JFK787NYC From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 809 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2963 times:
RJ does very well and they are very Very VERY competitive on the CARGO side.
You could also catch a310s flying to Tel Aviv on some days.
Some of the Cargo picked up by RJ in Tel Aviv is transferred to Arab countries as EL AL can not fly there.
RJ charges pretty big money but, less than the Europeans for these Cargos. Electronics, Pharmacitcals, Metals & Other expensive stuff
IAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
Quoting RJAF (Reply 8): if there was true peace between Israel and the Arab world, watch TLV become a major hub, abuzz with Arab carriers.
Peace, Salam, Shalom
I truly hope and pray for peace and reconciliation between Israel and the entire Arab world, especially the Palestinians. Peace would be a blessing for all, and it cannot come to the Mideast soon enough. Nevertheless, I don't think a formal peace treaty will attract Arab airlines to TLV, or result in many scheduled flights between Israel and Arab countries.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11923 posts, RR: 100 Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2497 times:
Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 12): It would be very very benefical for the Emirates to sign a peace agreement with Israel as both sides would profit substationally.
Ummm... I hope EK isn't given the authorty to determine maters of peace and war! There next order would be for bombers!
Quoting RJpieces (Reply 13):
No, but like I said, no reason in the world why that can't change.
Except for politics. The reality is that both sides woudl do well if there was peace.
But I'm not sure that is a politically possible reality judging by how many nations blame all of their problems on Israel (not saying its true, I'm just stating the political climate). How many arab countries even recognize Israel's right to exist? Not many...
But if it were to open up, both El Al and EK would see a tremendous boost in business. It would be bizarro to see each other's aircraft in TLV or DXB...
RJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2484 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 14): But if it were to open up, both El Al and EK would see a tremendous boost in business. It would be bizarro to see each other's aircraft in TLV or DXB...
I'd love to see some courageous Arabs like Anwar Sadat. If the CEO of Emirates announced his intention to start DXB-TLV, he would be perceived as a hero in most of the world (except ironically in the Arab world).
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16121 posts, RR: 57 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
While I'm generally against any route subsidies anywhere, these are 2 that I support.
The (too) few commercial links between Israel and the Arab world need to be fostered. The links they provide encourage trade (commercial & cultural) and understanding far more valuable than the underlying subsidy.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
IAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2082 times:
Do RJ and 4D receive subsidies for their flights to TLV? I don't know the answer, but I doubt that they do. The AMM-TLV route seems to be very profitable for RJ, but not for Israeli carriers. Remember that TK prospers on the route to TLV, but LY withdrew from IST. For whatever reason, this seems to be a similar situation.