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787 Aft Sections Rolled Out In South Carolina  
User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 501 posts, RR: 44
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8416 times:

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Vought Completes, Delivers First Boeing 787 Aft Fuselage

CHARLESTON, S.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Vought Aircraft Industries, Inc. today delivered its first composite sections for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, representing 23 percent of the airplane’s entire fuselage structure.

A custom-made transporter will carry the sections about 200 yards across the parking lot from Vought’s facility to Global Aeronautica, Vought’s joint venture with Alenia North America. There, the completed section will be wrapped and prepared for shipping before being loaded onto the Boeing Dreamlifter and flown to Everett, Wash.

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User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks ago) and read 8325 times:

Thanks for the updates IAD787. I appreciate your work. I have added your site to my bookmarks. It's really an awesome opportunity to see the 787 come together piece by piece. Before we realize it, there will be hundreds of these birds in the sky and the 787 will become common place, but for now.....It's EXCITING


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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks ago) and read 8242 times:

Here's a pic:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/formattc/vought-GroupShot1RGB.jpg

You can clearly see the oval shape and larger size of the windows in this photo.  Smile



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User currently offlineWingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2128 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8121 times:

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 2):
Here's a pic:

 bigthumbsup 

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 2):
You can clearly see the oval shape and larger size of the windows in this photo.

Random window size factoids:

787 windows are 10.5" x 18" spaced 24" apart
777 windows are 10.5" x 15.3" spaced 21" apart

So, compared to the 777, each window is ~20% larger, but there are 13% fewer of them for a given length of the cabin.


User currently offlineGrantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7933 times:

Um, I am having a hard time convincing myself that those windows look any larger than usual.

User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7626 times:

Anyone notice the random guy in the back starring up into the fuselage section  Wink


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6482 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7623 times:

Quoting Grantcv (Reply 4):
Um, I am having a hard time convincing myself that those windows look any larger than usual.

It's a good thing we have facts and not subjective reasoning:

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 3):
787 windows are 10.5" x 18" spaced 24" apart
777 windows are 10.5" x 15.3" spaced 21" apart



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User currently offlineDeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7391 times:

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 3):
So, compared to the 777, each window is ~20% larger, but there are 13% fewer of them for a given length of the cabin.

Have you ever noticed that the windows and rows dont align well on some planes, some rows have two windows and others have one centered to the seat?

I wonder if this was considered when they reduced the total number? Maybe they took into consideration how many rows the average customer would want and set the windows based on that?



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User currently offlineSEAdomer787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 115 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7242 times:
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Quoting Grantcv (Reply 4):
Um, I am having a hard time convincing myself that those windows look any larger than usual.

If you compare them relative to the people looking up into the fuselage, it's pretty apparent that the windows are tall enough that you would see their head and most of their shoulder through them.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 6):
It's a good thing we have facts and not subjective reasoning:

Agreed. And as noted, the windows are no wider than before, but rather taller and less "circular".


User currently offlineAirTran717 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6824 times:

There have been many threads and posts about the window size of the 787. Can someone explain why all the hype? I just don't consider window size a topic for such debate and wonder. It's just a window.

717


User currently onlineOroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6322 times:

Okay, so we got a front, back, now we just got to fill in the middle Big grin

User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6133 times:

Quoting AirTran717 (Reply 9):
Can someone explain why all the hype? I just don't consider window size a topic for such debate and wonder. It's just a window.

Because of their size, the pax experience will be quite different. Wait until you see it, I am sure you will be impressed.


User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6051 times:

"Can someone explain why all the hype?"

Well, in my opinion, and my experience flying, I have always enjoyed looking out the window. I think that more visibility through the window for the passenger is always a good thing. I also think Boeing is trying to emphasis the overall 'spaciousness' of the 787 cabin, and with more light coming in via the larger windows, maybe that translates into a more comfortable flying experience. Is it worth debating about,...who's to say. But are larger windows (the largest in commercial aviation) worth noting..,sure. (in my opinion)



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5962 times:

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 12):
Well, in my opinion, and my experience flying, I have always enjoyed looking out the window. I think that more visibility through the window for the passenger is always a good thing. I also think Boeing is trying to emphasis the overall 'spaciousness' of the 787 cabin, and with more light coming in via the larger windows, maybe that translates into a more comfortable flying experience. Is it worth debating about,...who's to say. But are larger windows (the largest in commercial aviation) worth noting..,sure. (in my opinion)

Agreed, who needs IFE when you have a perfectly good window?  Silly
That's my problem with some Airbus products, the windows tend to be small. I don't think I'd like flying on the upper deck of an A380 or a 747 because of the angle of the windows. They look to me like you can't see directly under the plane but only outward a few miles. The 787 windows will make me look for 787 when selecting flights.  Wink



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User currently offlineZoom530 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

Windows for window lovers make such a difference in the flight experience....

Who didn't love the windows on the 727...more squared off, large and placed at just the right level to look both out and down comfortably....compare them to the window locations in the Canadair RJ's-especially the 200's. They seem to be located at elbow level and impossible to get a comfortable view out of. I for one, am looking forward to the 787 design!!


User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1368 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5395 times:

Quoting Zoom530 (Reply 14):
Who didn't love the windows on the 727...more squared off, large and placed at just the right level to look both out and down comfortably

... if you are of median height, I suppose. But not if you are tall. That's why I am looking forward to the 787's taller windows.


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 501 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

The only thing good about the RJ windows was when you bank and you feel like you're looking straight down. Granted, straight and level flight was a good recipe for a crick in the neck.


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