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WN Has 'Ding' FR Now Has 'Bing'  
User currently offlineOnt 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 591 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

http://southwest.com/ding/what_is_ding.html


http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/feeds...p?partner=BING&view=email&pos=HEAD


Looks pretty similar if you ask me. Look at the FAQ sections for each airline. FR copied WN **word for word** all they did was replace "Ding" with "Bing". I like #5 for FR's FAQ.

"Will the Bing! application include ATA airports and offers for flights to/from those airports?"


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2919 times:
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Haha that is pretty damn funny!

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2872 times:

Has anyone who has "Ding!" downloaded "Bing!" to see if its a carbon copy of it tuned to FR's needs as well?


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User currently offlineZBA320 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2823 times:

I don't think it's down to Ryanair "Copying" Southwest. I think it's more of a Template of the Software company that created 'Ding' or 'Bing', given the Screenshot similarities with FR and WN modifying the template to suit it's needs. I wouldn't be surprised if other Airlines start to take on this idea.

Still Funny though.  Wink



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User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Wouldn't be surprised if FR did this with WN's permission anyway - there is a pretty good relationship between these two airlines, and it's not like they overlap with each other from a competitive perspective (well, not yet!)  Smile

User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Quoting ZBA320 (Reply 3):
I think it's more of a Template of the Software company that created 'Ding' or 'Bing',

So, you're saying the template includes the FAQ about ATA airports? That wouldn't even apply in any other situation than with WN or ATA. So, my point is, the questions and the verbiage are not part of the template. There is most likely a template for the application, but not the FAQs. Bottom line...Ryanair copied WN's section word for word. See the link below.

http://www.southwest.com/ding/ding_faq.html

I wonder if there are copyright laws prohibiting anyone from using WN's verbiage...What pisses me off so much, is that it's so blatant.


User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5180 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 5):
I wonder if there are copyright laws prohibiting anyone from using WN's verbiage...What pisses me off so much, is that it's so blatant.

A standard copywrite law would cover it, using someone elses work and passing it off as your own.

However as southwest and ryanair are both airlines (and low cost ones at that), I very much doubt they have an in house software team working on applications like this. It will be made by a 3rd party software company, which has then sold the application on to WN/FR. Expect to see other airlines adopt the program shortly.

The website layout is probably a standard design made by the software company, which ryanair / southwest have adopted and customised slightly for their needs.

The real kicker is I had an idea for such a product 5 years ago, although not to be sold to airlines. If only I had done something with the idea...... story of my life  Sad



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User currently offlineDadoftyler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

Too funny.....my prediction: Skybus will come out with "RING!" and not even bother find-and-replacing Southwest's name from the FAQ.

And Nighthawk....I don't know about Ryanair, but DING! was indeed developed entirely in-house at Southwest.

DoT


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3185 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Quoting Dadoftyler (Reply 7):
I don't know about Ryanair, but DING! was indeed developed entirely in-house at Southwest.

Well, then maybe Ryanair just payed Southwest to use the program, and that copy & paste of the FAQ is included in the deal?


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2449 times:
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Well, then maybe Ryanair just payed Southwest to use the program, and that copy & paste of the FAQ is included in the deal?

Maybe, and maybe Ryanair were so happy with the deal they got on said template from Southwest they thought they would just leave the reference to ATA in the copy.


User currently offlineDw9115 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

Quoting ZBA320 (Reply 3):
I don't think it's down to Ryanair "Copying" Southwest.

Ryanair does admit that when O'Leary visited Southwest back in the 90's that what he saw was what he used to turn around the then failing Ryanair and to completely model it after Southwest Airlines so does this seem that far off.


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13520 posts, RR: 100
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2239 times:
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Quoting Dadoftyler (Reply 7):
my prediction: Skybus will come out with "RING!" and not even bother find-and-replacing Southwest's name from the FAQ.

 rotfl 


But I'm flying the airline with BLING!  silvermedal   twocents 

 rotfl 

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User currently offlineDadoftyler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

Quoting Joost (Reply 8):
Well, then maybe Ryanair just payed Southwest to use the program, and that copy & paste of the FAQ is included in the deal?

Joost...nope--it was a complete surprise. But for the time being, everyone I've talked to is looking at it as "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." I mean, you can say what you want about Ryanair's airport choice, onboard experience, or employee quality of work life--but with those financials, I think almost any other airline would have "margin envy."

DoT


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

Now we need a Bada to precede the bing. That would no doubt be for Alitalia.

 sarcastic  safe



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