebranding themselves a few years ago and really tried to make a big turnaround with the emphasis on the golden falcon and introduced new liveries and executive lounges, also some quite innovative touches like inflight chefs and nannies. But the seem to have come off the boil recently and while other Gulf airlines are leagues ahead.

I am wondering if they can turn the airline around and turn it into an airline like Emirates, Qatar and Etihad. But this would take huge amounts of investment and wondering if the Bahraini government has or is willing to invest these huge sums required.


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

I don't think that it is sad news that Oman has pulled out of GF, in fact it's good news for GF as they can now concentrate on the restructuring plan with a single HUB operation with the promised investment from the Bahrain government.


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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1883 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

Would this mean that the GF's new Summer Timetable is changed, so Muscat will not be serving cities except Bahrain by GF?


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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 3):
Would this mean that the GF's new Summer Timetable is changed, so Muscat will not be serving cities except Bahrain by GF?

I'll find it out 2moro at the "pink palace!"
Well this was about to happen, sooner then expected though.
last week we heard the news that Bahrain is interested in a 100% stake of GF, so off course it's a logic move by Oman eventually.

I am interested to see as well what they will do with the regulations of liscences and registrations of the aircraft,
all of this is in Oman with DGCAM(A40), and what this means for the routes.
BKK LHR ?


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

Oman Air may take up the MCT/LHR routes although they don't have any long range aircraft as yet and I would think GF will continue operating them via BAH.

What will happen about the new maintenance facility planned by SR Technics in MCT, will that be moved to BAH ?



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4850 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4166 times:

i dont think the summer timetable will be effected...this change and one hub focus by GF on BAH will fully be implemented from the onset of the winter 07-08 timetable.

it'll be interesting to see if Oman Air takes up GFs profitable MCT-ISB/PEW/LHE routes which they dont fly on currently.

also remember its not a total win-win situation for GF as now with MCT gone, GF loses its O&D labor market on MCT-India/DAC/PAK/BKK/KUL routes as BAH doesnt have as much labor traffic as MCT does. Thus GF will now become totally a "transit airline" for pax as 95% of its pax on board will be 6th freedom ones.


User currently offlineBigTom From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2006, 597 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4006 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 6):
GF loses its O&D labor market on MCT-India/DAC/PAK/BKK/KUL routes as BAH doesnt have as much labor traffic as MCT does

You're right as far as India/Pak/Bangladesh and Sri Lanka goes, I wouldn't count Thailand as much of a labour destination and definitely not Malaysia.

Cheers


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 4):
and registrations of the aircraft,
all of this is in Oman with DGCAM(A40), and what this means for the routes.

If all GF aircraft are registered in MCT are the bilateral route licences held by Oman or Bahrain ???

Does Bahrain hold similar route agreements ???

Will GF lose other routes due to Oman puling out ???



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4850 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3621 times:

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 8):
Will GF lose other routes due to Oman puling out ???

GF has already lost the right to fly to DAC from MCT but it didnt hamper their BAH-DAC flights which were increased from 4 per week to daily eff July 2nd.

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 8):
If all GF aircraft are registered in MCT

yes the whole fleet is registered in MCT, but will be re-registered in BAH...no big problem here.

Quoting BigTom (Reply 7):
I wouldn't count Thailand as much of a labour destination and definitely not Malaysia.

you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia. Plus both destinations are tourist hot spots for the local Arabs in BAH & MCT.


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9):
you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia.

I'm not so sure about other areas but in Qatar there are restrictions on the number of Indian, Pakistani and Bangladesh work visas being issued so many Thai workers are being recruited.



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User currently offlineBigTom From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2006, 597 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

An editorial in today's Gulf News sheds light on GF's receding status ...

Icon of collective ambition and glory

Quote:
Few airlines in the history of the region have elicited as much heated debate as Gulf Air.

Nevertheless, the company will always remain an icon that people can look to with pride and recall with enthusiastic affection. For years, Gulf Air embodied the magnificent symbol of unity between Gulf countries and was a visible part of their closeness.

The withdrawal on Friday of Oman, the last of Bahrain's partners in the airline, may have been greeted with happiness by some Bahrainis keen on their country having its own airline, like other GCC countries.

But for most Gulf nationals, there were no such cheers and celebrations. Instead, there were tears and sadness as they witnessed the end of a company that was part of their lives, a vigorous symbol of their common achievements and a lively indication of their aspirations.

http://gulfnews.com/opinion/editorial_opinion/region/10123410.html


User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3391 times:

Malaysian workforce in the Gulf is negligible compared to those from the Subcontinent. Sure you'd find people of every nationalities everywhere, and the Gulf is no exception.

Recently, Malaysian tourism minister was in AUH to receive a tourism award from UAE authorities for being #1 most popular destination among the Emiratis. I wouldn't be surprised if Malaysia is also on the top of the list in most other GCC states looking at the number of Arab tourists (and students) that we get here. Oman Air would be mad not to cash in on this once they have the appropriate equipment.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3363 times:

As sad as this event might be for some, lets view this positively because GF, in my opinion, was a negelected child with their respective owners all busy starting their own airlines. GF has had a glorious past and have been very much over shadowed by much younger airlines like Emirates and Qatar. Now that Bahrain has 100% control, it is time for them to concentrate on bringing back the GF we all once knew.


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User currently offlineBigTom From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2006, 597 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 13):

You're right, let's hope that Bahrain manages to put GF back on track.

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9):
you should as there is a sizeable number of Thais and Malaysians working in service jobs in MCT & BAH and many more in UAE, DOH, KWI and Saudi Arabia. Plus both destinations are tourist hot spots for the local Arabs in BAH & MCT.

The labour contingent from the subcontinent far outstrips that from any other region. Sure there are Malaysians, Singaporeans, people from the UK, Europe, Japan and a whole lot of other nationalities working in the GCC but these are mostly in professional and technically qualified jobs and cannot be counted as labour. Apart from the subcontinent the Philippines provides a considerable number of workers too, mostly in the service and hospitality sector. That said BKK. KUL and SIN are huge leisure destinations for locals and expats from the GCC and no airline can ignore these sectors.

Cheers


User currently offlineFlyTUITravel From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Looks like MCT will still be a base until at least the Winter Schedule as they are still operating flights to/from MCT other than BAH.

For example:

Scheduled Time Flight Number Coming From Status Terminal
Mon 7 May 2007
15:20 GF003 BAHRAIN EXPECTED 1508 Terminal Three
19:10 GF005 MUSCAT EXPECTED 1850 Terminal Three

Scheduled Time Flight Number Departing To Status Terminal
Mon 7 May 2007
20:30 GF006 MUSCAT SCHEDULED Terminal Three
22:00 GF008 BAHRAIN SCHEDULED Terminal Three

flyTUITravel.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

I guess Oman Air will try to get LHR slots ASAP (easier said than done)


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6077 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting BigTom (Reply 11):
Nevertheless, the company will always remain an icon that people can look to with pride and recall with enthusiastic affection. For years, Gulf Air embodied the magnificent symbol of unity between Gulf countries and was a visible part of their closeness.

I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai but they refused, thats why EK was set up.


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 17):
I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai

Now that would have built a truely great pan-Gulf carrier with no EY or QR, the A380 would look great in GF's livery too  Smile



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User currently offlineSAA From South Africa, joined Oct 2000, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2945 times:

Has Gulf Air dropped JNB with immediate effect ? I was due to fly to London on Saturday via BAH and on arrival at JNB i was told i was being reaccomodated on EY via AUH and BAH. In the end I opted for the SAA direct flight on Saturday night.

User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

The JNB flight got canx every now and then due to aircraft shortages due to the recent grounding of the B767 fleet but I don't think it has been totally dropped yet.


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User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

As per the Gulf Air website, the BAH-JNB-BAH service is terminated with immediate effect.


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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4069 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2734 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 17):
I believe Emirates had asked Bahrain and all other GF memeber countries to allow the airline to be based in Dubai but they refused, thats why EK was set up.

The problem was that back in the late 70s GF was a four nation airline. Owned equally by Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, and the UAE. The ruler of the UAE was the Sheik of Abu Dhabi, so the UAE's quarter of the operation was based in AUH. The Sheik of DXB wanted to move this piece to DXB, but it never happened. In those days GF had a large operation out of DXB, probably more flights than AUH, but DXB had no role in the set up. So the ruler of DXB bought an A300 and a B727 and DNATA formed an airline subsidiary which became Emirates.


User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

I'd expect in the long run this would be the best if not only outcome for GF. It's no longer a major carrier compared with its local rivals, Emirates, Qatar and now Etihad (witness for example its imminent downsizing and also the fact that it only serves one corner of the UK compared with the other three). It seems to be focused on O&D traffic while the others are built on transfer traffic (not that this is necessarily a bad thing). Might this be the springboard GF needs to grow in the longer term just like its rivals?

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6077 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

EK's A300 and 737-300 were leased from PIA, later a 727 belonging to the Royal family was donated to the airline.

25 SWISSER : We recieved the deputy king HH Sheikh Salman Al Khalifa yesterday at the GF HDQ, and he basically told us that the airline will act to one that serves
26 AJO : the website claims DUB service will be ended on the 29th of June 2007. I flew GF23 BAH-DUB just last Sunday (May 6, 2007), after the message on the w
27 CV580Freak : Bahrain now has what it always wanted - their own national carrier and with the Crown Prince backing the restructuring plan I believe you will soon se
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