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LA Times: Delta To Add 37 Flights At LAX  
User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19064 times:

Interesting article in today's LA Times, saying a LAX expansion announcement by Delta is expected this week:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...830921.story?page=1&track=ntothtml

According to the article flights will be boosted 60%, from the current 62 departures to 99.

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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19053 times:

How much if these will be intra-California flights or flights to the Motherlands of Mexico and Latin America using Barbie Jets?

Of course it iwll make a nice hopping off point for flights to Sydney and other places Down Under one day.



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User currently offlinePacificWest From United States of America, joined May 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18917 times:

I think they have a good shot at breaking into the Northwest - California market. I think it'd be great if they experimented with an LAX - EUG/MFR/RDM. People already love their SLC flights and most people fly Delta when heading out East. I think Miles and brand recognition is no longer a problem for them in the PNW.

User currently offlineEVAN767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18863 times:

OHhh this is exciting.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18805 times:

Quote:
I think they have a good shot at breaking into the Northwest - California market.

I would wish them luck on that, but considering that UA and AS have that market fairly well controlled (even WN doesn't really compete on that one!!), I think they'll find that their SLC connecting point works better than trying some of the point-to-point routes.

Quote:
Delta is planning a significant increase at LAX, particularly to destinations in Latin America and Asia.



Quote:
"We've decided to make L.A. our second Latin America gateway,"

"Again" he should have said - they had the LAX market when they took over Western, but gave it away. Maybe they can recapture what they had...

What Asian destinations might they be going after? And do they have the aircraft (777) to do it?



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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18741 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 4):
What Asian destinations might they be going after? And do they have the aircraft (777) to do it?

How many 777 capable gates does T5 have?


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4106 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18690 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 4):
"Again" he should have said - they had the LAX market when they took over Western, but gave it away. Maybe they can recapture what they had...

Ronald W. Allen piddled it away during his tenure, and Leo downsized it even more. UA , AS and AA were the winners here. I actually think LAX will resume being the DL gateway to the Hawaiian Islands, as direct service is moved to California from SLC in the coming months.



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18627 times:

I keep hearing, "Delta will bring back meal service." Is this true or what?


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18565 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 7):
I keep hearing, "Delta will bring back meal service." Is this true or what?

Time will tell  Wink



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User currently offlineGlobalATL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18428 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 7):
keep hearing, "Delta will bring back meal service." Is this true or what?



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 8):
Time will tell

I'm just dreaming here but wouldn't life be so much better if hot meals in the main cabin were offered, again.


User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18323 times:

Quoting GlobalATL (Reply 9):
I'm just dreaming here but wouldn't life be so much better if hot meals in the main cabin were offered, again.

I'm just dreaming here, but wouldn't life be so much better if half the airline capacity in this country was not operating in bankruptcy again?



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18309 times:

Quoting GlobalATL (Reply 9):
I'm just dreaming here but wouldn't life be so much better if hot meals in the main cabin were offered, again.

"Passengers will notice the difference inside the planes as well, said Joanne Smith, Delta senior vice president for in-flight services. "We are to create a better on-board experience," she said. The airline will equip all long-haul planes with in-seat TVs, bring back meal service and install lie-flat seats in first class."

And then from forbes a couple of days ago:
http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0521/044.html?partner=yahoomag
"Grinstein is now adding back comforts, services and perks eliminated at other airlines. He's ripping out seats in its mainline jets and adding new leather ones with expanded legroom. Passengers get free HBO (movies, The Sopranos, etc.) on seat-back digital screens. They can also plug in headsets and browse 10,000 songs. Coach customers on flights of 1,750 miles or more get one complimentary alcoholic beverage and full meal service."



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineGlobalATL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 18130 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 11):
Coach customers on flights of 1,750 miles or more get one complimentary alcoholic beverage and full meal service."

Gottcha...thx


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 18055 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 7):
I keep hearing, "Delta will bring back meal service." Is this true or what?



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 11):
Passengers will notice the difference inside the planes as well, said Joanne Smith, Delta senior vice president for in-flight services. "We are to create a better on-board experience," she said. The airline will equip all long-haul planes with in-seat TVs, bring back meal service and install lie-flat seats in first class."

And then from forbes a couple of days ago:
http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0521/044.html?partner=yahoomag
"Grinstein is now adding back comforts, services and perks eliminated at other airlines. He's ripping out seats in its mainline jets and adding new leather ones with expanded legroom. Passengers get free HBO (movies, The Sopranos, etc.) on seat-back digital screens. They can also plug in headsets and browse 10,000 songs. Coach customers on flights of 1,750 miles or more get one complimentary alcoholic beverage and full meal service."

There's another thread going on "Change". Try posting there.
Delta Launches "Change" (by Alitalia744 May 7 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Back to the topic at hand. Had they closed the LAX pilot/FA base during the post 9/11 cuts, or is it still intact? Should make it easier to quickly ramp up flights if they hadn't.


User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2099 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17991 times:

Expanding at LAX is risky, but DL's Pacific routes are really weak. WN dominates short haul domestic and both AA and UA have large operations. I guess the opportunity is that nobody dominates. The other coastal cities are dominated by one airline or another, except maybe SAN, which has no room to grow and PDX, which is the smallest major city.

I would see DL attempting to use LAX as an international gateway. They need to build up the feed but LAX has relatively few non-stop Pacific routes on domestic carrier, considering the size of the demand. Of course the Pacific routes are dominated by highly rated Asian carriers so it would be tough to take market share from them.


User currently offlineFewsolarge From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17948 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 13):
Had they closed the LAX pilot/FA base during the post 9/11 cuts, or is it still intact?

Still intact, and the pilot base is being converted to multiple-variant flying for the B757/763/764 fleets.


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17822 times:

Quoting GlobalATL (Reply 9):

I'm just dreaming here but wouldn't life be so much better if hot meals in the main cabin were offered, again.

You can still get that right now if you fly CO. I got a free hot meal on my recent BOS-IAH and IAH-JFK flights.


User currently offlinePlanecrazy2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17696 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 11):
Grinstein is now adding back comforts, services and perks eliminated at other airlines. He's ripping out seats in its mainline jets and adding new leather ones with expanded legroom. Passengers get free HBO (movies, The Sopranos, etc.) on seat-back digital screens. They can also plug in headsets and browse 10,000 songs. Coach customers on flights of 1,750 miles or more get one complimentary alcoholic beverage and full meal service.

Full meal service is great news, it's pathetic you can fly UA ORD-HNL and not get a full meal. Hopefully other carriers will follow Delta's lead and bring it back too.



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User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5462 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17569 times:

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 14):
I guess the opportunity is that nobody dominates. The other coastal cities are dominated by one airline or another, except maybe SAN, which has no room to grow

I beg to differ on your statement 'DC10 about SAN. Just about 35% of all pax out of Lindbergh Field fly WN; the second biggest op there is currently UA with about 12% of the traffic out of SAN -- that's 1/3 of the number carried by WN!

On a per-market basis, the majority of routes served from SAN are monopolies as most service is to the various hubs. Just this year we have finally seen competition begin on several routes for the first time (or at least the first time in a very long time): ATL (FL joins DL), BOI (QX joins XE), BOS (B6 joins AA), GEG (QX joins XE), SLC (B6 joins DL) and last fall AS (temporarily) entered the SFO (UA) market (but there should be new competition for UA in that market again soon.)

Actually, Delta in SAN has seen more new competition than most (to ATL and SLC) so I would love to see them return the favor and perhaps pro-actively start stepping on some toes themselves, such as, AS's toes to PDX/SEA, maybe AA's and B6's to BOS, HA's tanned toes to HNL, almost any Florida route , a Mexico route or 2, etc., etc. Also, DL has access to about 5 gates at SAN (most of them now shared with others since DL ops are at a paltry 14 flights) so they could certainly add a few flights without a problem.

I can dream, can't I?

bb

[Edited 2007-05-08 00:18:48]

User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17398 times:

Quoting GlobalATL (Reply 9):
I'm just dreaming here but wouldn't life be so much better if hot meals in the main cabin were offered, again.

It will be a novelty initially, but then after a while, people go back to complaining about how terrible the food is...It's the circle of life.


User currently offlineTBCITDG From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 921 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17398 times:

So could we also see a LAX - SYD service offered by Delta?

User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17326 times:

I think, as time goes on, Delta will become one of the top tier US legacy carrier again. (along with Continental) Which is great because they are both SkyTeam members.


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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17283 times:

DL is positioning LAX as a global gateway - regional service on the west coast, mainline service across the US and to Hawaii, transpac service to Asia and the South Pacfic, a major gateway to Latin America (and not just RJs to Mexico), and a few choice routes to Europe.

It should be obvious that DL is thinking big and taking advantage of its financial strength and available aircraft and facilities to expand into key global markets around the world.

Anyone can file for BK but it takes real vision to take the advantage gained in BK and translate it into market leadership. AA is in the midst of a service meltdown and employee disdain that has ruined many airlines. UA has few aircraft to expand with and has high costs. DL would be a fool not to go after LAX.

DL will certainly get EZE from JFK and probably will add NRT in a year or two on top of LHR, leaving AA with no network advantages in JFK.

Lots of people thought I was blowing smoke all the time I said that DL would emerge and be a strong global competitor. Given that DL has


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17230 times:

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WorldTraveler From United States, joined Aug 2003, 2570 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted Mon May 7 2007 18:49:07 your local time (8 secs ago) and read 0 times:


DL is positioning LAX as a global gateway - regional service on the west coast, mainline service across the US and to Hawaii, transpac service to Asia and the South Pacfic, a major gateway to Latin America (and not just RJs to Mexico), and a few choice routes to Europe.

It should be obvious that DL is thinking big and taking advantage of its financial strength and available aircraft and facilities to expand into key global markets around the world.

Anyone can file for BK but it takes real vision to take the advantage gained in BK and translate it into market leadership. AA is in the midst of a service meltdown and employee disdain that has ruined many airlines. UA has few aircraft to expand with and has high costs. DL would be a fool not to go after LAX.

DL will certainly get EZE from JFK and probably will add NRT in a year or two on top of LHR, leaving AA with no network advantages in JFK.

Lots of people thought I was blowing smoke all the time I said that DL would emerge and be a strong global competitor. Given what DL has accomplished at JFK, it isn't hard to think that they can do what they want in LAX.

[Edited 2007-05-08 00:53:45]

User currently offlineNycfly75 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 760 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17230 times:

Any hope for European routes from LAX for DL?

25 Post contains images AirTranTUS : Here is a map of a 1750nm radius around ATL. It is nice they are bringing back meals, for ATL-LAX, SFO, SEA, and PDX. It looks like LAX barely makes
26 PacificWest : I agree that it'd be tough breaking into PDX or SEA... But I honestly think they'd have a shot at the smaller Northwest/California cities. These are
27 Jetdeltamsy : ' Gave it away? Delta lost the battle for the Los Angeles market to Southwest, as did USAir and (to some degree) United. Delta could not compete on p
28 Post contains images Evan767 : Still though guys, I don't know how reliable forbes is. I would hate to see this not be true. Anyway, AirTranTUS, the range isn't 1750nm, but 1750m.
29 Jfk777 : I would love to see a few 777 international departures from LAX for Delta, regardless of ocean. Tokyo is served by Korean, two Japanesse & three USA a
30 WorldTraveler : DL retreated from LAX because it thought it was safer to build ATL while retreating from key global markets. Someone realized you can't be a global ai
31 Kaitak744 : LAX-Tokyo is also served by Singapore Airlines with a 744. If Delta were to enter LAX-NRT, it would not hurt. Thai pulled out not too long ago, and t
32 FriendlySkies : Umm...isn't UA revamping their international product this fall? I can only assume it will include service updates, especially in light of DL's plans.
33 FlyDreamliner : Boatload of 767s to deploy? Let's be honest here, DL"s fleet is maxed out more than any other US carrier. They have 8 777s which are worked to the ab
34 Evan767 : Yup, a boatload. Delta STILL has 13 764's in domestic configuration flying domestic routes. Expect at least 8 of those to go international. That mean
35 Post contains images Whosee : Whatever happened to LAX-SJC service that was supposed to start in Feb? All the other intra CA flights started (SFO, OAK, SMF) was there not enough de
36 ContinentalEWR : Adding intra-California and intra-West Coast flights will result in Delta's bruising. Competition is stiff, with WN, AS, UA, US, and to a much lesser
37 Sea2Pdx : MFR will have one Q400 flight a day to LAX replaced by a CR7 this summer. And are you sure about those fares? I haven't checked MFR's fares, but the
38 Jetdeltamsy : Open Skies will have to go into affect before Delta can the UK @ LHR. It has nothing to do with how they "play it".
39 Fewsolarge : And that radius will shrink as they can afford to fund the continuing renewal.
40 WorldTraveler : Who says how many carriers can serve a market before it's saturated? If DL offers a competitive product, garner competitive revenues, and can do it ch
41 OzarkD9S : I wonder if DL will reinstate DFW-LAX. Do they still have enough customer loyalty in the Metroplex to renter the market, this time with DFW as a spoke
42 Deltasju777 : Does Delta have the aircraft to make it to Asia, or will these announcements come following an aircraft order. I Think they could make South America
43 Post contains images AeroWesty : Southwest didn't operate anything intra-California other than SFO-SAN until May '91, and didn't even announce their expansion until USAir had committ
44 Post contains images JRDC930 : Yeah youll have to pay an extra ten bucks on top of the already expensive airfare... I dont know why airlines dont just integrate the cost of a meal
45 PlanenutzTB : At what point does LAX become a DL hub? As DL finacial strenght grows, will DFW again become a hub in the DL system? Very happy to see Delta returning
46 Kaitak744 : So, does anyone know the gate break-down at LAX terminal 5? (number of 767 gates, number of 777 gates, ect).
47 Laxintl : I dont have an updated list of max aircraft types, however DL current gate set up in T-5 is as follows. 50B 51A 51B 52A 53A 54A 54B 53B 55A/B 56 57 5
48 Exusair : Start moving some CRJ-900 flying to LAX. Add DFW, BOI, PHX, DEN, MCI, GEG, ABQ on the CRJ-700/900. Add SJO, PTY,KOA, LIH with 757 service. Introduce 7
49 Vegas005 : Recently I flew ZRH-DFW on AA seat 12 b, close to the galley. Right before the meal service I heard this conversation from the flight attendants in t
50 COEI2007 : Why is DL certain to get EZE? I agree 100%!!! LAX wont be a walk in the park for DL. They'll get bruised! As much as they've performed a remarkable t
51 AA757200 : You may want to slow down a bit. DL has been out of BK for what, a week now? Lets hold off on crowning them financially strong and competitive at thi
52 UAL777UK : Oh please, come on.You make it sound like DL just need to turn up at the show and everybody is going to jump on their metal. This is the real world,
53 AirMailer : Slightly off topic but does anyone know if the 738s that DL received last month got sold or are being deployed in the fleet?
54 ORD : Chance of DFW becoming a Delta hub again: 0%.
55 ORD : This is not true. Delta's first major scale back at LAX occurred on May 1, 1995, when mainline departures were cut from 87 to 65 (see part of a press
56 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : I think it is a safe assumption that DL under the leadership of Jerry Grinstein is attempting to rectify the mistakes of his predecessors after the me
57 Jetlanta : With all due respect to the arm-chair quarterbacks, Delta was getting KILLED in LAX in the mid to late-90's. The red ink was was gushing at the same t
58 LipeGIG : Does BOG and CCS keep possible frequencies that DL could take advantage and run a LAX flight ? Shame that the bilateral with Brazil is on it's limits
59 Post contains images DAL767400ER : And nowadays DL seems to have trouble to even that market work from ATL. Too restricted bilateral, and even if DL were to get more rights to Arg., it
60 PacificWest : Yeah, my father takes that flight a few times a year and has said he usually pays somewhere in that range, but you're right - the LAX flights are pop
61 Laxintl : I dont know about the Venezuela, however Colombia bilateral does not allow for any additional US frequencies. All 70-weekly frequencies are either us
62 MAH4546 : I totally didn't realize that they were trying to take away those frequencies from AA. In that case, I think NK might not get them, because AA will d
63 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : MBJ has taken a significant chunk from the U.S./Jamaica market. KIN has been the big loser in this one over the years. KOA for sure, and LIH is also
64 SLCUT2777 : Eastern's collapse was in the early 1990s, not the late 1990s. DL already had ATL more cornered than many people realize by that time. California was
65 Jetlanta : My friend, the fact that you think that Leo Mullin spent ten minutes of his time pondering the structural importance of LAX or any other part of the
66 AeroWesty : I wasn't talking totally in terms of "major scale backs" at LAX--I mentioned in my post that routes were slowly cut one-by-one at first. For instance
67 Alexinwa : This is interesting as AS just said that they will fight off any and all new challenges to the hold they have on the west coast and the NW!! Wonder if
68 Post contains links Laxintl : Yes, check out these DOT filings. Spirit Comments http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf101/466919_web.pdf AA response http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf
69 Post contains images JRDC930 : BULLS*** , I ve studied aviation management from some one who worked in the industry and this statement is a load of baloney. If anything the subsequ
70 AirTranTUS : They will still need at least one Hawaii flight from SLC. For those passengers in the west and midwest who want to fly DL, but don't want to connect
71 Phllax : One thing the article fails to mention is that LAWA told DL it had to use all of its gates (T5 & T6) or they would be taken away. Right now many gates
72 ConcordeBoy : NW constitutes "half the airline capacity in this country"? Name a USA airline that doesn't do that.... Since when are TPA and SYD in Asia? SCL's hom
73 VictorKilo : I can see the former TWA 757's doing transcons to JFK in a Europe-JFK-LAX-Hawaii-LAX-JFK-Europe rotation. Not all, but a few. If the 767-300's have t
74 Nickofatlanta : FYI: LAN is replacing its current LAX-LIM-SCL service with nonstop flights from LAX-SCL a few days each week starting late this year with the flights
75 PanAm330 : I can't. If DL really wants to compete for F/C customers on JFK-LAX, they'll deploy BE-equipped 757s on the route, but they sure as hell aren't stupi
76 Evan767 : Delta!
77 Fewsolarge : Say what? Delta doesn't deploy narrowbodies on domestic routes? There must be more to your statement, because I know you ain't stoopid. What do you me
78 Evan767 : Oh brother, why do you guys have to take everything so literally? If you read my original post 34, you'd realize I was saying Delta deploys widebodie
79 Post contains images LawnDart : Be careful how you phrase things. According to Delta's "Monthly Operating Report for the month ended February, 2007", they have $1.978mm "cash", whil
80 Post contains images Jetlanta : Re-read the entire sentence. I was saying that the strategy of driving ValuJet out of existence was not successful. Perhaps I should have worded it d
81 AirlineBrat : He most likely meant TPE
82 Aaway : . (edits for max a/c gauge) 50B - up to B752 / non-FIS 51A - up to B752 51B - up to B764 52A - up to B764 / non-FIS 53A - up to B738, MD90 54A - up t
83 CV880 : July Sked....LAX-SFO/6x SJC/4x SMF/4x OAK/4x PDX/2x SEA/2x...intra Calif all RJ's
84 FlyPNS1 : You can add: DEN-LAX 4X ERJ PHX-LAX 4x ERJ BOI-LAX 1xERJ GEG-LAX 1xERJ
85 FlyPNS1 : Also add: YVR-LAX 1x ERJ
86 Post contains links and images DAL767400ER : Official PR: http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/070509/119215.html A bit off-topic, but I didn't know that the ERJs XE will fly for DL have XM radio, definitely
87 Post contains images LawnDart : Okay... Hmm... Ohhh...got ya. My bad. But yeah, you could've worded it differently. As in "Ultimately it wasn't successful in the sense that ValuJet
88 FlyPNS1 : Another thing to notice is the increase in the number of planes XJET will operate for DL. When originally announced, XJET was slated to operate 10 ER
89 Delta787 : XE is also adding 8 more ERJs to the Delta Connection fleet for a total of 18 to help with this expansion. I wonder where they are getting these plane
90 Post contains links and images Alitalia744 : well the Deltoids over in LA can get used to these little beauties flying around those parts (taken from another thread...by Drewwright)
91 Post contains links AirMailer : Did anyone post this yet?: LOS ANGELES, May 9, 2007 – Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) will accelerate the pace of its expansion at Los Angeles Internati
92 HVNandrew : So, DL is rebuilding the WA route network... with ERJs. It's a step in the right direction. This puts LAX back at or above the level of BOS, MCO and L
93 Flyinryan99 : Another tidbit of info that was in the press release is that XE will be doing all of the revenue management for this flying. Boyd touched on this in
94 WorldTraveler : You might want to pull a schedule for LA603 for June and beyond. LAX-SLC-EZE Of course DL is leading the charge. DL rebuilt its business during BK wi
95 AA757200 : Give DL some time to absorb the costs of their grand plans right now, in addition to the cost of repaying their exit financing, and buying new aircra
96 Delta787 : You seem pretty sure about it. Look below. The next time DL files for bankruptcy. Thats quite a statement to make, considering you just said we wont
97 AA757200 : Don't be so literal. It is a characterisation of their current spending habbits. Lets be clear, I am not saying this because I don't like DL and I li
98 Commavia : The operable comparison used by financial types is "cash and short term investments [or equivelants]," and "restricted cash." In that case, AA ended
99 Panamair : Actually, what spending are you talking about? Besides the $10 million marketing expense earmarked for the rebranding, what additional new items have
100 AA757200 : Agree to disagree. They are spending boat loads of money. You don't just press a button and start a new route, open a new international station, mark
101 Post contains links Ord : Industry expert Mike Boyd seems to think Delta is in a better position than AA (and UA). Part of his commentary from this week... "Let's just focus o
102 Blackknight : This is the signal other investigating airlines (looking to advance their route structure) have been waiting for, SLC and DEN have unique qualities f
103 USPIT10L : This is called "changing the compny." You've heard the old adage in business, "you have to spend money to make money," right? DL will do what it has
104 WorldTraveler : except that exit financing is part of total debt and DL has less than half the total debt than AA does and 1/3 less than UA. And DL has lower costs a
105 DIA77 : Isn't DEN an odd route for DL to be starting out of LAX? The route has at least 19 daily flights right now and a lot of competition (8 by UA, 8 by F9,
106 Deltasju777 : They added 21 routes. The LA Times article said they would add 37 will there be more announced soon possibly international. Are they adding these rout
107 Panamair : DL has been out of Ch.11 a mere 10 days. International diversification has been happening in the past 18 months, all in Bankruptcy. All of the capita
108 STT757 : What are some recent service quality awards DL has won?
109 Ord : In the 2006 JD Power Service Excellence Awards, Delta ranked as follows: #2 - Reservations #1 - Boarding/deplaning/baggage #1 - Aircraft condition/cl
110 AA757200 : See how long that lasts. Most companies rally around the flag the few weeks after they come out of BK, because all they get is good news from their C
111 Panamair : and yet you continue to say I ask you again - what are they "spending like mad two weeks" out of BK?"?? Have I missed a new A380 order on May 1? Did
112 RJNUT : they are adding LAX-PHX ,DEN,SJC,BOI,GEG,YVR, and add flights to OAK and SFO they "at risk" flights for Express Jet..
113 Evan767 : So, I expect there will be another, bigger, mainline announcement this week too?
114 Alitalia744 : Interesting given Wall St just upped DL's outlook!
115 AirTranTUS : If they are building an Asia hub at LAX, I would also like to see LAX-TUS on XJet, but that would compete with their ONT-TUS, which could be a proble
116 Post contains images Jacobin777 : .....on a "theoretical level", I completely agree with you about the part of the advantages of not having gone into BK.....but on a practical level,
117 WorldTraveler : What AA most needs is to get its employees onboard w/ whatever it needs to do.... pilots who think they deserve a 30% payraise when they are the least
118 Commavia : AA's problem today is one thing and one thing alone: labor. AA has the lowest non-labor costs of any legacy airline in the U.S., a bit higher than Jet
119 YVR1968 : With the daily YVR flight - that brings YVR-LAX to 15 daily flights (6-AS, 6-AC, 2-UA* and 1-DL*)
120 Aaway : Heck, XE will be competing with itself from BOI and GEG, and throwing itself to the wolves from DEN and YVR. Brilliant stroke by DL with this arrange
121 Post contains images Aaway : Heck, XE will be competing with itself from BOI and GEG, and throwing itself to the wolves from DEN and YVR. Brilliant stroke by DL with this arrange
122 GlobalATL : That only happens to UA & AA......can u say UNIONS???? They make my puke. Reread the remarks the BK Judge said. He gave only praise and admiration to
123 FlyPNS1 : As a side note, ExpressJet will also operate a 1x daily ERJ on ICT-LAX flight for DL.
124 DAL767400ER : ICT-LAX? How the f*ck did that one come about? Okay, to have one less plane RON at LAX, but other than that, I could have sworn ICT and DL were still
125 Post contains links AirlineBrat : Looks like QX has a little competition. DL just announced that they will start flying from LAX to EUG once a day. This was in yesterday's Eugene Regis
126 WorldTraveler : Except that your statistic about AA's lowest non-labor CASM is dated.... it doesn't reflect DL and NW's current situation. And those costs are NOT go
127 TSRA : ICT probably gave DL some money to fly west. This will actually work out well because of the large Asian community in/around ICT.
128 FlyPNS1 : Actually, I'm thinking this route is being driven by XJT and not DL. Just like the other recent announcements, I wouldn't be surprised if XJT is taki
129 DAL767400ER : Hmm, could very well be, didn't think of XJT having the risk with these flights. But still, there are other places that XJT could have started in that
130 Avatordon : What bad blood exists between DL & ICT?
131 WorldTraveler : ICT has been providing subsidies to FL.
132 Jbmitt : Could we see ORD/MDW to LAX? Seems like a big hole, even if ORD does compete with AA,UA, and Alaska. MDW against WN, F9, ATA should be possible consid
133 Socalatc : It seems like DL is going directly after AS/QX and the markets they fly. What is AS going to do to ensure their strong hold on those markets, or are t
134 Post contains images MD90fan : Never. JM has enough trouble with their MBJ flights. If Delta can't make Kingston work from their mega-hub at Atlanta, with easy connections to Ethni
135 Post contains links Commavia : Would May 9, 2007 be late enough to reflect DL and NW's current situation? On May 9, at the Bear Stearns Annual Global Transportation Conference, AMR
136 Sea2Pdx : In regards to the EUG announcement, there are a couple of things that AS/QX can rely on to compete. First, brand loyalty - there are lots of people t
137 WorldTraveler : just because an industry analyst quotes it doesn't mean it's not dated. Analysts get their info from DOT filings and NW and DL haven't filed any DOT
138 Post contains links and images A340Spotter : FYI, this plane should be out to LAX on Tuesday this week in advance of the new flying... View Large View MediumPhoto © Jeffrey S. DeVore JSD
139 Commavia : Of course they all have to contend with this as I said. Quoting myself: "...there is absolutely no telling what Delta's (or any airline's) labor cost
140 Belizexp : I agree I think we will see a JFK/FLL -KIN before LAX....The only place I see in the Caribbean that would work for LAX is SJU.
141 MAH4546 : AA has it covered with daily LAX-SJU service.
142 GlobalATL : I cant find the info on a.net where somebody said the Oasis Terminal is probably in the best condition compared to the rest of LAXs terminals. Somebod
143 Delta787 : You must be talking about a different employee group. Delta's pilots have been unionized since the 1940s.
144 Commavia : Indeed. My mistake. All of Delta's other workforce groups had high compensation and no unions during the 1990s, while Delta's pilots had exceedingly
145 Yellowtail : "Doing very well" is a realtive term...DL too ka bruising in the uncompettive MID market....is taking a bruising in San Pedro Sula.....BZE was not do
146 CV880 : Bring back the SFO-LAX-SJU service from the late 70's.
147 WorldTraveler : DL's formula has always been to have employees at the high end of the pay scale but also more productive than other airlines. DL's pilots have taken
148 Boeing7E7 : Not in a million years. Won't you be surprised by the end of the year.
149 Yellowtail : They are not in the business of adding routes...as they already fly to almost everywhere in LatAm....but they are adding flights on these routes and
150 FLYGUY767 : Delta Air Lines, has put a lot of thought into its route planning. For example the JFK and ATL TATL expansions are said to be doing rather well. If I
151 Flyboy80 : I will say one thing- If Im commuting out of EUG and see an ExpressJet ERJ on the ramp- Its going to feel really weird. This industry really amazes me
152 FLYGUY767 : That is such a shared feeling. Who would have thought that the US would have an airline flying to Africa after Pan Am? Who would have thought that Wi
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